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Methoxetamine Thread v2

Sam, if you have access to K there's really no point in MXE, it would get 1/10 from me if K is a 10/10, zero of the positive afterglow for me after either.

Mydrugbuddy, doing MXE after MPA left me fairly confused to the point I forgot who I was. Mates said I was like a blank canvas and they had to tell me everything about myself and how things worked before I finally went back to normal. It seems to be very confusing after stims. Probably not a good idea to do it after any stim, unlike K which is excellent after meph or MDMA.
 
Cheers for the reply. Yeah I'm sure you're right it probably wasnt the best mix. I only bought a small sample of mxe but still have enough left for 3 or 4 moderate doses, so next time i will go into with a clear head and not when my brain juices are already depleted and frazled. I suspect i will get more out of it that way.
 
It's still not my drug at all. Gives me a comedown almost, not like stims but I feel shit for a few days. Won't be doing the stuff again anyway put it that way. The only time it is alright is a few small lines at home alone watching movies. It's dire compared to ketamine.
 
Cheers for the reply. Yeah I'm sure you're right it probably wasnt the best mix. I only bought a small sample of mxe but still have enough left for 3 or 4 moderate doses, so next time i will go into with a clear head and not when my brain juices are already depleted and frazled. I suspect i will get more out of it that way.

I saw a post in the old methoxetamine thread suggesting that rather than taking a full dose all at once, with mxe you're better to take two or three medium sized doses 30-60 minutes apart and add more each hour as needed. This eases you into it and allows you to find your sweet spot much easier. Not sure about the rest of you, but for me Methoxetamine can be very confusing once you go past the sweetspot especially if it hits you all at once. I definitely find this way of dosing methoxetamine much more effective in terms of getting me where I want to be.
 
I saw a post in the old methoxetamine thread suggesting that rather than taking a full dose all at once, with mxe you're better to take two or three medium sized doses 30-60 minutes apart and add more each hour as needed. This eases you into it and allows you to find your sweet spot much easier. Not sure about the rest of you, but for me Methoxetamine can be very confusing once you go past the sweetspot especially if it hits you all at once. I definitely find this way of dosing methoxetamine much more effective in terms of getting me where I want to be.

Thanks for that but what do you mean by medium dose ? I gathered that the usual range was in the region of 10 mg - 100 mg, so for me with no tolerance a moderate/ approaching strong dose would be around 40 mg. Do you mean try taking doses of around 10-15 mg every hour or so ?
 
What ROA are you using? I would say take 20mg sublingual, then another 20mg at t+30 mins; if you're not feeling good by t+90 minutes then add another 10mg. much better for finding your sweetspot than dosing all at once and finding it's too much for you and not enjoying it. However I'm sure there's people who find it better to dose mxe all at once, so I guess it's really personal preference and finding what works for you.
 
What ROA are you using? I would say take 20mg sublingual, then another 20mg at t+30 mins; if you're not feeling good by t+90 minutes then add another 10mg. much better for finding your sweetspot than dosing all at once and finding it's too much for you and not enjoying it. However I'm sure there's people who find it better to dose mxe all at once, so I guess it's really personal preference and finding what works for you.

I have been snorting it. I will definately try that method next time and see if it works any better for me.
 
is there cross - Tolerance to K?

Just gonna try it on its own ..
See what it can do you know lol. Mainly after different sounds, to music.
 
I have been snorting it. I will definately try that method next time and see if it works any better for me.

Let us know how it goes, hope you get nicely fucked :D

Snorting has a faster onset and doesn't require holding sour tasting chemicals in your mouth, so it can be a good ROA depending on what you're after. Though it also doesn't seem to last as long, and sublingual seems to be more efficient - you can use your tongue to rub it into the membranes underneath it and make sure you get as much absorbed as possible, plus if you miss any it'll go the oral route anyway so it's win-win.
 
Sam, if you have access to K there's really no point in MXE, it would get 1/10 from me if K is a 10/10, zero of the positive afterglow for me after either.

Mydrugbuddy, doing MXE after MPA left me fairly confused to the point I forgot who I was. Mates said I was like a blank canvas and they had to tell me everything about myself and how things worked before I finally went back to normal. It seems to be very confusing after stims. Probably not a good idea to do it after any stim, unlike K which is excellent after meph or MDMA.

I have access to both K and MXE and I will often choose MXE over K. I get no afterglow from K but an amazing afterglow from MXE. K makes me isolated, MXE makes me hypersocial. They are different drugs with different effects, one is not a stand-in for the other.

Maybe you have special knowledge of Sam's requirements, but it looks like you're just projecting your own.
 
Appologies if it came across like that. I would imagine your in the minority with that though as I get the exact same as what you've just said only from K, not MXE. So do most of my friends. K is definately the one that is more stimulating for most people, MXE I only really enjoy alone with a film or I end up doing too much trying to get an effect that just isn't going to happen if I'm with mates. I don't mind it with 6-APB, meph or MDMA, I've done it at the tail end of all 3 of these with mates but on it's own it's just a party killer and everything gets too weird.

I actually find MXE more stimulating when trying to sleep. But K when I'm actually still going is far more lively and enjoyable. I also did say from me, ie IMO/IME. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I know which one I preffer.
 
Appologies if it came across like that. I would imagine your in the minority with that though as I get the exact same as what you've just said only from K, not MXE. So do most of my friends. K is definately the one that is more stimulating for most people, MXE I only really enjoy alone with a film or I end up doing too much trying to get an effect that just isn't going to happen if I'm with mates. I don't mind it with 6-APB, meph or MDMA, I've done it at the tail end of all 3 of these with mates but on it's own it's just a party killer and everything gets too weird.

The effect profile of both drugs is very dose dependent - more so with MXE in my experience, although I have to say I'm usually less careful about my K doses so I might be missing something. The "hypersocial" aspect of MXE is actually something that happens to me when I'm on my own, I feel completely connected to friends, family, everyone. It imbues me with love, I end up emailing, texting and phoning people to tell them I love them. K has filled me with love only once, and I was incapable of expressing it as I dissolved into the carpet. It was a weird kind of guilty egoistic love too.

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You're right that MXE can "kill" a party but that's because you have taken too much and too much K can "kill" a party just as effectively.

I also did say from me, ie IMO/IME. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I know which one I preffer.

Yeah I know you're entitled to your opinion and I actually edited my post as it was originally too harsh and I didn't want to rile you. I still don't want to rile you, but you know what you wrote, "if you have access to K there's really no point in MXE". It is dismissive. MXE can be incredible, it needs to be judged for what it is rather than in comparison to something that it is certainly not.

We are privileged with all kinds of subtleties and nuances available to us in different drugs. Let us be connoisseurs and enjoy those nuances with open minds! We are indeed entitled to our opinions and tastes as long as we are explicit that they are subjective. When we're sharing our experiences of a drug with someone who has yet to enjoy it, it's a bit unkind to tell them not to bother, they might miss out on something fantastic.

Maybe I take it too seriously! But I like taking it seriously.
 
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I have had one good experiance with MXE, when I did it alone watched films, probably did 250mg a night. With friends though it just feels too messy and confusing, maybe down to drinking alcohol with it. However the time I enjoyed it alone it seemed to do nothing until I had a cider then it was like a couch lock type effect where I was enjoying movies/music but didn't want to and actually physically couldn't move at one point!

You are right though I was too dismissive based upon my own opinions, when someone else might love it. So I'll actually appologise if I came across like that, reading it back I did. I just had a nasty experiance with it last week which somehow I still feel a bit down from. Nothing bad really happened I just did too much and it never got me to where I wanted to be, yet I was still feeling the unwanted effect of not being able to walk normally and feeling gangly til 4pm the next day.

It's a strange one, the first few times I ever tried K I didn't like it that much. Then when I was actually given the right dose I loved it. It is now my favorite drug if I had to pick one, and I now enjoy the hole whereas I used to aim for functional wonk. I can enjoy a couple of lines of MXE but only really if I'm on my own and I have to have a cider or something to potentiate it, some hash too almost.

Overall it's just not really for me, I end up looking for something that's just not there. Horses for courses I guess.
 
K is very dose variant.

Helps when it dont half get stuck up your nose too. Fucking broken nose.

Ill let yous know what i think of Mxe, being a big fan of Ketamine.
One of the best things i like on K is the music changes so much for me.. it sounds much deeper.

But at the end of the day as its been said many times, This is Methoxetamine and not ketamine they are different chemicals so i am not really going to be making a comparison but i will give an idea on how much i enjoy the substance.
 
With friends though it just feels too messy and confusing, maybe down to drinking alcohol with it.

Having to try and communicate with people after mxe and alcohol is like having to communicate with people after ket. In other words it's best enjoyed on it's own. Mxe isn't messy on it's own unless you take a very large amount
 
I find MXE much more confusing and weird. I can still comunicate/socialize after alot of ketamine and alcohol. MXE I make no sense and don't understand what's going on around me.
 
I find MXE much more confusing and weird. I can still comunicate/socialize after alot of ketamine and alcohol. MXE I make no sense and don't understand what's going on around me.

A couple weeks back I took a low dose before heading out with friends. Throughout the night I felt really buzzed, positive and talkative where I'm usually not so talkative. Had 3/4 beers throughout the night and they just added to the buzz. MXE can be enjoyed outside of the home!

This should go without saying when talking about RCs, but it often gets forgotten or ignored: Start small and work your way up til you find your comfort zone.

Yeah, if you take the average recreational dose (~50mg, which is about what they put in the capsules IIRC) and go out with friends you will find it uncomfortable and confusing. However if you take half that, you'll feel socially uninhibited and crave connection. Higher doses are for at home :)

That's my experience of MXE anyway.
 
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