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Reminds me of weed + ket, even as the effects are wearing off it can bring them back in full force. I like it, but only in small amounts as weed can make me paranoid anyway.
missimoo
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ive had a few strange effects lately i thought id voice to see if its happend to anyone else
firstly i guess ive been using it regularly for about 4 weeks but not heavily.
it seems to have lost lots of its magic. even high doses dont seem to do much. no dissociation, music sounds good though.
if i have a drink. i get brain dead.
what is weird, a few times after a stimulant ive taken a bump, 5-1omg, and it knocks me out. for about 5min. im not their. the feeling is hard to describe. if the matrix code was a feeling, and it was crispy, thats it. everything looks like the matrix code. everysound, and feeling of things like the douvet seems to crackle and be crispy. then. it just wears of suddenly and im back in the room 1oo% sober even from the stimulants.
weird?
firstly i guess ive been using it regularly for about 4 weeks but not heavily.
it seems to have lost lots of its magic. even high doses dont seem to do much. no dissociation, music sounds good though.
if i have a drink. i get brain dead.
what is weird, a few times after a stimulant ive taken a bump, 5-1omg, and it knocks me out. for about 5min. im not their. the feeling is hard to describe. if the matrix code was a feeling, and it was crispy, thats it. everything looks like the matrix code. everysound, and feeling of things like the douvet seems to crackle and be crispy. then. it just wears of suddenly and im back in the room 1oo% sober even from the stimulants.
weird?
Is there an intro guide to methoxetamine or a post somewhere that has a good summery of the info compiled so far?
I'm going to make the effort to read the whole thread but it is 26 pages long and full of waffle as well as useful info. Just working out sensible starting doses is going to take me some time.
I'm going to make the effort to read the whole thread but it is 26 pages long and full of waffle as well as useful info. Just working out sensible starting doses is going to take me some time.
Unless i'm missing it completely there are a bunch of trip reports which look useful but no main page with general info.
I get the impression people are dosing between 20mg and 50mg and I would probably try 20 or 30mg myself the first time if i was doing that.
I get the impression people are dosing between 20mg and 50mg and I would probably try 20 or 30mg myself the first time if i was doing that.
fastandbulbous
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A prelude to a game for all the family - methoxetamine hide & seek - you've hidden something while intoxicated and now must struggle hopelessly to find it!
Limpet_Chicken
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I noticed that wierd texture thing with the duvet also (hey, you aren't stalking me are you? thats my stalker's job, shes already dating me and taken both positions'
I find the hole lasts a long time, which can be a bit...errgh...if its taken to high doses. I find it insanely potent if its plugged. I need to get some syringes and micron filters though to try it IM.
I have LOADS of needles, sterile saline amps, acetone swabs, but the measuring syringes from the local pharmacies won't bloody fit!
I am rather partial, as far as MXE goes, to snorting small bumps until it gets where I want to be, leaves far more scope if I want to maintain a nice headspace, but still intellectually function, as generally, I am of a character that is always trying to learn something, if not doing something. I'm probably more used to MXE than I should be now, having re-ordered every single time I get paid, bar one, I actually think when not use for hole-ing that it has been, overall, positive addition to my life, not something I intend to rely on for anything, but the mood boost is welcome, it really has helped motivation and executive function...oddly, possibly better than the desoxypipradrol has, taking just the MXE, having not taken desoxy for some time resulted in a more easily directed enhancement of executive function, rather than the instant, industrial strength uber-autie mode desoxy brings on, on that, i have to take while I am already performing the task its intended to support, if I use more than a very small dose, otherwise it brings out the autistic hyperfocus in me, and woe betide if I happen to need to look something up on wikipedia.
Most of last night was spent postwhoring on the spesh forum I'm on, and boning up on quantum physics, glad my MXE arrived yesterday morning, as it doesn't force my attention span to become TOO much, seems natural. For a brain-warping arylcyclohexylamine that is a kissing cousin (damnable southerner republican american practise that is) to PCP.
I'm not actually sure what doses I am using, my scale is one of those that is sort of in the middle of really good, and really shit. Bought it not to weigh legal highs, but for weighing things used in actual research projects, that is to say, research chemicals as sigma-aldrich would likely define the term (that isn't sourcing, they are a well known gigantic company, that disdains the self educated, hobbyist or freelancer to the extent they wouldn't sell anybody here a hair from a lab-rat's tail, let alone drugs)
Said to be accurate to 10mg, max capacity of 50g, I need calibration weights big time, as I just don't allow myself to put enough trust into it to dose some things, it was originally bought real cheap, abou 15 quid I think at the time, can't remember where, was some years back, and for calculating amounts of things in R&D processes, rather than actually deploying the finished article for some end use its perfect.
But I need to get something accurate to 1mg, and they really aren't easily within my price range. Generally end up doing a volumetric dilution for anything sensitive, such as the desoxy, when i bought what I have, at the time a mere 100mg for evaluation, no way I could safely weigh out that stuff with a 10mg scale, without calibration weights, so it was weighed out to 100mg, could have been a little over, or a little under, some few hundred mikes will have been lost during transfers of the powder and pipetting of a solution in ethanol to titrate to what should be 1mg/ml, but in practise, I probably lost 500mcg-1mg simply from transferring from the weighing foil to the vial to prepare the solution, and from the blade I used the tip of to scrape and move amounts of powder, some ended up on ME.
No accurate figure as to how much by weight, but at least 2mg, more likely even up to the end range of 4-5mg sort of sprang off the tip of the dagger used when gently manipulated with the point of the very finest sewing needle I could find, and worked its way into the pad of my finger, and I believe, some must have been absorbed transdermally through one's pores, etc, carried in skin oils via prolonged contact.
2DPMP HCl seems to have some odd flowing properties as a powder. Didn't really see it coming, as I had no experience actually using desoxy in practise, only theoretical knowledge of its properties, I was pretty bloody stimulated for several days and nights, after having finished confirming the weight of the desoxy, not realising some had been inadvertently absorbed, began titration of the solution by bioassay starting at what should be roughly equal to 500
I posted that extra little snippet of info, because I see a fair few BLers talking
about how best to dose various goodies, but using some decidedly iffy dosing methods. Of course any dose is iffy of mephedrone or similar para-monosubstituted cathinones.
Good tip is to bag some aniracetam and choline supplements, great stuff for sweeping away the residual brain-mire.
'I find the hole lasts a long time, which can be a bit...errgh...if its taken to high doses. I find it insanely potent if its plugged. I need to get some syringes and micron filters though to try it IM.
I have LOADS of needles, sterile saline amps, acetone swabs, but the measuring syringes from the local pharmacies won't bloody fit!
I am rather partial, as far as MXE goes, to snorting small bumps until it gets where I want to be, leaves far more scope if I want to maintain a nice headspace, but still intellectually function, as generally, I am of a character that is always trying to learn something, if not doing something. I'm probably more used to MXE than I should be now, having re-ordered every single time I get paid, bar one, I actually think when not use for hole-ing that it has been, overall, positive addition to my life, not something I intend to rely on for anything, but the mood boost is welcome, it really has helped motivation and executive function...oddly, possibly better than the desoxypipradrol has, taking just the MXE, having not taken desoxy for some time resulted in a more easily directed enhancement of executive function, rather than the instant, industrial strength uber-autie mode desoxy brings on, on that, i have to take while I am already performing the task its intended to support, if I use more than a very small dose, otherwise it brings out the autistic hyperfocus in me, and woe betide if I happen to need to look something up on wikipedia.
Most of last night was spent postwhoring on the spesh forum I'm on, and boning up on quantum physics, glad my MXE arrived yesterday morning, as it doesn't force my attention span to become TOO much, seems natural. For a brain-warping arylcyclohexylamine that is a kissing cousin (damnable southerner republican american practise that is
) to PCP.I'm not actually sure what doses I am using, my scale is one of those that is sort of in the middle of really good, and really shit. Bought it not to weigh legal highs, but for weighing things used in actual research projects, that is to say, research chemicals as sigma-aldrich would likely define the term (that isn't sourcing, they are a well known gigantic company, that disdains the self educated, hobbyist or freelancer to the extent they wouldn't sell anybody here a hair from a lab-rat's tail, let alone drugs)
Said to be accurate to 10mg, max capacity of 50g, I need calibration weights big time, as I just don't allow myself to put enough trust into it to dose some things, it was originally bought real cheap, abou 15 quid I think at the time, can't remember where, was some years back, and for calculating amounts of things in R&D processes, rather than actually deploying the finished article for some end use its perfect.
But I need to get something accurate to 1mg, and they really aren't easily within my price range. Generally end up doing a volumetric dilution for anything sensitive, such as the desoxy, when i bought what I have, at the time a mere 100mg for evaluation, no way I could safely weigh out that stuff with a 10mg scale, without calibration weights, so it was weighed out to 100mg, could have been a little over, or a little under, some few hundred mikes will have been lost during transfers of the powder and pipetting of a solution in ethanol to titrate to what should be 1mg/ml, but in practise, I probably lost 500mcg-1mg simply from transferring from the weighing foil to the vial to prepare the solution, and from the blade I used the tip of to scrape and move amounts of powder, some ended up on ME.
No accurate figure as to how much by weight, but at least 2mg, more likely even up to the end range of 4-5mg sort of sprang off the tip of the dagger used when gently manipulated with the point of the very finest sewing needle I could find, and worked its way into the pad of my finger, and I believe, some must have been absorbed transdermally through one's pores, etc, carried in skin oils via prolonged contact.
2DPMP HCl seems to have some odd flowing properties as a powder. Didn't really see it coming, as I had no experience actually using desoxy in practise, only theoretical knowledge of its properties, I was pretty bloody stimulated for several days and nights, after having finished confirming the weight of the desoxy, not realising some had been inadvertently absorbed, began titration of the solution by bioassay starting at what should be roughly equal to 500
I posted that extra little snippet of info, because I see a fair few BLers talking
about how best to dose various goodies, but using some decidedly iffy dosing methods. Of course any dose is iffy of mephedrone or similar para-monosubstituted cathinones.
Good tip is to bag some aniracetam and choline supplements, great stuff for sweeping away the residual brain-mire.
Ok i just spent the last 4 hours slowly reading the last 27 pages of this thread. I feel mildly dissasociated right now and i haven't even tried the Methoxetamine yet!
I'll be going somewhere between 25 and 35mg i think depending on how i feel and how late it is after my dinner has gone down a bit.
I'm interested to hear people's opinion on insulfated vs sublingual for taking the stuff. There has been some suggestion that sublingual works much better, and other people have said insulfation works fine. I'm not trying it up my bum to start with - not that i'm fundamentally opposed to sticking it up my fundament, i just don't have the required supplies at the moment and can't be arsed getting them sorted.
Mugabe i especially liked your trip report post. The way you describe the feeling of knowing more than you should know and almost understanding the universe and having it slip away reminds me of things i've experienced whilst coming round from nitrous (which also involves that feeling of having bits of your mind come back into being / alignment with other bits that you describe so well) and which is also a dissociative.
You might think having bits of your mind disabled and slowly brought back into working order piece by piece would be an unpleasant experience, but when i experienced that on nitrous i found it an awesome experience that leaves you feeling great just existing afterwards in what feels like an afterglow from the experience.
I'll be going somewhere between 25 and 35mg i think depending on how i feel and how late it is after my dinner has gone down a bit.
I'm interested to hear people's opinion on insulfated vs sublingual for taking the stuff. There has been some suggestion that sublingual works much better, and other people have said insulfation works fine. I'm not trying it up my bum to start with - not that i'm fundamentally opposed to sticking it up my fundament, i just don't have the required supplies at the moment and can't be arsed getting them sorted.
Mugabe i especially liked your trip report post. The way you describe the feeling of knowing more than you should know and almost understanding the universe and having it slip away reminds me of things i've experienced whilst coming round from nitrous (which also involves that feeling of having bits of your mind come back into being / alignment with other bits that you describe so well) and which is also a dissociative.
You might think having bits of your mind disabled and slowly brought back into working order piece by piece would be an unpleasant experience, but when i experienced that on nitrous i found it an awesome experience that leaves you feeling great just existing afterwards in what feels like an afterglow from the experience.
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You really make that part of the experience sound a lot like the nitrous trip is for me, when done properly. I find that if I take 2 of those little canisters in quick succession i anesthetize myself completely and experience ego death, then recovery, in the space of about 3 to 5 mins afterwards. If i take 1 i just get a pleasant head rush. Being anesthetised isn't that much fun but unexpectedly (the first time anyway) having your very mind and being dropped back into place, slowly, piece at a time, is an incredibly unplifting experience that leaves you feeling glad to just exist.
With methoxetamine do you have to take larger doses to get this effect? I would have assumed that you'd need to approach a more dissociated state to experience the coming back together side of the trip and that lower doses of the stuff wouldn't have this effect even if they are pleasant.
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Yeah you need enough of a dose to catapult you through the significant barrier of context. I think the brain (quite reasonably) tries to keep a grasp of reality for as long as possible, and you can be quite far gone but still be firmly based in reality. Taking a large dose will shatter this barrier, and you may be properly holed for up to a couple of hours in my experience before returning and experiencing the aforementioned piecing back together of reality.
The hole is usually a very enjoyable experience in and of itself. It's just so different. Making sure the set and setting is perfect is key.
Beak
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i tried several times snorting bumps,got very poor results,was in fact about to give it away,when i tried sublingual @70-80mg=totally diff effects,took me off into a vortex of sound,trippyness.
almost like it was a diff drug altogether,although many people bump it,it never worked with me,
Can anyone tell me how methoxetamine affects appetite? Should it be taken on an empty stomach and if you are hungry before you take it will it kill your appetite like speed or mdma or will it make you hungrier like weed or alcohol?
If i remember right, ketamine doesn't affect hunger much at lower doses and you can eat on it. At higher doses it gets too confusing but doesn't specifically prevent you eating unless you are feeling sick.
If i remember right, ketamine doesn't affect hunger much at lower doses and you can eat on it. At higher doses it gets too confusing but doesn't specifically prevent you eating unless you are feeling sick.
Skyline_GTR
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For me it has no effect on appetite, quite the opposite of stimulants. Snorting gives a very smooth "silky" experience.. oral or sublingual the same dose and it hits a lot harder (and quicker) ime.
OK well last night i got the chance to try methoxetamine for the first time.
I took 35mg based on what i've read here, and on the fact i wanted to get a bit more than a threshold effect and really experience the character of the stuff but wanted to avoid getting too tripped out / holed. I took it sublingually at first but kind of fucked up and just had to swallow it after about a min rather than keeping it under my tongue longer as i meant to, so probably most of it ended up in my stomach.
Firstly i was surprised how quickly it seemed to kick in. Within 20 mins i was feeling it and after half an hour i was almost plateaued. For some reason i was expecting it to take longer to kick in than this.
Secondly it seems i'm quite sensitive to the stuff. As it turns out, for me, 35mg produced quite strong effects. I was not K holed but i didn't do much moving around and spent a good 20 mins lying on my back with my eyes closed at one point. I found the trip quite confusing in a way that seemed to remind me of ketamine. It definitely had a bit more of a positive headspace than K, but the confusion seemed to come in waves and i can see how if i'd panicked or maybe taken a bit more it could have been quite unpleasant.
As it was i had an interesting time of it. I will try it again but next time i might go for 25mg and see what that does to me. As i was coming back down i definitely got a sense of myself coming back together again and had some interesting thoughts about various topics. I can see that taking a higher dose could be very trippy indeed, but maybe taking less would allow me to enjoy the interesting but mostly 'normal reality based' chains of thought it seemed to encourage as i was coming down this time.
The main effects seemed to last about 3 hours with a good 2 hours of plateau. It's the next day and i don't feel bad or hungover despite being woken up by my noisy neighbours after only 5 hours sleep.
I took 35mg based on what i've read here, and on the fact i wanted to get a bit more than a threshold effect and really experience the character of the stuff but wanted to avoid getting too tripped out / holed. I took it sublingually at first but kind of fucked up and just had to swallow it after about a min rather than keeping it under my tongue longer as i meant to, so probably most of it ended up in my stomach.
Firstly i was surprised how quickly it seemed to kick in. Within 20 mins i was feeling it and after half an hour i was almost plateaued. For some reason i was expecting it to take longer to kick in than this.
Secondly it seems i'm quite sensitive to the stuff. As it turns out, for me, 35mg produced quite strong effects. I was not K holed but i didn't do much moving around and spent a good 20 mins lying on my back with my eyes closed at one point. I found the trip quite confusing in a way that seemed to remind me of ketamine. It definitely had a bit more of a positive headspace than K, but the confusion seemed to come in waves and i can see how if i'd panicked or maybe taken a bit more it could have been quite unpleasant.
As it was i had an interesting time of it. I will try it again but next time i might go for 25mg and see what that does to me. As i was coming back down i definitely got a sense of myself coming back together again and had some interesting thoughts about various topics. I can see that taking a higher dose could be very trippy indeed, but maybe taking less would allow me to enjoy the interesting but mostly 'normal reality based' chains of thought it seemed to encourage as i was coming down this time.
The main effects seemed to last about 3 hours with a good 2 hours of plateau. It's the next day and i don't feel bad or hungover despite being woken up by my noisy neighbours after only 5 hours sleep.
For me it definitely seems to be a substance with a sweet spot dose wise. At the moment I'm just having fun working out what that might be 
Tried it sublingual and snorted but really for me this is the one drug that tempted me to plug and I can't see me dosing any other way now..it's that good. Seriously, if you haven't tried it you really really owe it to yourself to give it a bash :D. To summarise...hits in less than 10 mins and gives a whole body hit as opposed to the predominantly heady buzz I got using other ROAs. Love it!!
Tried it sublingual and snorted but really for me this is the one drug that tempted me to plug and I can't see me dosing any other way now..it's that good. Seriously, if you haven't tried it you really really owe it to yourself to give it a bash :D. To summarise...hits in less than 10 mins and gives a whole body hit as opposed to the predominantly heady buzz I got using other ROAs. Love it!!GlasgowE
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Ive used methoxetamine a few times now and would agree with much of what you have said. I personally felt the confusion was unpleasant and tbh I havent used it since becasue of that. It was better as I started to gain some control over what was going on around me. Typical of an inexperienced user I suppose, as I had no expereince of using dissociatives prior to using methoxetamine.
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