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Riklet said:
I think it's a bit shit seeing various people around the place jumping on the 'ketamine-replacement' bandwaggon with this stuff, kinda irresponsible as it's not really that similar and I would heed doombadger and others' words as to the powerfulness of this chemical.

It's one i've been meaning to try again actually, but even doing a riklet-dose it really hit me quite hard, was pretty wonky and euphoric zooming through my mind and life at only about 10mg sublingual (plus a bit snorted) or something. Seems most people need more than that, but unless you have any sort of proper ketamine tolerance, this drug seems to hit pretty hard in its effects and realisations; i'm still feeling some of the insight and effects from my 'trip' on it a few months ago really.

Not really a drug I would recommend taking out to snort in toilets at shit clubs for a few wonky laughs actually hah.
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EXACTLY.... Even though we all agree it is like comparing apples and oranges when we are talking highs/effects I think that there will be times when less informed or risk takers will be exposed to MXE in situations where there are no scales.....

I think MXE is a more powerful drug mg to mg . (If that is true( i think it is ) what do we think that difference is.?)
If people do end up snorting in club toilets and do a same size line as they would do if it was K , I THINK there is a possibility of people getting into trouble. Therefore in the interests of harm reduction perhaps it might be helpful to inform people how much stronger MXE is.[approximately)... if that is possible??
 
I think that alot of the people (lets face it KIDS!!) who do K will end up doing MXE (or MKET as they will probably call it.. )
AND (some of them ) will probably do it as a kind of Ket substitute or because they are starting to become tolerant to K .

I think if wraps of MXE start getting passed around parties at full strength there will be alot of casualties ......
 
I know alot of psychedelic snobs... (or any of us) might find this distasteful ,
but the fact is that MXE is legal and therefore is bound to be made very available and cheap very soon..... AND even though it is NOT Ketamine, people will do it in a similar fashion to K..... Therefore I think that unless we discuss and understand the comparable dosages then trial and error might be the only way some people will find out...
 
This goes great with weed, takes less of each and gets a fantastic confusing high, felt like there was very, very, very slight visuals, that slight little flick/define/loop was there faintly.
 
I've not tryed this stuff yet but am very interested in it. I think giving a comparative strength to k would be a good idea if any one with some experience of both could enlighten us it would be much appreciated.
 
I find this really difficult, it's like ketamine but it isn't like ketamine, it's kinda like comparing DXM > Ket, they have some similar effects (hence dissociative class) but they are pretty different. Personally I prefer k, but this is cheaper and longer. I find that this produces more maniac effects than ket and is less wobbly.
 
^ On the gramme it is way more expensive but seems to go a hell of a lot further for most so works out cheaper. Sort of.

smet said:
I've not tryed this stuff yet but am very interested in it. I think giving a comparative strength to k would be a good idea if any one with some experience of both could enlighten us it would be much appreciated.
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I don't think it's very easy to make a direct comparison for a few reasons. Tolerance aside, reports of "interesting" experience doses range from around 10-100mg (top end being pretty rare) and previous ketamine experience doesn't necessarily seem to translate directly either cos some longterm ket users are being floored by lowish Methox (Minx is shit and MXE sounds like a games console :p) doses, others seem to carry ket tolerance over. Most reports of hole-level doses are around 50-100mg or so. I have a bit of a ket tolerance and would get through at least 250mg of Otherket over a night or around 2g of ket itself. I do like to mix them though so that will likely make a bit of a difference to my own doses.
 
Shambles said:
^ On the gramme it is way more expensive but seems to go a hell of a lot further for most so works out cheaper. Sort of.



I don't think it's very easy to make a direct comparison for a few reasons. Tolerance aside, reports of "interesting" experience doses range from around 10-100mg (top end being pretty rare) and previous ketamine experience doesn't necessarily seem to translate directly either cos some longterm ket users are being floored by lowish Methox (Minx is shit and MXE sounds like a games console :p) doses, others seem to carry ket tolerance over. Most reports of hole-level doses are around 50-100mg or so. I have a bit of a ket tolerance and would get through at least 250mg of Otherket over a night or around 2g of ket itself. I do like to mix them though so that will likely make a bit of a difference to my own doses.
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2g of ket over a night is fairly insane even with tolerance! mind you tolerance seems to last forever last time i had some i hadn't done any for years and people were shocked at how much i could handle, maybe street ket got weaker but 50mg used to put me into a k-hole even with tolerance.
 
Ket tolerance lasts for bloody ever. Has gone down just a tad after taking a break for several months but only dropped a bit and is creeping back up again pretty sharpish. Last year I was IVing 500mg at a time to get even a slight tickle so is definitely going in the right direction. The joys of moderation. Or possibly the joys of economic viability.

Naggers said:
Anyone any idea if it'd be safe to mix MXE with SSRIs or SNRIs?
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I had no problem taking it on top of my usual tramadol (SNRI) dose. Doesn't mean it's safe but if it passes the tram test it's probably reasonably safe.
 
^ Exactly why I usually just get 2gs or so & have a little binge, nice K-Hole after some MDMA or 2c-i it goes heavenly.

I should have a sample of MXE & MPA Monday I'm thinking, 500mg of each so enough to get a decent idea of what they're like.

MXE sounds like a good one for after a heafty sesh when yo've slept, woke up & feeling a bit shit, couple of bumps & the positivity is back! :)
 
Shambles said:
I had no problem taking it on top of my usual tramadol (SNRI) dose. Doesn't mean it's safe but if it passes the tram test it's probably reasonably safe.
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Aye, I threw caution into the wind last night and gave it a go anyway, didn't come back to smack me in the face :D

Has anybody else had trouble sleeping after taking this stuff? I've been using small doses (5-10mg) when I need to stay awake, as 20-30 mins after ingestion (sub-lingual) I go from falling asleep in the PC chair to being wide awake and end up playing videogames all night. It's like something in the universe wants me to take it every night...
 
SpecialK_ said:
This goes great with weed, takes less of each and gets a fantastic confusing high, felt like there was very, very, very slight visuals, that slight little flick/define/loop was there faintly.
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That sounds promising. I was actually planning on doing this combo tonight, but it look like I'll heading to a mates for a smoke instead. Next weekend maybe...
 
Anybody else notice a rapid and pronounced increase in heart rate?
It seemed dose-independent, as far as I took it and appeared not to further increase past40-60mg (although it became pretty hard to tell after that.....:P

Tried it at about 100mg nasally and a small dose, 20mg or so up north, and damn......impressive.
 
Last time I had MXE I thought I was a character in a film I was watching (Carriers) it was a shit film but I thought at the time I was saving the world.

A couple of hours after the trip I felt really really shit. I put most of this down to tripping alone; which is not for me.
 
I felt pretty scattered afterwards after that high dose trip, but it quite took me by surprise at the time.

Day 1 I managed to quarter my painkiller dose after 2 successive doses of MXE during one night, and thus far, have taken only 1x30mg DHC+3x8mg co-codamol and feel almost fine.

I am aware it has probably some Mu opioid activity itself, but this is quite surprising, hopefully it will prove suitable for short-term use for a rapid detox, to be followed with aniracetam+choline to counteract possible cognitive deficit and induce rapid upregulation of NMDA receptors.
 
It is an NMDA receptor antagonist, which are used to reduce tolerance to other drugs, so that might play a part too.
 
Exactly the reason for trying this^

Anybody else catch that program on more4 last night, journey to the edge of the universe?
Now THAT made for some quite outstanding viewing courtesy of MXE=D
 
The more I read this thread the greater this chemical sounds. I hope it does not disappoint. I like the sound of it being more chilled than ketamine & warm with that positive feel. The posts from SHM & the one he quoted, doombadger & this from felix in particular make this stuff sound the bizniz

MXE is like bungee jumping off the Eiffel Tower in a clown's costume, but ketamine is like trying to fit wheels to a tomato.
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Haha =D

This sounds like it will be a good thing to have if your feeling a bit down after a weekend on stims. Couple bumps of MXE the day or night after & I'd bet that's you feeling positive/happy for the week. I find K is quite like that, even after a good dosing of MDMA once the groggyness of the next morning has settled & the grunge has been cleared out of your nose from the fat line of K at the end of the night your feeling much more happy than if you'd just done the MD in my experiance.
 
Very nice drug if u have no k tolerance but snorted half a g over the weeknd and never really got anywhere, at high doese left me confused. doesnt match k to me but is nicer if u dont like the k madness. still alot of research to do with the this drug and i would suggest not doing it more than once as u will nevr get the same efect again unless u wait another .week or 2
 
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