Stimulants Methamphetamine, experience report and information gathering:

[Mjäll]

26th May, 2022:

Slight increase in use frequency.

Dosed Monday at 25 mg.

Now Thursday, dosing again to a target of 35 mg.

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Primary reason is I feel I'm cognitively stagnating.

There's information I'm trying to process and am just basically "stuck".

So I'm sat about literally unable to do anything but count time, my ultimate deduction is to simply use a cognitive assist (again, analogous to MDMA assisted emotional freedom therapy/psychotherapy).

Again as acutely aware as I am of this site having many members whose meth addiction began under similar terms.

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Simple reality is for myself, I can't function without some kind of cognitive aid.

Formerly the optimal cognitive aid that provided me with outstanding cognitive insights and a decent level of functionality was a combination of mianserin/atomoxetine/sertraline, all at 2/3'rds their maximum dose (60/80/150 mg).

But I've extracted all benefit from that approach and their use no longer offers any kind of benefit.

Having experimented with every other prescription possibility and the primary areas of "off-licence" cognitive enhancers (LSD, ketamine, amphetamine, ritalin, various strains of cannabis), methamphetamine simply seems like the key that turns the lock and allows the cognitive insight "sluice gates" to open.

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i.e. instates a levels of functionality where I can process information on a comfortable level.

I would assume it's the thoughts that are stuck rather than your whole brain.

New thoughts may be a solution. Meth probably isn't.

Do you get out for walks etc? Getting much needed stimuli. Thoughts can often have a sense of grandiose self-sufficiency, but without lived experience they couldn't exist in the first place. Thoughts thrive ultimately on experience and connection, not stimulant drugs.

Psychedelics and dissociatives are drugs that actually can affect and help reprogram your thoughts and emotions in a mature, long-term way.

I think you may need to let go of some thoughts, at least temporarily. When one sets out to figure out everything, it puts a lot of pressure on one's emotions and this has a detrimental effect on cognition too.

No condescension intended so feel free to disregard this if you feel that way.

 

[Mjäll]

Fuck it.

Freaking out, panic attacks, over thinking things, paranoia, possibly psychosis?

I flushed everything, all meth, all stimulants.

They're wonderful to provide a "break" and feel better but the after affects, I just couldn't take it.

- Extremely high re-dose impulse also, chasing first-dose euphoria.

- I didn't trust myself with them around so everything went down the drain.

Terrified I might give myself chronic psychosis.


Whilst using, I think sometimes I make great cognitive break through's, but in retrospect those insights would have happened anyways (like they do before using meth, or after meth effects have worn off), just co-incidence they happened whilst using meth .

Oh, i read this just now after my reply.

I think it was a good decision to flush the meth and strengthen your belief in yourself.

 

[Snafu in the Void]

Fuck it.

Freaking out, panic attacks, over thinking things, paranoia, possibly psychosis?

I flushed everything, all meth, all stimulants.

They're wonderful to provide a "break" and feel better but the after affects, I just couldn't take it.

- Extremely high re-dose impulse also, chasing first-dose euphoria.

- I didn't trust myself with them around so everything went down the drain.

Terrified I might give myself chronic psychosis.


Whilst using, I think sometimes I make great cognitive break through's, but in retrospect those insights would have happened anyways (like they do before using meth, or after meth effects have worn off), just co-incidence they happened whilst using meth .

good for you man

meth can be really nasty like that, personally I have zero control over my use and will use it until I breakthrough into psychosis... every single time

I just avoid it now for that reason.

 

[Antiprosynthesis]

Since i Am a regular amp user so i have a question regarding this: you say you had to use huge doses and redose so often and to me this seems so unlike amps to me that either i Have really no clue about what IT means to not have to redose often and that i have no idea what a small dose is OR that you have really weird amps cause i experience amps to be about really small doses with hardly Any redosing, im quite interested in what i Am going to find out by asking you what amp you used and which doses you needed you consider huge and how often you had to redose and with which drug you felt better and what doses you needed from that drug and how often you redosed?

 

[JohnBoy2000]

^^ Using amphetamine sulphate I had to redose about every 2 hours.

Up to 120 mg before I started to get chest pains.

A lot of peripheral side effects, physical/body side effects.


Meth I don't know, don't ever want to touch that drug again in my life.

Pretty sure both make you age quicker, hair shedding + greying.

I was trying to use them as a "break" like, "Miller Time!!", but with amphetamines.

Retrospect = meth is lethal.
Amphetamine sulphate is just nasty.

That's my experience with them.

Now I'm dosing seroquel twice a day until this psychosis/anxiety passes and Lawd willing I'll never touch amphetamine again.

 

[arrall]

This seems to be more of a discussion on your experience using amphetamines recreationally than a trip report, so I'm going to move it to our 'Other Drugs' subforum.
TR -> OD

 

[arrall]

This was written by a sales team member. Others claim magnesium oxide is significantly inferior to glycinate/citrate formulations.

I believe that magnesium oxide has been shown to have virtually no effect on blood magnesium levels. It essentially functions solely as a laxative.
Magnesium glycinate (Check the bottle to make sure it is pure magnesium glycinate, many formulations are cut with oxide) is your best bet here.

Freaking out, panic attacks, over thinking things, paranoia, possibly psychosis?

I flushed everything, all meth, all stimulants.

They're wonderful to provide a "break" and feel better but the after affects, I just couldn't take it.

- Extremely high re-dose impulse also, chasing first-dose euphoria.

- I didn't trust myself with them around so everything went down the drain.

Terrified I might give myself chronic psychosis.

Amphetamine use can get out of control VERY quickly. Glad that you made the decision to quit before things got bad enough to have significant lasting negative effects.
Once you get to the point of amphetamine psychosis, it becomes much easier to end up back there in the future.

 

[Eligiu]

I believe that magnesium oxide has been shown to have virtually no effect on blood magnesium levels. It essentially functions solely as a laxative.
Magnesium glycinate (Check the bottle to make sure it is pure magnesium glycinate, many formulations are cut with oxide) is your best bet here.


Amphetamine use can get out of control VERY quickly. Glad that you made the decision to quit before things got bad enough to have significant lasting negative effects.
Once you get to the point of amphetamine psychosis, it becomes much easier to end up back there in the future.

An addiction medicine specialist told me once that if you go into amphetamine induced psychosis once, then it'll happen every time you use it afterwards.

In my experience, this has been the case for me if I use for any longer than two days. I automatically go in to psychosis without fail like clockwork and it happens every single time.

It never used to happen until once it did, and from then on it happened every single time.

I think there is merit in that mindset that amphetamine psychosis is difficult to avoid once you've experienced it.

 

[JohnBoy2000]

An addiction medicine specialist told me once that if you go into amphetamine induced psychosis once, then it'll happen every time you use it afterwards.

In my experience, this has been the case for me if I use for any longer than two days. I automatically go in to psychosis without fail like clockwork and it happens every single time.

It never used to happen until once it did, and from then on it happened every single time.

I think there is merit in that mindset that amphetamine psychosis is difficult to avoid once you've experienced it.

No explanation but that's the feeling I got.

Like if I ever touch this horrid shit again my mind will default into psychosis.