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Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 3.0

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LSDMDMA&12837165 said:
No doubt man my fault on the insinuation with the beer.
Cause ive seen on i think tjat ice rush show and in a few of the articles on ice in ditm people talking about how addictive it is when theyre only using "3 points a week ive seen in an article and in a post in ausDD
like damn you guys should see what crack cocaine does to people if you guys think smoking a little meth is so addictive
Cause they seem to think its physically addictive like heroin and its not. Its only in heavy users that the exhaustion amd wotnot upon quittimg would be severe enough to need to be in a detox.
Rehabs in thr us, at least for crack/cocaine dont do shit for you. No detox cause its not needef for stims.
like id put money on the mean amount used by methheads in the us is a lot higher than it is in aus
australia needs a mexico
basically
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It can still be pretty addictive. It's enough to keep you awake and that's where the crazy comes from - you also develop all the bad habits so rehab is needed for some people.

3 points a week would be mostly mental addiction. Don't underestimate or belittle other peoples struggles though dude.

Yeah the mean amount used by people addicted to meth would be higher in the US, no doubt. We DO seem to escape a lot of the epic craziness you hear about over there - and we don't have the 'faces of meth' thing to the same degree. It can still be highly disruptive to a persons life though, and there's plenty of people who use large amounts even though it's not the norm.

I'm glad we don't have a mexico. Large amounts of pure, cheap meth is damaging to society (add in guns and you've got a place I'd hesitate to live - even though I'm a citizen of aus/US)

Also - I believe we've got a far larger proportion of the population that have used/use meth.
 
Dont get it twisted dude, us aussies have a huge taste for drugs and im sure if prices permit, ppl would be slammin g after g all day.

its a good thing the meth isnt cheap as chips as im sure ppl would be bustin down my door in tge middle of the night for money, mugging my mum/sis on the street, con artists runnin riot.

This place would become more of a cowboy country than it already is. Mexico can go chill on the ass end of ur country, im cool with us floatin easy and free
 
So your position is that its better for society to not have cheap meth (true) and you guys are cool chillin in ya own area of the world and wouldnt want a drug superhighway along the southern border and extending to ports, airports, etc
fair enough. I get why.
But i wonder wot would happen if crack cocaine was to suddenly appear in melbourne or sydney
and i only like felt it was appropriate to minimize the struggle of some people who use low doses of meth because i spent 3 years on heroin so ive experienced addiction and everything personally fro 3 years till i quit
 
kinda right&wrong - there's plenty of Aussies that go hard with meth like USA. - these persons are not paying for it, or committing crime to pay for it. Most meth users don't actually commit more than one crime at a time :O, so average users don't use a lot because of price. Though ppl that have it for free, do it crazy like USA just on a smaller scale. Every year they keep making record busts.. it gets bigger and bigger. it only means consumption is going up and criminals are meeting demand

crack did make the rounds in Australia (still does, just lower?) either way it didn't blow up like meth has. maybe quality wasn't the same, and meth is more profitable for gangs that import and they can make it. they have busted a few super-labs in aussie
 
Sadly i dont trust fellow ppl in aussie drug culture to be able to keep their use in tact. I know what you mean, mate. As a drug user, yes i wish all drugs round my way were at a competitive and low price. if prices deflated tomorrow to a gram dirt cheap, geez id see a lot of ppl be sucked up like a vaccum.

But low prices of drugs such as meth and h mean that the big boys are infiltrating our free society that hasnt yet truly become the gun toting ghetto. Id rather have it as a hidden market, secretly doing its thing under the guise of 1st world, suberban living. At least we can feel a sense of satisfaction getting high in the 'lucky' country. We got it pretty good here, ppl just dont realise.
 
LSDMDMA&12838838 said:
So your position is that its better for society to not have cheap meth (true) and you guys are cool chillin in ya own area of the world and wouldnt want a drug superhighway along the southern border and extending to ports, airports, etc
fair enough. I get why.
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Only speaking for myself. Many would dream of such a thing.

We've got a much larger proportion of our population using drugs but usually not as pure/more expensive.
 
I've been plugging t now for over two years - not much really, only two point total a month, in typically two sessions during the month. I find that for about a week after each time I use, I don't want to use t again, but then slowly I start to think more and more about using again, when I'm sorta half asleep and then off and on all day, until finally its in my mind to use nearly all the time, I do use again and the pattern repeats.

I'm wondering, how do you know when you are addicted to it, because even when I think I never want to use it again because of the tiredness and loss of energy I get after using, I always end up being absolutely determined and excited to use it again, and do so?
 
I think it's more that we buy by the point because a point or two is all that's generally needed for a weekend if you're not a tolerant user. I know plenty of everyday users who consume half a gram + a day and get it far cheaper due to contacts/just being around it so often. I just feel as though now that I have no tolerance that a point is A LOT and smoking a full point keeps me awake all night.
 
Got onto the best stuff ever a few months back. I use rarely these days, i've also come to realise if you have good quality Meth, chasing on foil is infinitely more effective (theres no wastage, very efficient temperature control) and fun but is considerably more difficult than a pipe. Highly recommended.

Anyway this stuff had me lit after 30mg smoked, i'm an IV user generally. No residue left over lasting well 1 in a half minutes or 10 or so runs.

I'm fortunate enough to forget the intense sexual fantasy that is Meth, days after the experience. I find it hard to imagine and so i experience no cravings anymore. Although my use is infrequent the pschosis and side effects are worse everytime.

After my latest MDMA experience i came to realise what i had truely become when using regularly, i hope now i have the strength to rid myself of Meth for good. Take care everyone.
 
Pwooooaaaaarrr!! After close to 5 months off tha shit, caught up with an old mate and got on. Was random as fuck, but figured fuck it stop bein a lil bitch, ol dirty.

while it was good fun fukin around blowin clouds n twirling the pipe n getin that sweet chemical rush like old times. lve seemed to have forgotten how the fuck i used to spend the post-euphoria buzzed whacked out stage. I just feel scrambled n bored and theres only so much crackhead drama i can put up with listening to these days. Fuk u realize how worked up regular users get over petty shit with others.

ahh well all a bit of fun. Chucked on some porn n violated myself till i came ghosts.. Its pretty killa havin fuk all tollerance too! Few tokes of the meth bong and im flyin like a ma fuka!
 
good on you man. I used today for the first time in a while (only a point) and I feel less and less inclined towards taking it every time I have it. This time was good quality and yet the experience itself was sub-par. Far better things than meth out there.
 
So we were discussing my being like wtf at the idea of d-amp maintenance for methheads in australia right
i am not a methhead, i havent used it that much right, but i like to shoot about a quarter gram when i do use it right
well i just snorted 100mg of dextroamphetamine sulphate, and i dont feel anything. Its off my prescription so its not like i got beat.
so id hazard a guess that a real methhead would need to be scripted a shitload of d-amp
cause for reals, that hasnt even made my heart race you dig? 10 dexedrine xr 10s broken down/crushed to defeat the xr and snorted over the cpurse of like 25 minutes because 10 10s is a little more than a gram of powder (yes, ive weighed it out before)
 
I guess thats why you can get high off it and i cant.
ive had a prescription for it for 4-5 years now.
 
LSDMDMA&12861411 said:
I guess thats why you can get high off it and i cant.
ive had a prescription for it for 4-5 years now.
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Yeah tolerance is a bitch and it's a cross tolerance too, so it'll mean someone on dex will probably need more meth.


There's not wide a program of dex for methamp users there's just been some trials done afaik. The idea is to just give people coming off meth a little boost, since their dopamine receptors are so down-regulated it can be tough to get up and do anything. Don't think it's meant for long term maintenance like suboxone/methadone for opiate users. Who knows how effective it'll be though, might only help in certain cases.
 
Could be a good thing just for the couple of weeks -month coming off and easing into life without twirling or shootin it. Thats half the addiction.

I still have the odd dream seein that bubble vape up and twirlin the fattest clouds. Frightening as its been ages since I last used.

Was thinkin of gettin a bag and takin bumps instead of gettin d amp cause the comedowns are more brutal than meth.

Anyone had experience with snorting? Never tried.
 
does anyone know of anything else that can be smoked in a meth pipe? i just enjoy doing drugs by smoking them but i've heard of other people wasting stuff they've bought by trying to smoke it with no luck so i'm not gonna try unless i know it will work. but then it's also an issue of never knowing if you got what you're being told you got. guess i should just stick to snorting or swallowing other stuff, just curious to know any way.
 
Yee man. They cut it with chop like msm or whatever so they can feed their own addiction/make more money. Doesnt matter if u smoke it, rack it or eat it, its still gonna be impure and not give u ur desired high (or not as strong depending on how much its been stepped on)..

Meth addicts can be some of the slyest manipulative 2 faced people youll ever meet. End of the day the ones who have let the drugs get to them and became its bitch will do or say a lot of extreme things to stay high. It helps to have a bit of street smarts about ya if u choose to dabble, but the better option is to just stop and get out while ya can.
 
Unsolved Mystery said:
. guess i should just stick to snorting or swallowing other stuff, just curious to know any way.
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Absolutely. I had way more fun the times I snorted or took meth orally, and that's the only way I'll do it these days. With smoking I end up using way more and have less fun for some reason.
 
Christ! said:
Absolutely. I had way more fun the times I snorted or took meth orally, and that's the only way I'll do it these days. With smoking I end up using way more and have less fun for some reason.
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Yeah i agree. if you can keep it ingestion and insufflation you will get the most out of amphetamine for the longest and you will also have the most fun, those administration methods are also more productive when it comes to the characteristics of the high. Spend to much time on the pipe it just becomes a game of too tolerant to the gear and a boring one with the textbook properties we used to enjoy becoming a rare feeling. I have never iv'd a substance before as i don't want to resort to the method thats most addictive as i believe resorting to this method will take the fun out of the drug and then it just becomes a game of dependancy and when using the most strong method (iv) overtime it will all come crashing and burning to the end.

Less is more i say and im a sucker for the pipe but if we could all just revert back to the easier routes of admin time to time we may appreciate the drug a little more rather then it just been the next fix, thats why i only like to use it once a fortnight. Never gets boring then :)

Peace <3
 
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