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(Methiopropamine/20-25 mg) First time - Not a nice trip

Bromine

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Hi

I am new to Blulight , I used to post on champlegals before it was closed but I stopped once cathinones were controlled as there was nothing new to report.

I am healthy and was in a good frame of mind at the time of taking this substance.

I recieved a sample or Methiopropamine from a reputable supplier. I am fortunate enough to have access to a testing facility that could confirm that this was the correct substance.

Dose: 20 - 25mg

I weighed out a 50mg sample based on what I had previously read on internet forums. I made a very small line of this crystaline white powder which was about 1/2, so 25mg aprox. This line was about 6mm x 2mm aproximately.

2.30 pm snorted the line. As it was a small amount there was a little pain but not much.

2.45 pm began to feel the effects, nothing that I could not handle but definately noticed that my heart rate had increased.

3.00 pm very strong stimulant effects. I knew at this point that I had taken too much. I was not panicing at this point as I had some diazepam for this exact problem

3.30pm effects had peaked by this point. I could not sit still. Nothing could take my attention away from what I was feeling. Tried music, playing video games, a film. All I was doing was getting up to pace the room.

3.45pm went for a walk, chain smoked 3 cigarettes.

4.00pm, nothing seemed to make me feel ok. heart was pounding. No pupil dilation, which was interesing considering how I felt.

4.30pm effects not going away. I considered that the effects could last at least another coule of hours and I knew that I could not handle this anymore.

4.30pm took a large dose of diazepam to try and combat the effects (I appreciate that taking a drug to combat the effects of another is not a good idea but it was either that or hospital, and they often treat stimulant abuse in the same way)

5.00pm clamed down loads, laid in bed and fell asleep.

9.00pm woke up, ate some dinner (was pleased that could eat)

10.00pm went to bed and had a normal nights rest.


I did not enjoy this substance. It is a very potent stimulant. Even at 1/4 the dose (5mg) it would have just been like a strong cup of coffee, no pleasure what so ever (unless you don't want to be tired I suppose).

I do not know if anyone else would have the same experiance as me on this, maybe I am very sensitive to the effects. I have flushed the rest of it and will never ever touch it again.

Some people reading this may wish to respond negatively there are many things that I could / should have done differently, I urge you to avoid focusing on the negative and just take note of once persons experiance
 
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This stuff was dreadful. I read somewhere that it was a homework aid. I took some two days before an exam and it did help me revise quite a lot, but I didn't sleep for the following two nights before my exam. Was a shocker for the exam, arrived drenched in sweat looking like an utter twat.

But mixed with mdai it gives a well nice high, but its really short and again sleep is VERY difficult. I would stear clear of this one
 
I found a similar amount orally a long lasting stimulant within acceptable boundries.

Maybe oral is better, slower release.
 
I haven't tried orally, i would imagine it to be smoother and longer lasting. I plugged it and chased it. Found rectal was the best route (sadly as it rips my dignity to shreds lol). smoking it w/ bomb of 300mg mdai is the best way to go about it tho. gives a really good but short rush. honestly that combo is the best thing i have found in the rc scene since the meph days.
 
Really? Interesting! I dont support the combining of new, ill-researched chemicals except in very small amounts & in throughly controlled enviroments... But as mpa becomes more accepted (should it so become) I may consider this mix...

As for OP, I agree that 25mg could easilly be too much... While this stuff is new I'd advise doses half that size!
 
I don't support it either. I would try them both on their own before combining them. I think that it gives mdai exactly what it's missing: dopamine. You get an unbelievably clear headed high, and i was gobsmacked to say the least. very close to mephedrone high. do the mdai bomb wait 45 mins and then smoke a ~25mg mpa. definetly worth looking at.
 
I rarely if ever smoke chemicals as I'm asthmatic & I'm very wary except with herb... & even then, I'm hardly a heavy user...

I'd also halve that dose, should I use mpa, regardless of method of ingestion... New chems require utmost caution, especially in combination. I cant find the link, but I read of a Swedish death recently & I think it was a result of IVing mpa & mdai at the same time, albeit it in quite large doses... Be careful!
 
Thanks for the heads up. But I am not touching mpa again anyway. and mdai is too subtle on its own.

If your asthmatic I would recommend plugging it.

I read on another forum that this the best way to get 'the most bang for your buck'. and after trying it myself i agree. obviously smoking is a quicker onset though.

Great high, but waaay too many long lasting negative effects. benzos needed
 
I rarely if ever smoke chemicals as I'm asthmatic & I'm very wary except with herb... & even then, I'm hardly a heavy user...

I'd also halve that dose, should I use mpa, regardless of method of ingestion... New chems require utmost caution, especially in combination. I cant find the link, but I read of a Swedish death recently & I think it was a result of IVing mpa & mdai at the same time, albeit it in quite large doses... Be careful!

This death appears to have been as a result of IVing mxe & mdai... but my advice stands... Low doses, be careful!
 
I bought some the other day and have enjoyed the feeling when smoking it mainly, the pleasure comes and goes but i think that is the end to smoking it as i have just thrown up and it looks like there is some blood in the vomit, obviously smoking chemicals is bad for you so i think swallowing is now the way to go.
 
Interesting report. I haven't read too much on this one but it seems like it has a lot of negatives associated with it.

EDIT-I have also chanced the title seen on the main trip reports page to match the title show here.
 
Yeah, it's a tricky one this. Only really useful in combos, and you have to be careful to keep it under 100mg per night MAX. Otherwise it's no sleep for you!

I've got a shit load of work to do tonight so I've just railed 40mg - it's sobered me right up and I'm hammering through my work.

It's a moderately useful chem - but seriously people - KEEP THE DOSES SMALL!!!
 
I'm just waiting on the above mentioned combo to arrive.

Personally i'm a fan of methiopropamine, its the compound most like speed available on the rc market, it does have little (albeit infrequent) 'rushes', but they are there, it's nice in both social settings and labourious or monotonous work situations, or even in client dealing work situations, i've found it a great music enhancer and when its with weed its an ideal recreational drug. I think using it as a study aid is one of the most dumbest things I have heard of tho.

It has got its negatives too tho, proper fucks with your sleep cycle and can make you light headed for days, can mess your appetite around and during a hearty sesh can be quite vascoconstrictive, but again nothing MaryJ can't take care of, and nothing that speed wouldn't do, in large quantities.

Can anybody fill me in with the whats, wheres, hows and whys with the Mpa and Mdai combi? Please?

aaw go on...
 
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