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Opioids methadone taper 90mg to 3.5 so far

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BH34

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Male 34 MMT about 5yrs clean and sober whole time during MMT ) History opide user previous 11years pills to herion. I dont remember time table of taper Started at 90mgs for a close to a year then tapered to 60mg at 1mg every other week held there for a while ( no withdrawal ) Restarted taper and tappered to 28mgs at 1mg every other week ( no withdrawal ) held for a while Tappered to 14mg stoped ( no withdrawal ) waited a month tapered to 11mg at 1mg every other week then switched to 1mg a week to 8mg ( no withdrawal ) Hit 7mg to 4 mg ( mild withdrawal ) insomnia is the worst 1 - 5 hrs of sleep a night at best, also have bathroom issues gonna drink more fulids . ( tried to quit cold turkey at 6mg didnt sleep at all made it 4 days then dosed) Went to my doctor and will finish with him and taper a half mg a week to 0 ( I went from 90 to 8mg no withdrawal at 1mg every other week) at 3.5mgs this morning just tierd form insomnia other then that iam not sick. I will try to update my progress to 0mg then till I feel normal again . Ps i am a carpenter and able work throught my taper i could stand to lose 20lbs or so . If I can do this anyone can its not a race. good luck to all who do this
 
day 2 at 3.5mgs felt ok when got out of bed drank a powerade and electrolight enfused warter made a difference not runnin to bathroom as much except to take leak been drink coffe in AM ( tryed to stop caffeine but the withdrawal made insomnia worse so drink less pretty much quit soda) went to RED SOX game last night big deal because the methadone killed my drive to be social became a chronic isolater gettin beter. If I could sleep 7 hrs a night it would be a breeze.
 
You most certainly can do this, just take it really slow with methadone. It seems like most people have trouble with the last few milligrams, especially under 30, but if you've gotten down to 1-3.5mg with "no withdrawals" (and keep in mind methadone w/d's take a couple of days to really set in) then you are ahead of the MMT game in terms of tapering down.

I didn't understand your post the first time I read it, as I thought you did a super-rapid taper from 90mg to 8mg, but I read more closely the second time. 1mg every week/every other week is extremely conservative and a great taper plan, good job on that. Slow and steady wins the tapering race when it comes to benzos and opiates, like you said, "anyone can [do this,] it's not a race."

Since you are looking to lose 20 pounds, keep in mind that a good workout will have more opioid activity (through endorphins, enkephalins, and dynorphins) than 3.5mg of methadone, imo, and I would taper the caffeine as much as possible before kicking the methadone completely. Also, I don't consider 1-5 hours of sleep "tops" as counting as "no withdrawals," but rather as you making your withdrawals more comfortable, but keep in mind that you need a good 4-5 hours of sleep every night, at least, if you want to have natural levels of energy during the PAWS stage of methadone, which I wouldn't worry about in your case as you've tapered so slowly, letting the taper dosages "absorb" the acute and PAWS. Good luck, man, and keep us updated! :)
 
Thaks appreciate the input . MY TAPER FROM 90 mgs to 8 mgs WAS done very SLOWLY OVER 4 YEARS at 1mg EVERY OTHER WEEK WITH STOPS AT 60mg and 28mgs and 14mgs and 11mgs I HAD NO WITHDRAL UNTIL I HIT 7mgs ( the reasons 4 the stops were because my councler thouht I should make sure i stayed stable and i did), Sorry if it is confusing I an using a PS3 to type this I tryed to space stuff and I hit the post thing it pushed it all togther, ( I did go 1mg a week from 11mgs to 4mgs) NOW IAM DOING A HALF mg a week with my doctor
 
Day 3 at 3,5mgs sleep the best i have in weeks last night, The only thing different is drinking more fluids powerade and stop and shop electrolight water. maybe a fluke or lucky but ill take it I feel good this morning dosed at 6 AM heading to work soon. Yesterday got through day ok hit a wall at 2.30 pushed trough was sore on ride home. After i showered and ate dinner felt better. All in all yesterday wasnt so bad.
 
Good luck with your taper! It sounds like you're doing it the right way, nice and slow. I was on MMT for ten years and I tapered very rapidly. When I finally jumped off it I payed dearly for my impatience, LOL. If you need to talk to anyone once you quit, you can PM me.
 
Day 4@ 3.5mg sleep ok last night. Iam tierd to day so ran some errands felt like sleeping but dont want to be up all night. I am hopen my body adjusts to the half beter then full mg. Iam so low it may not matter. While at lest I know what expect now and not knowing was the worst part. Iam staying strong and will see this to the end.
 
mr. red said:
I'm at 140mg, been on it for about a year but I want to try and taper faster than that. Hopefully within 6 months. Gl on your taper
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When you start your taper, if you run into any problems message me. I can let you know what medications (and other things) I found helpful and you can speak to your doctor about them. Hopefully you won't have any trouble with your quick taper and you won't get PAWS but if you do I can let you know what I found helpful. I wish you the best of luck. I am not a very strong willed person and I was always a baby about WDs but I did it. If I can do it then you guys can do it too. I'm rooting for you two!
 
Thanks for the support everyone. Good luck with the taper. I found that trying to not look at my dose helped mentally whereas i didnt do a blind dose.
 
Day 5@ 3.5mg I didnt want to get up this morning, seems like best sleep is when I need to get up or the cat wakes me. The dogs wait but the cat 5AM clockwork . Iam tierd but feel ok dose should be kickin soon I really feel it now more then b4 weird. Heading to work soon Thanks again everyone .
 
Hang in there man. I've been an opiate addict for 11 years as well. I've never used methadone to kick personally but I know people who have and know the taper is rough. You can do it buddy. Stay tough.
 
i jumped at 3mg... that was the point where i started to feel mild WD symptoms as i approached the next day's dose... just keep at it and drop those little increments... you will know when its time to jump off...

btw: my taper literally matches yours... i was at 95mg at the highest and then tapered slowly over about 20 months... my last dose was 3 months ago and i gotta tell you its awesome not to have to deal with any of that MMT stuff anymore and my life off of methadone is f*cking awesome!... so keep at it and best of luck!!
 
Thanks that is awesome great job keep it up. When you jumed at 3mg how was your withdrawal and long did they last?
 
Day 6@ 3,5mg Yesterday I felt good slept ok last nlght. I toss and turn til I fall asleep. also been slacken with fluids so had the bathroom issue again. I have amoddium but dehydrates me. but stayen postive . Thanks everyone for their support
 
BH34 said:
Thanks that is awesome great job keep it up. When you jumed at 3mg how was your withdrawal and long did they last?
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WD symptoms were not terrible (not compared to say dope or hydrocodone) but it is still a pain in the ass... in particular the RLS and insomnia were pretty bad and lasted a while (45 days for the RLS and 70 for the insomnia.. but they got progressively better during that time) everything else only lasted about 4 days total and were totally manageable...
 
Thank you 4 the reply and good job. Did you sleep at all during your bout with insomnia? This is my bigest fear no sleep. I plan stopping no matter what, it all depends what mg I stop at. during your taper was stopping at 3mg same withdrawal as tappering below 5mg? That what i have heard.
 
Day @ 3.5 Yesterday was a long day at work tierd all day, then i get home shower eat and fell fine. I got some muscle spasms in my lower back didnt last to long. I made it through the day. THE BIGGEST THING THAT KEEPS ME GOING IS I DONT EVER HAVE TO FELL THIS WAY AGAIN. i did this to my self .
 
hell yeah man! i got off suboxone after some unknown years of abuse, id say 10 years, 3 on suboxone.

i know methadone is much worse for withdrawal but suboxone wasnt easy either.

either way dude, fucking awesome man. you finally get to that point where youre just sick of all the bullshit. keep thinking of how much that shit SUCKS.

what helped me was lots of hot baths for the legs, staying occupied in any way possible (shoveling snow for no reason at 4am, etc), and very very loud good music.
 
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