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Methamphetamine In Nature?

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Howdy all.

I learnt something somewhat interesting today, according to wikipedia this particular plant native to western texas, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_berlandieri , contains a few chemicals once thought to be strictly only human invented drugs..

A. berlandieri contains a number of diverse alkaloids, the most plentiful of which are N-methylphenethylamine, tyramine, and phenethylamine. In a recent study, researchers identified thirty-one alkaloids in samples of plant foliage, including trace amounts of five amphetamines previously believed to be human inventions:[5] amphetamine, methamphetamine, N,N-dimethylamphetamine, p-hydroxyamphetamine and p-methoxyamphetamine. Other trace alkaloids include DMT (found in many related species), nicotine, and mescaline (found in many cacti but infrequently in other plants). The same group of researchers later reported finding most of the same alkaloids in A. rigidula, a related species also native to the Southwestern U.S. The findings, however, have never been confirmed or repeated, leading some researchers to believe the results were the result of cross-contamination.
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All though it's only tiny amounts i still think thats pretty nuts. Did many of you guys know this already or am i the only dumb ass?

I had always beleived meth didn't occur naturally at all.
 
I'd heard it was discovered somewhere in nature, but thanks for the link. It will win me some bets.
 
Its pretty cool, the tree has PMA as well. Heh maybe their is source of natural MDMA somewhere :D
 
Note that the findings have not been confirmed, and that the concentrations were tiny.

Acacias are impressive chemists aren't they?
 
i know that plant, its common everywhere from Texas to southern California grown as a common shrub around buildings and gardens.

however i doubt it has those drugs in significant amounts and would you want to take a mix of methamphetamine, PMA, DMT, mescaline, and other such powerful psychoactive drugs?

sounds like an active dose of the plant's extract would be deadly...
 
StaySedated said:
however i doubt it has those drugs in significant amounts and would you want to take a mix of methamphetamine, PMA, DMT, mescaline, and other such powerful psychoactive drugs?
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No, I don't think it's a usable amount of anything except maybe DMT. But except for the PMA hell yeah. I've done meth, 2c-e and dmt together. =D
 
fryingsquirrel said:
No, I don't think it's a usable amount of anything except maybe DMT. But except for the PMA hell yeah. I've done meth, 2c-e and dmt together. =D
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i've done LSD, Adderall, PCP, and MDA together and can say it was anything but fun. :!

but if mixing meth, 2C-E, and DMT was somehow remotely pleasurable to you then all i can say is you're a space explorer who can serously handle the outer limits... 8o

however about the PMA thing i don't think PMA is safe to mix with the other drugs in the plant due to it's dangerous MAOI and serotonin releasing effects. especially if theres methamphetamine and other strong stimulants the combonation with PMA sounds lethal.
 
TheAzo said:
Note that the findings have not been confirmed, and that the concentrations were tiny.

Acacias are impressive chemists aren't they?
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Very good point, well done for doing what most dont actually do, read the opening thread in its entirety...

As stated in the opening post these findings havn't been confirmed or repeated since, leaving the possibility of cross contamination... So until this experience is repeated again we don't really know if it was some stupid cross contamination fuck up or if nature really does make these chemicals we always thought didn't occur in nature.

Also no idea why people are already talking about extracting the amps lol, obviously the amounts of the chemicals detected are tiny, it's the fact that five chemicals we thought didn't occur in nature, actually do. Thats the amazing part...providing this wasn't some mistake by stupid scientists who cant work with clean equipment. 8)
 
StaySedated said:
i've done LSD, Adderall, PCP, and MDA together and can say it was anything but fun. :!

but if mixing meth, 2C-E, and DMT was somehow remotely pleasurable to you then all i can say is you're a space explorer who can serously handle the outer limits... 8o

however about the PMA thing i don't think PMA is safe to mix with the other drugs in the plant due to it's dangerous MAOI and serotonin releasing effects. especially if theres methamphetamine and other strong stimulants the combonation with PMA sounds lethal.
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PMA doesn't have to be mixed with other psychoactive drugs to be lethal. Its lethal on its own. As a substitute for MDMA in pills, it killed a decent amount of people, not knowing it was in there.
 
As they say, there is nothing new under the sun. We are just making things on accident most of the time that we have never seen in nature before, primarily because we werent looking for it until we made it. We are doing nothing scientifically that nature has not already been doing.
 
^^^^^
uhhhhhh sorry but splitting atoms is what the sun is,

nuclear fusion is acually more powerful than fission(splitting)!
and thats what all stars are
also black holes bend space time!!!!!!!!!!
we have barely scratched the surface of what there is to know about nature and the universe
 
dildonian jr. said:
^^^^^
uhhhhhh sorry but splitting atoms is what the sun is,

nuclear fusion is acually more powerful than fission(splitting)!
and thats what all stars are
also black holes bend space time!!!!!!!!!!
we have barely scratched the surface of what there is to know about nature and the universe
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Fusion isn't splitting atoms. It is, as the name implies, fusing them together. That (not fission) powers the sun.
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
PMA doesn't have to be mixed with other psychoactive drugs to be lethal. Its lethal on its own. As a substitute for MDMA in pills, it killed a decent amount of people, not knowing it was in there.
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True. I've wondered why anyone would market methedrone (not to be confused with mephedrone, methadone, or methedrine8o), which is the beta ketone analog of PMA. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
 
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