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methadone , tattoos and peircings

leigh12

leigh12

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just wondering how strong the painkilling effects of methadone are , if any ??

just wondering if itd be worth it dosing b4 goin under the needle

( tattoo/peircing needle that is)

i kno i shld just quit bitchin on but if i can be relaxed gettin ink'd for 4-5+ hrs
id prefer that than the annoying pain , plus i dont wana bitch out halfway thru coz it feels like my skins about to burst

getting one half sleave and a 1/4 sleave on opposite forearm
 
It has very decent analgesia but should never be used for it, especially by people seeking psycohactive benefits (getting high). The reason is its half life which averages 36 hours. Basically, when you dose, analgesia is great for 8 to 10 hours, almost as long as an extended release morphine grade opiate/opioid. However, it is NOT safe to re-dose until you reach the 24 hour mark so you run into about a 14 hour window of no analgesia.

Medical providers circumvent this often enough by prescribing very low dosage tablets, like Dolophine, less than 5 mg per. Still, the half life doesn't change and when used pallatively, for chronic pain for example, the plateu effect kicks in (Optimum Dosing in OST/Opioid Sub.Therapy) making it even more lethal. It should only be used for detox or maintenance.

Oral is not at all used for analgesia and rightly so. Assuming you are talking about oral methadone (syrup), you should not be using it for either analgesia or psychoactivity (because of that nastily long half life which can get you killed rather easily).

IF instead you have the tablets or the injection ampoules, repose the question and I will answer (if asked rapidly enough).
 
yeh nah i wasnt gona take extra dose or anythn like that

and ye i neva dose within 22-24 hrs , im doin it all properly by the books , not lookn to get high , jus lookn not to want to , tho i cant deny it gives me somewhat of smile on my face
 
There is a reason why they have the policy to never tattoo on someone under the influence, as the blood gets thinned out and it causes excess bleeding and complications for the artist and the tattoo itself. Not even nurofen + is advisable.

Just go in there and suck it up dude. If you really want it then the pain is worth it.

Feel the pain!!!! Yeah! =D

I love tatts, and the pain doesn't particually bother me but i am aware there are people that are more sensitive to it. But it generally is over before you know it, and you are left feeling pretty proud of yourself :D
 
The pain just means it's worthwhile, don't get it if you're not willing to accept the pain that goes along with it.
 
drugfukkdrockstar said:
There is a reason why they have the policy to never tattoo on someone under the influence, as the blood gets thinned out and it causes excess bleeding and complications for the artist and the tattoo itself. Not even nurofen + is advisable.

Just go in there and suck it up dude. If you really want it then the pain is worth it.

Feel the pain!!!! Yeah! =D

I love tatts, and the pain doesn't particually bother me but i am aware there are people that are more sensitive to it. But it generally is over before you know it, and you are left feeling pretty proud of yourself :D
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I can't find much on opioids and blood thinning/anticoagulant properties. Ethanol has anticoagulant properties, but I don't think opioids do or not to the same level.
 
^^ Agreed. I don't think too many people out there are going into tatoo parlours on opiates. I think the sign is more for people who have been drinking and are suddenly inspired to get a tattoo without really thinking about it.

As far as blood thinning properties of opiates go, I can almost guarantee you it'll be safe (unless the ink has unusual properties I have no idea about). If you can get opiates post-op, after being cut open, then you can survive a little skin damage and not bleed out.

Anyway, hope you enjoy your tattoo whether you get it sober or not :)
 
Mr Blonde said:
I can't find much on opioids and blood thinning/anticoagulant properties. Ethanol has anticoagulant properties, but I don't think opioids do or not to the same level.
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Hhhmmm yeh come to think of it I'm pretty sure it's aspirin you have to be wary of.... perhaps tattoo artists just say "no pain killers" to cover all bases? Ibuprofen is an anti-inflammatory but I don't know about N+ etc thinning blood?
 
Possibly. While getting my big tatt on my back done i chatted about this exact thing with the dude doing it and he told me that people are not to be under any sort of pain killer. So yeah, that's where i get my theory from. I would look into it thoroughly before actually doing it. Even ask the tattooist directly. But from what i have been told by a tattooist is that the only pain killer you can use is a skin numbing cream which apparently doesn't even work that great.

Meh - i stick by my guns though that sucking it up and just going all out pain and all is worth it. It's all part of the experience.
 
belarki said:
Hhhmmm yeh come to think of it I'm pretty sure it's aspirin you have to be wary of.... perhaps tattoo artists just say "no pain killers" to cover all bases? Ibuprofen is an anti-inflammatory but I don't know about N+ etc thinning blood?
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it's (ibuprofen) nowhere near efficient as say aspirin in regards to anti-coagulation. aspirin used daily is effective in reducing blood clots, but if you're taking ibuprofen there's basically no effect at all.

if i were to take anything before getting a tattoo it would probably be a light dose benzo just to chill with the pain. i watched my mate under the influence of 30mg temazepam get inked and nothing bad came of it.
 
Belarki: I think it's just aspirin that has major anticoagulant/antiplatelet properties. I found this:

http://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab003746.html

Which looks at studies that compared non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs with aspirin for anticoagulant properties and found inconclusive results and decided that since aspirin works well enough it would be unethical to carry out further studies using NSAIDS instead.

So as far as I'm aware aspirin is the only NSAID that is known for it's anticoagulant properties, I guess they are just covering all bases in terms of liability.
 
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