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Methoxetamine Discussion Thread

^ I have access to a GC/MS machine, I have given 100mg of my order to the gentleman who actually uses it for his work (he is a lab tech), the random "shit" you have been buying from OS is probably RANDOM shit.

The AUSSIE sold "shit" has tested as 2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone 99.8% purity with the remainder being Ascorbic acid (wtf lol). I am guessing whoever is selling this in Australia (making it here which they say they do) is selling real stuff, and it is actually probably better for people being so pure... I guess the pure "shit" is weaker than "shit" mixed with cutters etc...

I will ask him for a print out of the report when I see him Tuesday. I was impressed when he called me.
 
Thanks for getting the testing done, it's nice to know there are still some honest vendors out there.
Would be really interesting to know what is in the Synthacaine. Was planning on bio-assaying the syntha next week and it would be nice to know what it really is!
 
AS13 are you a shill for this guy or something? :p
If this stuff is pure I'd love to know what the hell I've been taking for the past months....!
 
Tiletamine and tiletamine + MXE mixes.
That's very possible.. but why would that seem stronger than MXE alone? IIRC tiletamine and MXE are roughly the same strength. Also whatever it is, it certainly produces the "warm glow" tiletamine reportedly lacks..
I didn't mean to sound rude in my last post.
 
AS13 are you a shill for this guy or something? :p
If this stuff is pure I'd love to know what the hell I've been taking for the past months....!

"shill"? PM the Mods, or Mods, confirm I am no fuckin "shill". I just speak truth be it bad or good. I know some mods here personally, so please, until you post a little more, relax with the insults. It's a quick way to lose respect on BL. I have been an active member for a LONG time (not that long, but long enough).

Gee, these new people joining up really give me the shits, I like the Old BL better. With the old crew (many now RIP).
 
Thanks for getting the testing done, it's nice to know there are still some honest vendors out there.
Would be really interesting to know what is in the Synthacaine. Was planning on bio-assaying the syntha next week and it would be nice to know what it really is!

This is a HR forum, and if I can do something to prove the worth of a product be it bad or good, I shall help. I don't want people dying from dodgy ass vendors that's for sure. :)
 
That's very possible.. but why would that seem stronger than MXE alone? IIRC tiletamine and MXE are roughly the same strength. Also whatever it is, it certainly produces the "warm glow" tiletamine reportedly lacks..
I didn't mean to sound rude in my last post.

Maybe from the mix of two dissociatives? I don't know really. I have some of the stuff that is apparently tiletamine or a mix.
Seen people say that chunky crystals that taste salty are tiletamine but I don't know how true that is
 
Here's the facts as far as I can divine them.

Tiletamine is not used in "pure" form like ketamine is, so "diverted tiletamine" is mostly or entirely zoletile (50mg/ml each of tiletamine and zolpidem, Telazol) which has a much different qualitative response than plain arylcyclohexylamines (I think). Zoletile interferes much less with serotonin SERT/5-HT2a and dopaminergic DAT/D2 receptors when compared to ketamine/xylazine. (ref:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12715241 - In layman's terms, this means TLE is much closer to a "pure dissociative" like mk-801 with less fun/magical/enlightening/euphoric activity.)


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1847186

Tiletamine is more potent than MK-801 or ketamine at inhibiting calcium channel activity. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1338108)

Doses are typically "comparable to ketamine" if you're using it for anesthetia, but Erowid experiences suggest it's 3-4x as potent as ketamine, and doses start at ~5mg IM, possibly as high as 20mg IM. (well, starting with 5mg of each til and zolazepam, or 0.1ml Telazol) I cannot find a good figure for the half life of the compound, but it's similar to MXE (~2x longer than K). Since abuse is mostly by veterinarians from diverted Telazol there are very few "clean" tiletamine experiences. I did see it being sold on the UK "research chemical" scene but I trust that shit about as far as I can throw it. The few Erowid experiences with tiletamine also suggest that it's not very pleasant at all.

A semi-related drug, TCM (thienyl cyclohexyl methylamine), was known to be sold as "MXE". Someone tested it via GC/MS and found that the compound was likely TCM in high purity. I think it's more likely that other freakish drugs like TCM are being sold as MXE or used to curt MXE, rather than tiletamine - if you're going so far as to make tiletamine you may well be making MXE.

Metabolism of the thienyl compounds to thiones (thioketones) is one route of elimination, oxidisation of the amine might be another, glucuronidation and hydroxylation like with ketamine is another possiblity.

re: MXE, It's my personal belief that MXE has very small or insignificant affinity for the mu-opioid receptor. I think it does have considerable activity at dopamine DAT and d2/d3 receptors due to the 3-methoxy addition. (evidence for this includes mood lifts, compulsive usage, euphoria/mania, strong stimulation in some.) Perhaps it is also 4' hydroxylated in vivo, like with PCP? Compared to tiletamine, MXE is definitely preferable to some extent simply because it is more pleasurable.

Borrowed from Adv DD, those doses may explain why it is more potent
 
"shill"? PM the Mods, or Mods, confirm I am no fuckin "shill". I just speak truth be it bad or good. I know some mods here personally, so please, until you post a little more, relax with the insults. It's a quick way to lose respect on BL. I have been an active member for a LONG time (not that long, but long enough).

Gee, these new people joining up really give me the shits, I like the Old BL better. With the old crew (many now RIP).

Buddy, I already added in a subsequent post that I didn't mean to be rude or insulting. That raspberry face was supposed to indicate that it was said jokingly. It's easy to mis-read sarcasm or gentle humour on the interwebs. Plus I was a little sus as you changed your story about the testing/cutting in the same day. I'm sorry I offended you. No need to insult me back. Sorry for joining after lurking for about 10 years!

Jakeperson, thanks for the info. Most interesting. Really highlights the risks of abusing substances that may not be what you think they are.
Ah well, I suppose the same could be said of my pill-head days!
 
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Buddy, I already added in a subsequent post that I didn't mean to be rude or insulting. That raspberry face was supposed to indicate that it was said jokingly. It's easy to mis-read sarcasm or gentle humour on the interwebs. Plus I was a little sus as you changed your story about the testing/cutting in the same day. I'm sorry I offended you. No need to insult me back. Sorry for joining after lurking for about 10 years!

Jakeperson, thanks for the info. Most interesting. Really highlights the risks of abusing substances that may not be what you think they are.
Ah well, I suppose the same could be said of my pill-head days!

Sorry wrote it before your replied. :( friends?
 
"shill"? PM the Mods, or Mods, confirm I am no fuckin "shill". I just speak truth be it bad or good. I know some mods here personally, so please, until you post a little more, relax with the insults. It's a quick way to lose respect on BL. I have been an active member for a LONG time (not that long, but long enough).

Gee, these new people joining up really give me the shits, I like the Old BL better. With the old crew (many now RIP).

The drama seems to be over for now, but I'll vouch for AS13. He is definitely no shill. :)
 
I agree with spikefairy never gave a S**T about online sights until this chem came along, awaiting my delivery at the moment. I believe the same vendor as AS13 LOL. Want to make sure i'm not getting to ripped off here and that I will recieve a quality product. Have not done MXE scince late last year (UK) will be going over again soon.... :)
 
MXE is seriously a very FUCKING good drug. I'm now at the worrying stage. I have way to much shitting here, I should only have ordered a G, I find mysef doin it evry night. Excus the spellin some fingers are not hitting the keys because the mXE wont let me arggghhh. its fuckin mad though, just dont flaunt it, lets noit have it bvanned like Kronic etc,,,
 
I agree with spikefairy never gave a S**T about online sights until this chem came along, awaiting my delivery at the moment. I believe the same vendor as AS13 LOL. Want to make sure i'm not getting to ripped off here and that I will recieve a quality product. Have not done MXE scince late last year (UK) will be going over again soon.... :)

If it's the same vendor its the bomb miss/mista its just the best shit on the market IMO i prefer it over street coke atm too werid but its true!
 
If it's the same person..Hope to get it this week so then I'll know for sure. Street coke is awful, the stuff is cut with some nasty s**t before it even leaves South America let alone all the hands it goes through. Get some nice coca leaf tea.... This MXE sounds like quality product.
 
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