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Methadone Question
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ComfortablyNumb95
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Is this your first time or are you an habitual user? If the former, 60mg is way too much and no, you won't have any WD from just one does. If the latter, you have to give us a bit more information about your use.
First time user. I have been taking painkillers for over 7 years because of an arm injury. I took to many and ran out of my medication and for the first time had to buy it. This girl told me she was giving me painkillers to snort, i found out later it was heroin. I was sick, broke, and scared so I took 60mg methadone at 2am and I still feel it. Thank u for your help
ComfortablyNumb95
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The question is: do you have a tolerance? How many hours ago did you take it?
wezface
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In the future (I'm sure it's too late now):
If you've taken too much you think but still functional, or if you'd like to be prepared for that situation again, some cities with needle exchanges now are giving out naloxone (Narcan). Might be worth researching. Naloxone is an IV drug that binds to the opiate molecules in your bloodstream and keeps them from binding to the receptors in your brain, thus negating the opiate. It's used in cases of overdose and, until recently, was only available in a hospital setting. There's been a pretty big movement to get it into the hands of cops, EMTs, and users themselves, though, and there has been headway made.
If you've taken too much you think but still functional, or if you'd like to be prepared for that situation again, some cities with needle exchanges now are giving out naloxone (Narcan). Might be worth researching. Naloxone is an IV drug that binds to the opiate molecules in your bloodstream and keeps them from binding to the receptors in your brain, thus negating the opiate. It's used in cases of overdose and, until recently, was only available in a hospital setting. There's been a pretty big movement to get it into the hands of cops, EMTs, and users themselves, though, and there has been headway made.
Erikmen
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It depends on how much painkillers you were taking. You start with a small dosage and build it from there. I
60 mg is usually a lot.
wezface
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If you go to a methadone clinic, the highest possible starting dosage is usually 30mg. That's for heavy everyday users of usually IV opiates. Methadone is quite different from painkillers and is, in my opinion, more dangerous, which is why it should generally be administered in a controlled setting or only after you know exactly what you're doing with it.
ComfortablyNumb95
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OP are you OK?
LilikoiMoon
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I was thinking the same thing after reading this thread.
No offense but I often wonder why people play around with high doses of medications they have never taken before?
I have never done over 20mg of methadone a day, even after using opanas for a long time. While methadone helps with the withdrawals and a break from time to time, it scares me a little.
ComfortablyNumb95
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Strange, 20mg of methadone make me feel barely high without any substancial tolerance. But yeah I wouldn't take more than 5-10mg for a first timer, as the effects seem to vary so much from person to person.
Thank u for the replies. I felt really shitty but took some trazadone and slept through the worst of it. A friend of mine gave it to me and told me it was safe, now I feel like an idiot for believing him. I read that methadone wd is worse than heroin wd which makes me want to stay away from it. But at the same time I'm kinda desperate. How long do u have to be on it before u get wd?
it really varies from person to person as the half life of methadone varies so much. But a decent average would be that you have around two and a half days from the time you dosed untill you really start to feal off.
LilikoiMoon
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Dones don't make me high either, just take the edge off, and feel normal. Don't know why, I just have a golden rule never to take over 20 mg. I go down to 15 few days, then 10, then 5, then off. My body is weird.
LilikoiMoon
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Please, educate yourself on methadone before using again. This website offers some good harm reduction information and you should learn about deadly drug combos.
It's not a good idea to mix certain medications with methadone, especially at high doses.
Glad you're okay for now.
Erikmen
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Why is it more dangerous? Harm reduction that´s what this is for.
Less harmful than heroin, or IVing opiates all the time and end you life being a shitty junkie.
One needs to learn how to cope with the side effects and most people I know have a pretty normal life again.
It´s more difficult to get euphoric when you are using methadone, specially when you are trying to find your dosage,
but you don´t have as much cravings afterwards and that´s great. It normally works just fine.
May not be as good as subs but it surely meets its requirement. To keep you off the streets and drugs in general.
wezface
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Methadone withdrawal is worse. It lasts a hell of a lot longer (2-4 weeks, generally), which is most of the reason it is considered worse. Methadone is a lot longer-acting in your system and takes a lot longer to clear. Please, if you're considering switching to methadone, go to a clinic where you can dose in a controlled environment with medical staff present to help you figure out what you need.
Erikmen, I wasn't talking about the social dangers (or even street drugs, I actually compared it to the oral painkillers the OP was taking). In a controlled environment (a methadone clinic), with supervision, you're absolutely right: it is safer than street drugs. But when you don't know what you're doing with it, it is incredibly easy to OD on. The withdrawal is absolutely fierce. And I think that outside of that controlled clinic environment it is more dangerous precisely BECAUSE you don't get the heavy euphoric feeling, so people will tend to try to take more and more to "get high" when that is really not its purpose, and bam. took too much.
I want to add that I did spend three or so years in a methadone maintenance program, 130mg/daily. I tapered off as quickly as they would let me and got down to about 10mg/daily, but the month I spent sick in bed was still pretty hellish.
The long methadone withdrawal is due to it building up over time in the system of a daily user (it stores in the fat etc.) so once they stop using it, it takes longer to completely eliminate. If you're usually taking short acting opiates and you only take the methadone once or twice, you won't go through the extended withdrawal that regular methadone users experience.
The other reason why methadone builds up slowly in a daily user's body and then takes its time to eliminate is because even though each dose only holds a person for 24 hrs, it takes much longer than 24 hours to eliminate. Over 3-7 days (would have to look the exact number up) of daily use the dose builds up to a peak and plateaus. That's why a daily user can take a few days to feel back to normal after skipping a dose, even if they've dosed that day.
In the case such as yours where you usually take short acting opiates but have taken a once off large dose of long acting opiate (methadone), it will take a while for the effects to work out of your system but the drug itself will work its way out not long behind that. (Compared to a daily user where the effects wouldn't last as long but the drug takes much longer to completely eliminate.) If you would usually go through withdrawal on an opiate break, then you will still go through it but it might take a little longer to come on, due to the gradual elimination of long acting opiate. Once it starts, it would be like any other withdrawal you usually experience.
The other reason why methadone builds up slowly in a daily user's body and then takes its time to eliminate is because even though each dose only holds a person for 24 hrs, it takes much longer than 24 hours to eliminate. Over 3-7 days (would have to look the exact number up) of daily use the dose builds up to a peak and plateaus. That's why a daily user can take a few days to feel back to normal after skipping a dose, even if they've dosed that day.
In the case such as yours where you usually take short acting opiates but have taken a once off large dose of long acting opiate (methadone), it will take a while for the effects to work out of your system but the drug itself will work its way out not long behind that. (Compared to a daily user where the effects wouldn't last as long but the drug takes much longer to completely eliminate.) If you would usually go through withdrawal on an opiate break, then you will still go through it but it might take a little longer to come on, due to the gradual elimination of long acting opiate. Once it starts, it would be like any other withdrawal you usually experience.