Cheddar_Bob_313
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No worries bro, it's all good. I'm from Massachusetts, born and raised.Sorry cheddar Bob I was going to give some advice about the doctors here
No worries bro, it's all good. I'm from Massachusetts, born and raised.Sorry cheddar Bob I was going to give some advice about the doctors here
I forgot about the character Cheddar Bob, I should have remembered, that picture was from the scene when he pulled his piece and proceeded to shoot himself. LolNo worries bro, it's all good. I'm from Massachusetts, born and raised.
Thanks for sharing your story, I can never imagine being dope sick well being locked up - that's some worst nightmare type shit. Thankfully I've never been in trouble with the law and don't plan to.Well, I have gone through both of them and both times while in jail and I can say for sure that the suboxone withdrawal was about 100 times easier than the methadone withdrawal to get through and manage. I got locked up in Jan 2010 while I was on 16mg of subs. My doctor was actually really fucking cool and gave me 1 more script to take while in jail in the hopes that I would get out and be able to continue my treatment. Unfortunately, I ended up getting revoked from parole and had to go back to prison. When I ran out of my subs in the jail, I experienced some minor symptoms of just a feeling of general ick that lasted probably 10-14 days, but nothing close to what I went through when I got arrested for possession of cocaine and heroin in 2020. At the time I was in the methadone clinic in Sheboygan, Wisconsin and was on 290mg of methadone (I'm a fast metabolizer). The bitch ass judge ordered a $1000 cash bail, even though I was already in treatment, so I was locked up for 36 days before I could finally convince the court to lower my bail. What I went through during those 36 days is something I would not wish on my worst enemy. Days 1-5 onset of withdrawal symptoms, severe anxiety, restlessness, sweating, yawning, runny nose, sneezing, no appetite and insomnia. Days 5-15 were the worst for sure, severe anxiety and panic actually, severe restlessness, feeling like I had a demon in my chest that was trying to burst forth like an alien from some fucking horror movie, severe everything, sweating, cold, sneezing, gagging, vomiting, diarrhea, and insomnia. The 3 worse things during this time was the anxiety/panic, restlessness and insomnia. I would literally thrash around the bed unable to get comfortable, the guards thought I was having a seizure several times. And of course, by this time I hadn't slept in over a week, so I started hallucinating and losing my grip on reality, my pupils were as big as flying saucers. Days 15-36, after a solid 2 weeks the symptoms started to lessen a little every day, but certainly did not go away. Still the worst part of this time for me was the constant anxiety and total inability to sleep. I literally begged the jail nurse to help me and the best they could do was give me .1 of clonidine every 6 hours after making me get out of bed to take my blood pressure. Bitches, they could have given me gabapentin, hydroxyzine, tizanidine, trazodone, Seroquel, and several others that probably would have made it at least somewhat manageable/tolerable. When I got out after 36 days I still was in withdrawal, still felt like shit. In a stroke of luck, I had some subs stashed away at home and took 4mg the second I got home and 45 minutes later I felt fucking great, it was over. I had literally walked through hell and been thrashed by devils on my way through but somehow made it through. I prayed a lot and begged God to help me or take my life. Like I said I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Yeah man it is some worst nightmare type shit. Looking back on it I'm not even sure how I actually got through that. I can tell you for sure that if I had had the means to kill myself in there I very likely would have. I do remember praying a lot and begging God to help me or take my life. Getting arrested and going to jail is basically the likely outcome of using drugs, at least using the drugs I was crack/heroin/fentanyl. When you use for long enough you eventually start doing stupid shit to get money that will land you in jail eventually and nobody ever plans to get arrested but it is the inevitable consequence of prolonged hard drug use.Thanks for sharing your story, I can never imagine being dope sick well being locked up - that's some worst nightmare type shit. Thankfully I've never been in trouble with the law and don't plan to.
My friend got caught with a Glock / "ghost gun", before it came time to turn himself in to do his sentence he tapered himself off suboxone.. That sucks in its own right, but I can only imagine how he felt the day he turned himself in, knowing your facing years and won't be able to see your kids grow up.
I know how hard methadone withdrawal is but what about suboxone? I've heard from multiple people that suboxone withdrawal is relatively minor. How true is that? I also imagine it depends on dosage.
I jumped off Methadone at 20mgs and got really sick. The worst of it was constant nausea (certain smells, sounds, or movement made me want to vomit). Also lack of appetite, insomnia, diarrhea, and anxiety.
My dad jumped off methadone cold turkey @ 160mgs - he was in hell for a month, I honestly don't know how he didn't end up in the hospital.Hi. I have recently stopped methadone after 6 years OLD and wish I knew since I jumped off 7 days ago I have slightly gotten better but I still can't stop restless body and legs and have had less that 4 hours sleep in a week. Does anyone know how long to expect this or does it differ from person to person. Also I was on 140 and tapered down to ten before stopping. Thanks. Any suggestions appreciated. Stu
My dad jumped off methadone cold turkey @ 160mgs - he was in hell for a month, I honestly don't know how he didn't end up in the hospital.
I jumped off methadone @ 20 mgs right before Thanksgiving, went about a week and a half sick.. I got tired of the nausea, anxiety, and diarrhea so I resorted to suboxone and been on half a strip per day (4mgs) since.
For RLS Baclofen helped me, or benzodiazepines would most likely help too.
I was on 140 and tapered down to ten before stopping. Thanks. Any suggestions appreciated. I come to the conclusion that the resources on getting people on methadone are a lot more than getting off. They authority's want us on the liquid handcuffs' and on no opiate lists. You cant holiday, associating with friends that still use is near impossible, and the N/A is a church recruitment ploy. It's lonely when your whole life you have been getting high and you stop. I was an addict for 42 years. Even remember sniffing glue and solvent and 8 years old. I didnt know why. It's something I inherited from family. I've had no kids because of it. I would never suicide. I'm going to die soon enough now I have cirrhosis. I just wish society could realise that when you have communicated with a certain type of personality your whole life that I have nothing in common with straight folk. I find them boring and judgemental. Especially the one who help you for a weekly wage. Just give me what I need to get better, all junkies do not reject spirituality. William Burroughs was a priest. There is nothing in any religious text to condemn drugs and opium was alive and kicking when they were apparently written. The Qur'an does mention it in more modern versions though. It's hard to believe a higher being would make so many temptations that lead to drug outcome. If it's a test they can go get f______. Drugs and religion have a long history. Look it up. I know I've never felt closer to bliss than when I'm wasted and I grew up catholic in Belfast. Decriminalisation is the only humane way. Unfortunately fire, water and religion have no mercy.My dad jumped off methadone cold turkey @ 160mgs - he was in hell for a month, I honestly don't know how he didn't end up in the hospital.
I jumped off methadone @ 20 mgs right before Thanksgiving, went about a week and a half sick.. I got tired of the nausea, anxiety, and diarrhea so I resorted to suboxone and been on half a strip per day (4mgs) since.
For RLS Baclofen helped me, or benzodiazepines would most likely help too.
Me personally I feel like the Methadone clinics are nothing but poison pushers, they care more about the money than they do the patient. They also lie and push propaganda. They never ask if you want to lower your dose, but they'll damn sure encourage you to raise it. They also fuck with people, I didn't have one dirty urine my entire year on the clinic but they wouldn't give me my take homes for stupid reasons. The nurses at the dosing windows also play favorites. One time I forgot my keys for my lock box and they bounced me from getting a holiday take home that day. A few months later I seen that same nurse give someone a take home who didn't even have a lock box because they left it at home. Needless to say I was PISSED! They should apply the rules fairly to everyone but they don't.I was on 140 and tapered down to ten before stopping. Thanks. Any suggestions appreciated. I come to the conclusion that the resources on getting people on methadone are a lot more than getting off. They authority's want us on the liquid handcuffs' and on no opiate lists. You cant holiday, associating with friends that still use is near impossible, and the N/A is a church recruitment ploy. It's lonely when your whole life you have been getting high and you stop. I was an addict for 42 years. Even remember sniffing glue and solvent and 8 years old. I didnt know why. It's something I inherited from family. I've had no kids because of it. I would never suicide. I'm going to die soon enough now I have cirrhosis. I just wish society could realise that when you have communicated with a certain type of personality your whole life that I have nothing in common with straight folk. I find them boring and judgemental. Especially the one who help you for a weekly wage. Just give me what I need to get better, all junkies do not reject spirituality. William Burroughs was a priest. There is nothing in any religious text to condemn drugs and opium was alive and kicking when they were apparently written. The Qur'an does mention it in more modern versions though. It's hard to believe a higher being would make so many temptations that lead to drug outcome. If it's a test they can go get f______. Drugs and religion have a long history. Look it up. I know I've never felt closer to bliss than when I'm wasted and I grew up catholic in Belfast. Decriminalisation is the only humane way. Unfortunately fire, water and religion have no mercy.
Me personally I feel like the Methadone clinics are nothing but poison pushers, they care more about the money than they do the patient. They also lie and push propaganda. They never ask if you want to lower your dose, but they'll damn sure encourage you to raise it. They also fuck with people, I didn't have one dirty urine my entire year on the clinic but they wouldn't give me my take homes for stupid reasons. The nurses at the dosing windows also play favorites. One time I forgot my keys for my lock box and they bounced me from getting a holiday take home that day. A few months later I seen that same nurse give someone a take home who didn't even have a lock box because they left it at home. Needless to say I was PISSED! They should apply the rules fairly to everyone but they don't.
They also try to make you feel that they are entitled to make decisions in your life, never apparently make mistakes and make no effort to accommodate your life cos I'm not supposed to bloody have one. No wonder people drop the done and turn to metho.Me personally I feel like the Methadone clinics are nothing but poison pushers, they care more about the money than they do the patient. They also lie and push propaganda. They never ask if you want to lower your dose, but they'll damn sure encourage you to raise it. They also fuck with people, I didn't have one dirty urine my entire year on the clinic but they wouldn't give me my take homes for stupid reasons. The nurses at the dosing windows also play favorites. One time I forgot my keys for my lock box and they bounced me from getting a holiday take home that day. A few months later I seen that same nurse give someone a take home who didn't even have a lock box because they left it at home. Needless to say I was PISSED! They should apply the rules fairly to everyone but they don't.
Well it's not unusual buddy, as long as you can get your hands on fent and dilauded.Even though I've been on suboxone for.. idk, like 8 years now, I don't have much direct w.d experience, most times was jumping from bupe to fent or dilaudid, then eventually having to detox for a few days before going back to bupe. But there was once, I remember it took so long for the w/d to kick in that I thought I had beat it, only for it to finally hit on the 5th or 6th day, in the middle of the day, and I had to leave work... and ended up going back. Even still, I don't think methadone is any better, being that its a full agonist and all.
I’ve experienced both. From what I remember, suboxone withdrawal wasn’t too bad. However, I jumped off methadone at 30mg and was sick for about a month. It’s pretty bad, but at that point I was just so over being dependent on anything that it didn’t even bother me to have to tough it out like thatI know how hard methadone withdrawal is but what about suboxone? I've heard from multiple people that suboxone withdrawal is relatively minor. How true is that? I also imagine it depends on dosage.
I jumped off Methadone at 20mgs and got really sick. The worst of it was constant nausea (certain smells, sounds, or movement made me want to vomit). Also lack of appetite, insomnia, diarrhea, and anxiety.