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Methoxetamine - Tell Us More

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Yeah you have to watch dosing with this one. Once doses start creeping up, it's difficult to remember whether you have redosed, when you redosed or how much you dosed. Your mind plants false truths, and the problem is that you forget this. Even after reading advice like this, when you're under the influence you forget everything.

Agreed. I got angry with myself after realising I'd been repeatedly redosing and being less and less careful one day, so took a valium and re-associated myself ;)

Subsequent large doses (75mg+) had me awake when I didn't want to be with my brain feeling like it was fizzing like a shook-up can of pop. Odd sensation :D

Dehydrates you a lot this stuff too.
 
Is there any chance of this stuff making me do anything daft?? Like, if I took some the now would I be able to just lie in bed & piss about on the internet like I'm doing just now, or will I end up shouting something crazy or falling out of bed on a mission for something & waking everyone else up?

I don't really like taking anything trippy when my mum & step-dad are in. Too much chance of doing something stupid, getting caught & being completely unable to hide the fact that I'm tripping out my dial. Came home one morning still sparkled on 2c-i & my mum was already up making breakfast. When she asked what the fuck was wrong with me all I could do was laugh at her, burst in to absolute hysterics & stumble off to my bed lol

Well, I've managed to take this at relatively high doses (not quite M-hole) whilst lying next to my girlfriend in bed, without her knowing I had taken anything. I had the bright idea of thinking she would go to sleep straight away and I could lie back and enjoy myself - not the case. She decided to choose this night to stay awake and talk to me for a few hours, and when I told her I was really tired and wanted to go to sleep, she got all pissy and moody. I managed to hold up conversation for about an hour, whilst zoning in and out - one moment I was talking to her, the next I was 'becoming one with the duvet' (... the best way I can describe what was happening in my head...) - I guess she assumed I was falling in and out of sleep. I said a couple of weird and random things, but I say a LOT of random shit when I'm falling asleep, so this was nothing new. We talked about that christian retard being appointed to the ACMD, which got the word drugs into my head... So when I couldn't really understand what she was saying at one point, I thought it was a bright idea to say, "Are you on drugs? You sound like you're on drugs..." She looked confused and said "Why would you ask me that?" I had no idea why I would ask her that so I closed my eyes and pretended to be asleep (I was always told, if you're facing down a huge snarling bear, act like you're dead). I think she realised she wasn't going to get coherent conversation out of me at this point, and left me to 'sleep'. I woke her up again sometime later in the night falling over trying to get to the toilet... "What are you doing?!" ... "Err, trying to get to the toilet, we really need to tidy up in here!"

Considering she used to get mashed on every kind of drug in existence every single night, I'm surprised she doesn't know how to tell when other people are messed up. Anyway, I think you'd be surprised at your ability to have a coherent conversation when on certain substances. Although this isn't a great example of 'coherent conversation', I got away with it and as long as you don't do anything too stupid (like ask your parents if they're on drugs, because they sound like they're on drugs) then you should be alright.
 
Hahaha!

I am terrible at hiding the fact that I'm on drugs from people I know. So many times I've been sitting out the back of the pub, smoking a snout, drinking a pint, not feeling wasted at all & I'll say nothing more than "Alright man?" to one of my mates, they'll turn round & say straight away "What the fuck are you on? You're definitely out yer box!!". I think I look too happy when I'm on drugs lol.
 
I did 100mg last night, ended up staying awake the whole night, and then started cleaning my room during the come down, and only just finished... felt great the whole way through, this stuff can definitely cause a lot of stimulation and OCD effects.
 
snorted around 20mgs with 10 cans lager seemed very chilled out seems i felt a ket come up buzz but without the major dissosociation interesting compound though will be trying more in ther future lasted a few hours bout 2 too be exact
 
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Well, I've managed to take this at relatively high doses (not quite M-hole) whilst lying next to my girlfriend in bed, without her knowing I had taken anything. I had no idea why I would ask her that so I closed my eyes and pretended to be asleep (I was always told, if you're facing down a huge snarling bear, act like you're dead).
Haha excellent.

I don't think, at <50mg doses there would be any problem concealing the effects to an outsider.
 
Had next to no effect from 50mg but have a fairly large let tolerance 750mg min to get near a hole.
 
I also have a bit of a beast of a ket tolerance. 250mg of Mixmag over a night was great but could've done with more. IM is the way forward for those of us with tolerance - way more effective. I'd say around 50-100mg IM should be enough for almost anyone but superhigh tolerances maybe even a tad more. But start at around 50mg at most I'd say cos it's pretty damn potent compared to other ROA. 30mg IM is plenty for most folks with low-moderate tolerance.
 
I prefer 15 and 25mg doses over 50 mg doses. 100 mg doses over 75 mg doses. And once you start going past 100mg things do get hairy.
 
Explain please.

Looks like methoxetamine might possibly be the ADD drug from heaven. Maybe: it looks like it maybe has a higher ratio of dopamine reuptake inhibition to sedation compared to ket, so if you use it in *very* low doses I'm wondering whether it will work well as an ADD medication.

I posted something more here:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=552529

The trip reports here which cite experiences of being unable to sleep, agitation, dilated pupils (in the case of the chap who went to A&E after a stupid dose), perception changes and confusion seem to tie in rather neatly (possibly too neatly? More investigation is required) with the dopamine theory of psychosis (where excessive dopamine activation leads to hallucinations and perceptual "shifts", and in extreme cases events which might be termed psychotic breaks where the patient loses their grip on reality for a period).

Caveat reader though: I'm no doctor, not even an armchair doctor. Anything I think I know is only based on trusting other people's statements as fact, so don't go running off and doing anything crazy unless you're a proper, bona fide scientist kinda person :)
 
Hey I just ordered some of this while ordering a decent stash of both new items and things I've researched for years but never got around to trying. I looked it up here as I'd never heard of it and it was on the site where I was already ordering something else.

Is it more mainstream now? I've read all of this thread and am making my way through the PD thread as I like to do my research, so saw only one supplier had it in it's earlier days. Is is legit that it would be at other suppliers now? They are claiming it's new for them and they're a member of an apparent group who say they specialise in in keeping suppliers up to a standard, of course I could be completely niave about that. Their first batch I had of phenazepam was weak compared to my original non website suppliers last year but without contact to these anymore this is my only chance for a very useful medicine for me, it works but is weaker so I thought I would try them out on various other materials including MXE.

I apoligise if that sounds a little too much like vendor review, I haven't named names just wondering if it's likely to be in other places now. If allowed I can mention what I paid

Now apart from the serious stuff I'm really interested in MXE above all the other things I ordered. I'm expecially curious of the antidepressant afterglow as I often suffer servere depression as resulting symptom to anxiety at this time of year so am hoping it will be helpful even more than recreational,like phenazepam is to me. For the first time in years I am out of my supply of psychdelics which I convinced myself at the time were beneficial but landed me with a horrible realisation bump come daylight (I tend to dose at night) so I don't think they ever seriously helped as much as I wanted, I should have seen them more recreational/escapism so the pressure wasn't there.

I like ketamine so like the idea of another dissaciative, tho I know its been said this is NOT ketamine so won't go into it believing it is. Since I moved towns i no longer have the ability to choose it.

I'm also both interested and concerned about the opiate like affects. I had a codeine followed by poppy tea habit for a while so wouldnt want to trigger that but if MXE is better on its own and opiate is just on the side than I think I'll be alright, plus the thought of the taste of PT now just makes me gag so it'd be hard to go back there. The only time I've touched an opiate since I stopped was last summer when I had minor surgery, they gave me regular over the counter co-codomol and just taking it as described made me really dopey and constipated. It would never have done that if I was still on the poppies and really didn't make me want to dive back into them. I did ask for something stronger for the pain but they fobbed me off, probably a good thing.

Sorry this is long and fairly OTT I'm interested in peoples opinions of MXE who've had any history with opiates, no matter what the opiate. I used to also be a regualar user of kratom but not to the point of addiction, it was very strictly regulated in my routine and became a treat after a long weekend of work. I know people who have become addicted to that as well. I've ordered some for the first time in years hoping my opiate problems in the meantime won't have ruined it.

So wish me luck. my phenazepam is here anyway and made me sleep a whole day, I thought it was 6pm when I woke but was actually 6am so I think this batch is stronger. I didn't even remember getting into bed!
 
I hope this is posted in the right place. I want 2 know if there is likely to be any hazardous interaction between methoxetamine, quetiapine and mirtazapine. I am on quetiapine(seroquel) and mirtazapine (remeron). I found the info below on google but don't know how they relate to MXE ?? any ideas welcome

Mirtazapine is called a noradrenergic and specific serotonergic antidepressant (NaSSA). It works by blocking receptors called alpha-2 receptors that are found on nerve cells in the brain. This enhances the action of noradrenaline and serotonin in the brain.

Quetiapine is a dopamine, serotonin and adrenergic antagonist and a potent antihistamine with clinically negligible anticholinergic properties. Quetiapine binds strongly to serotonin receptors. Serial PET scans evaluating the D2 receptor occupancy of quetiapine have demonstrated that quetiapine very rapidly disassociates from the D2 receptor.[32] Theoretically, this allows for normal physiological surges of dopamine to elicit normal effects in areas such as the nigrostriatal and tuberoinfundibular pathways, thus minimizing the risk of side effects such as pseudo-parkinsonism as well as elevations in prolactin.[citation needed]
Quetiapine is partly metabolized to Norquetiapine which also acts as a potent noradrenaline reuptake inhibitor and muscarinic antagonist. Some of the antagonized receptors (serotonin, noradrenaline) are actually autoreceptors which blockade tends to increase release of neurotransmitters.
 
I hope this is posted in the right place. I want 2 know if there is likely to be any hazardous interaction between methoxetamine, quetiapine and mirtazapine. I am on quetiapine(seroquel) and mirtazapine (remeron).

I've taken a 25mg dose of methoxetamine while on mirtazapine and olanzapine, and apparently it had no adverse effects. I still fell asleep.

Stockley's drug interactions is a book worth getting a copy of tbh.
 
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