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Opioids Methadone question

carrion Doll

carrion Doll

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I hope I don't get into trouble for this but it is cross posted from the methadone megathread. No one had an answer there and I need advice on this soon. So here goes...

I have a oxycodone habit. I have been taking around 180 mgs for several days now. before that I have jumped up and down from 60mgs/day to 200 mgs/day.

So my question is this. I just got 2 40 mg methadose wafers. What would be the best way IYO to split them up over the next 4 days to help with withdrawals? Will they be enough? Should I get another? I would really like to try doing this with just 2 if possible. Any advice and opinions are very appreciated. TIA
 
cut them in half, then cut those in half... so you have 8 pieces.

take 1 piece in the morning and 1 at night for 4 days

this should eliminate withdrawal symptoms for sure (your habit is about the same as mine, and that is what it would take for me) but it may not be enough to get you "high" (fine because that doesnt seem to be your goal)
 
^ What he said. Take the minimum amount necessary to stay well, just enough to feel better and not in WD and that way you can stretch the supply out. Remember that it has a long halflife so no need to redose too soon unless you are feeling sick.
 
180mg of oxycodone is roughly equal to around 27mg of methadone.

Methadone has a nice long half-life, so you should have no problem making it through those 4 days with minimal w/d symptoms.

Before taking any methadone, wait as long as you can into your w/d. If you do your last oxy dose at say 9pm, you should be able to get to around 5pm the following day with ease. At that time, I would take 25mg of the methadone orally. The next day, once again, wait as long as you can and do another 25mg. On day three, yet again, wait as long as you can, and take your last 30mg. Day 4, take nothing, the methadone will have built up a bit in your system and you should be somewhat comfortable. Look up methadone potentation and grab some OTC drugs that will help you do that. Also, it would help to grab some OTC drugs like lopermide, benadryl, and advil/excedrin to help you as well. Also, if you can grab a few xanax or something, that would help as well.

That schedule, along with the OTC drugs should hold you no problem.
Just be careful when dosing the methadone, it takes a long time to kick in (2-3hrs). So don't go re-dosing right away if you don't feel much, take your time.

Remember, you aren't trying to get high, just maintain for those few days, and that dosing schedule should make those days very tolerable.
 
Methadone will definitely kill the withdrawal, but I think you'll still be sick come Monday morn. I would recommend getting a bottle of cough syrup w/ codein, and taking that for three days. That will take the edge off until the Oxus are out of your system. Come Monday, you'll feel like a champ! Good enough to get up and go score - JK! That's what I do to come off of dope, and it works great. Good luck and stay strong!
 
Yea, I would probably do multiple dosing in a day, so maybe 10mgs in the morning and 10 at night. 180mg's of oxy per day is sort of a high dose, well I guess I would call it a moderate dose, but 20mg's of methadone should at least aid greatly for withdrawal if it doesnt kill it all. Since its all you got though thats the best way to do it, the first day may be a little rough but maybe not. Good luck.
 
hydrobliss said:
cut them in half, then cut those in half... so you have 8 pieces.

take 1 piece in the morning and 1 at night for 4 days

this should eliminate withdrawal symptoms for sure (your habit is about the same as mine, and that is what it would take for me) but it may not be enough to get you "high" (fine because that doesnt seem to be your goal)
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do you really want to get high from methadone though...it's a horrible high. it's like the speed of opiates/synthetic opiates. so dirty and horrid feeling..

over a year of being on methadone, i got one or two days where i got a nice high from it. to say i was spangled was an understatement. couldn't stand, had "e" eyes (rolling back in my head and trying to map my skull from the inside) and just felt so blissful.

the rest of the time, as i say, it was just dirty and horrible feeling. was why i eventually tried to come of it. failed though, but was then put on DHC instead, which is so, so, so much better. 300mg a day now and on a 3 time weekly pick up, so tend to skip days sometimes and have a day when i just get pot-holed and lie in that blanket of clouds for a few hours.

only IM morphine beats it...well, that and H, but i've never got round to IV'ing H. one day though, one day
 
^One of the first major highs I had with opiates was from 10mg's of methadone when I had no tolerance. I was absolutely ripped. I actually enjoyed the high though from what I remember. I sort of know what you mean about calling it the speed of opiates. I was talking a lot and remember feeling sort of energized. But again I do remember enjoying it. Later when I used methadone with a very large opiate tolerance I really never got any kind of high from it.
 
Nikolai said:
^One of the first major highs I had with opiates was from 10mg's of methadone when I had no tolerance. I was absolutely ripped. I actually enjoyed the high though from what I remember. I sort of know what you mean about calling it the speed of opiates. I was talking a lot and remember feeling sort of energized. But again I do remember enjoying it. Later when I used methadone with a very large opiate tolerance I really never got any kind of high from it.
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yeah, it seems that if you're not on a maintanence programme then methadone can be quite nice. just seems that if you're on the programme it tends to make you feel dirty..from my own experience and with talking to others at my drug clinic.

those few times i did get the nice effects though, they were really fucking nice...

i guess it could be a psychological thing though, cause you know it's there to replace something that does make you feel so good. might be worth some experimenting me thinks
 
I haven't done any opiates in a few months, besides doing about (?)45ish milligrams of the liquid. I just dissolved a 40 milligram wafer in Powerade, so waiting for that to kick in. I was extremely high with the liquid, and expect about the same this time. It can be very recreational through infrequent doses.
 
20mg daily i all you need. cut them in half. get one more waffer causes youll needabout 6 days worth of doses or you'll feel bad by day 4 and relapse. everyday try to take decreasingly smaller piece of the wafer as if you were reducing in dose amount daily. you need to come down comfortably. i've done tons of at home detoxes and i do much worse drugs than you and this method always worked for me pain free(wd free)
 
ATLien88 said:
I haven't done any opiates in a few months, besides doing about (?)45ish milligrams of the liquid. I just dissolved a 40 milligram wafer in Powerade, so waiting for that to kick in. I was extremely high with the liquid, and expect about the same this time. It can be very recreational through infrequent doses.
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Id let the pill dissolve under the tongue. I think sublingually is the best way to take methadone, hits the quickest that way IMO, even quicker than drinking it.
 
pucko said:
do you really want to get high from methadone though...it's a horrible high. it's like the speed of opiates/synthetic opiates. so dirty and horrid feeling..

over a year of being on methadone, i got one or two days where i got a nice high from it. to say i was spangled was an understatement. couldn't stand, had "e" eyes (rolling back in my head and trying to map my skull from the inside) and just felt so blissful.

the rest of the time, as i say, it was just dirty and horrible feeling. was why i eventually tried to come of it. failed though, but was then put on DHC instead, which is so, so, so much better. 300mg a day now and on a 3 time weekly pick up, so tend to skip days sometimes and have a day when i just get pot-holed and lie in that blanket of clouds for a few hours.

only IM morphine beats it...well, that and H, but i've never got round to IV'ing H. one day though, one day
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I've been on Methadone for awhile now, and for the most part, it's done the job. I just got sick of the ups and downs of junkie life. Not to mention, it's extremely expensive!

Anyways, I'm trying to come off methadone - actually just started tapering my dose. I'm interested in DHC. Are you located in the US? Where do you get it?
 
Enrique2000 said:
I've been on Methadone for awhile now, and for the most part, it's done the job. I just got sick of the ups and downs of junkie life. Not to mention, it's extremely expensive!

Anyways, I'm trying to come off methadone - actually just started tapering my dose. I'm interested in DHC. Are you located in the US? Where do you get it?
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no, i'm in scotland man. i get the DHC from my GP.

i have now been "passed" over to the central drugs problem services centre here in edinburgh to take over my maintenance programme, so things could be changing.

currently i am on 300mg of DHC a day. i find it much better than methadone, as i can go a day or two without and then take a fair dose and enjoy the high now and again. i also find it much cleaner feeling, although i sometimes think now that my feelings of methadone being dirty were maybe more in my mind than the actual physical effects of the drug itself. i did have a short time where they tried me on subutex, but my dr was an asshole and dropped me from 300mg of DHC a day to 4mg of sub, then he increased it up to 6, then 8mg, but refused to go any higher than that.

i didn't think DHC is something that american doctors really use in the management of addictions, or is that wrong?

i have always been under the impression that they use methadone or subutex/suboxone?
 
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