Methamphetamine Discussion Thread

[michael6120]

Biscuit, I smoked some as well as IV'ing and after a few recrystallisations it did have a yellowy-brownish tinge to it. I also left a small stained amount of brown residue in the pipe which doesn't happen with the good stuff I had been getting up until this point in time.

From your descriptions your experiences sound very, very similar to mine!

Same thing happened to me in old sydney town.

 

[CartoonHead]

IVing or smoking michael6120? Did you find the effects to be as we described them also? The overall high lacking that dopamine flood?

 

[spacejunk]

while it is against bluelight guidelines to speculate on the identity of mystery substances, i must ask - have any of you tried any of the fluoroamphetamine or fluoromethamphetamines circulating in the RC market?
i have heard that effects are similar - but don't quite measure up to those of meth. just a query - it could well be racemic meth, a new cut or whatever....but with the absurd cost of methamphetamine in australia nowadays, it seems (like 'ecstasy' for the past few years) too easy for dodgy dealers to pass RCs off as the genuine product. worrying, especially if it more or less tests and looks the goods.
be curious to know if anyone reporting this 'mystery substance' has experienced those particular amphetamine analogue RCs as a comparison?

 

[AmiMia]

I think its time for a bathroom break

 

[Christ!]

while it is against bluelight guidelines to speculate on the identity of mystery substances, i must ask - have any of you tried any of the fluoroamphetamine or fluoromethamphetamines circulating in the RC market?
i have heard that effects are similar - but don't quite measure up to those of meth. just a query - it could well be racemic meth, a new cut or whatever....but with the absurd cost of methamphetamine in australia nowadays, it seems (like 'ecstasy' for the past few years) too easy for dodgy dealers to pass RCs off as the genuine product. worrying, especially if it more or less tests and looks the goods.
be curious to know if anyone reporting this 'mystery substance' has experienced those particular amphetamine analogue RCs as a comparison?

Haven't tried those fluro's. Can anyone else comment?

I think it being racemic meth with low % of d-meth is a good explanation, maybe combined with something else. Marquis went to orange pretty quickly (not as quick as usual but the testing kit is getting old)

Some other effects I didn't mention before were headaches and headspins when getting up quickly. I've normally got low BP so the headspins aren't all that uncommon for me, but don't usually happen on stims.

Does l-meth test up the same as d-meth? Like if a large amount of l-meth were produced could they avoid detection with some kinds of tests used for 'usual' illegal methamphetamine? I don't think so but thought I'd ask.

All we can do is guess really. Been tempted to get some more but logical brain won this time.

 

[CartoonHead]

headaches and headspins

Didn't get a headache (but I never get headaches sober or intoxicated, except for one time I got "cotton fever" and a couple of alcohol incidents) but experienced intense headspins post-use of the aforementioned "meth" - probably for up to 3 days afterwards - whenever I got up, sat down, moved quickly or put my head at an angle. Had me worried for a while as I've never experienced that after methamphetamine but everything seems to be back to normal now.

Interesting as well - I'm certain this stuff didn't initiate nearly as large a dopamine release as it should, initially this opinion was based upon the severely lacking rush when injected and the minimal euphoria following injection but I also noticed this stuff didn't have the slightly depressing/emotionally thrashed comedown-y period afterwards. I just went to sleep and had the weird after effects I have already discussed.

Whilst it was nice to not feel drained of dopamine afterwards I would have happily endure any comedown type feelings for the sake of a decent high!! ;-)

 

[Biscuit]

I understood the fluoro substituted amphetamines stunk to high heaven and I strongly suspect would be racemic due to the likely starting materials. I doubt it is this.

whenever I got up, sat down, moved quickly or put my head at an angle. Had me worried for a while as I've never experienced that after methamphetamine but everything seems to be back to normal now.

This is classic after effects of issues relating to blood pressure. There is no doubt the PNS effects/after effects of the substance are pronounced and given all of the other similarities with the "good" stuff and the orange reaction surely points to L-meth as being the "cut".

 

[poledriver]

Police warning over shake and bake drug making

Police say a method of illegal drug manufacturing recently detected in Perth causes a highly volatile chemical reaction and could cause serious injury.

One man has already been taken to hospital after an incident which police will allege is consistent with an explosion from the so-called 'one-pot shake and bake' method of manufacturing methamphetamine.

He attended Fremantle Hospital with chemical burns and an eye injury.

A search of his home found items consistent with the method of drug manufacture and evidence of an explosion.

The Department for Child Protection was called after it was determined two children, aged four and six, lived at the property.

Police say the one-pot shake and bake method involves shaking a number of chemicals in a container and is highly likely to end with an explosion.

Police say while there is evidence the process has been used in the past, they have uncovered several confirmed instances of it in Western Australia in the last three weeks.

Peel detectives uncovered items consistent shake and bake items in a car in late November while investigating a separate matter.

Authorities were again notified after police learnt two teenagers, aged 13 and 14, were residing at a property in Perth's northern suburbs where shake and bake items were discovered.

Police have since charged three men and one woman with attempting to manufacture prohibited drugs, and two others with possessing prohibited drugs.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-14/police-warning-over-one-pot-shake-and-bake-drug-making/4428234

 

[cassandragemini]

Out of curiosity has anyone here shot a mix of meth and k before? I have both in my stash at the mo and though I imagine it to be confusing and bizarre at best and trust me I don't plan to do it I have found myself wondering what it would be like.. To put an HR spin on it are there anything inherently dangerous about the mix? Cardio problems perhaps? The word that springs to mind when I think of a 'methel-k' is 'discombobulating'. I bet it feels real discombobulating. And I like that word, it feels satisfying to say.

I had my first proper shot of meth yesterday afternoon and for the first time i saw why and how people can become so obsessed with the drug, the rush and pure unadulerated dopamine release is out of this world. I have to say I found it more instantly pleasurable than heroin though the two are different (but also share similarities when I comes to the rush, or so it kind of felt). When you're really sick and hanging for a shot of h and the gear is good and it hits you just right it's an amazing feeling, partially because of the physical withdrawal symptoms but with meth there is none of that to worry about, it's purely (well almost) psychological and I can see how that psychological rush and addiction could become overwhelmingly powerful. I'm going to be careful that's for sure.

 

[Christ!]

This is classic after effects of issues relating to blood pressure. There is no doubt the PNS effects/after effects of the substance are pronounced and given all of the other similarities with the "good" stuff and the orange reaction surely points to L-meth as being the "cut".

Yeah that's what I think.

There's no way to easily test for l-meth or high percentage of l-meth I take it? Wouldn't think there'd be.

Something odd is I spoke to a very regular user who smokes his stuff and got positive feedback. His circle are all smokers and seem to be enjoying it. These guys are daily users, so you'd think they'd know their stuff. Some stuff I thought was good (I'm non-tolerant) they didn't rate very highly.

Something to keep in mind, if it is l-meth...then I'd guess there's a much higher chance of there being toxic leftovers from production if not done properly.

 

[Jakeperson]

Great report CartoonHead. I'm surprised at how many similar differences you hit on that I've had.



I don't IV but smoking is similar to what you mention.

Last three times I've had 1-mystery substance 2-meth 3 -mystery substance

I find I get intense focus but it's more like a sterile wired trance, rather than the blissed out mind glow from proper meth.

I'm non-tolerant to stims so for me it hasn't been bad experiences - just disappointing. I end up way more focused on single things than with the usual...usually I can jump around from one thing to the next, or just sit there and feel good doing nothing. I think the best effect from the ?mystery?substance? is the basic stim properties of keeping you awake and giving you some energy - which is a positive to some and not to others.

Have kept amounts used pretty low - 1- 2 points. Didn't want any more and it kept me up for long enough.

Smoked like decent methamp, tasted a bit funny. Looked good...dry, not much smell. Compared to the good stuff I had which were wet tiny crystals.

Sounds like 2-FA/4-FA etc

 

[Jakeperson]

I understood the fluoro substituted amphetamines stunk to high heaven and I strongly suspect would be racemic due to the likely starting materials. I doubt it is this.

Re-crystallization and De-contamination was quite easy.

 

[tentram]

I find I get intense focus but it's more like a sterile wired trance, rather than the blissed out mind glow from proper meth.

Sounds like 2-FA/4-FA etc

that's how i'd describe 4-fa. there was a little glow in the beginning but only momentarily then it was just wired for a couple dull hours. i was dosing 170mg at a time, upping it to 220mg.

the rush from an 85mg shot was somewhat reminiscent of the initial confusion that sets in upon IVing mdma before the overwhelming euphoria. however, again, it died off within a few minutes and i was simply wired. not a great deal of anything really.

 

[michael6120]

IVing or smoking michael6120? Did you find the effects to be as we described them also? The overall high lacking that dopamine flood?

hey mate, yep lacking dopamine for sure... and to your other question, smoking . . when i can find it these days. cheers

 

[OND43X]

A pic of some 'ice' bought in west syd this week...

Larger bag has 1 full and smaller a half

 

[Ashley]

^^ That looks like nice piss bro. Was it decent?

A.

 

[Oxyuranus]

I've started to dabble in Meth in the last few months. I swore I'd never try it, but I have been using crappy paste once - twice a month.

A couple of friends got a gram of shardies for yesterday/ today. It was such a cleaner high with less body stimulation. Broke out in sweat as soon as I exhaled the first breath. (That's never happened to me) I loved it. I can understand why people get so addicted to it now.

I have a Christmas lunch with my drug-aware (ex coppers and druggie son) parents so just had to get some sleep so I look half decent. 6 hours after my last toke, I was able to comfortably drift off to sleep with the aid of a few easy to access chemicals. (I have been abusing downers for a long time, so the doses mentioned below might not be suitable for everyone.

I took approx 2 grams pregabaln (my daily dose is 900mg) the effects of which I felt within ten minu tes, it peacefully bought me down quite a bit, especially after adding 20mg Diaz to the mix. Everything got a bit tripy with sime mild visual disturbances. A quick vape and I passed out on my couch without even thinking about I.

Woke up at sunrise a bit groggy, but after my first cigarette and a coffee (not recommended) the meth is still quite noticeable although I'm a bit scattered.

 

[michael6120]

OND, Looks nice man!!

 

[Jakeperson]

That big crystal in the top of the gram baggie looks nice man.

 

[Biscuit]

OND43X: can you give us an update as to how this was? I came across, yet again, some very impressive looking crystals in Perth, which this time looks more striated and thus exciting, but still turned out to be underwhelming and strange.