Hello everyone, Im a new Bluelight special poster.. Anyway I have been using Heroin since I was about 18 years old, Im now 30. Ive also been going to methadone clinics for just as long. Im now taking 120mg of methadone. I get the white 40mg biscuits. Ok so I was talking to my boy that lives over in the U.K (Ireland), He said that the methadone(Physeptone) that they get over there is twice as potent as what I get here in the USA. Meaning alls I would need is 60mg of Physeptone to eaqual my 120mg of American methadone. Does anyone know if thet make it stronger overseas? And also in a urine test would it chemically come up as exact? Thanks ....
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Methadone Physeptone.
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I'm no H user but here in Britain you don't get it in mg's, It usually is given as a green liquid and is measured as ml's. And as for American Methadone being stronger i've no idea bud, my guess is it would be the same, as a few mil to many can be the diff between life and death, so i don't think it's any stronger and it isn't a street drug so purity is always the same
Yeah I would guess it would be the same as well. He said he has 5mg pills. Ive done some research on the different brands of methadone,And the difference between oral and injectable methadone. And that was news to me but suposadly there is certain methadone thats injectable. I have no interest in trying this but i guess it can be done. But Ill keep the question out there if anyone els has any info on this????? Thanks.
Well the "Done" as it's called here is in liquid form but that's only for oral use. Most methadone users have to go to a chemist everyday to get it. After a few months or longer, if you can prove your taking it properly they give you it out to take with you. Then, to get money for H they dilute the methadone down and sell it to make enough to get a couple of bags.
Oh Ok thats something for me to take into consideration. Yeah he said they are the 5mg pills, I have only gotten the liquid, and now the 40mg white biscuits. I have read there are 5mg pills but ive never seen them. maybe we can get some answers ourselves you said that your in France . Do yo mind me asking how many mill your on? Yeah here in the US you start by going to the clinic as we call it. But once you have clean urines for a period of time you start to get take homes. Im up to going once a month. 120mg. But im about to see the DR to increase because Im sweating it out to fast because of work, I do Labor....
I don't take methadone and have never done H, just seen friends of mine at it and i wouldn't touch it. Oh and i'm from the UK and as far as I'm aware It's in Liquid form only and is rarely dispatched only people they trust to take them right get to go away with them, those just coming off H wouldn't stand a chance of getting a script even. They have to wait 3 weeks before trying for Detox. Also Subutex are stating replace a lot of nethadone as it's less dangerous and doesn't really give any high to an opoid-tolerant user
phatass
Bluelighter
as far as i know, and i did a bit of research there is no difference, its all methadone hydrochloride.... at least here it is.. whether in liquid form, or in the capsules with powder in them....
i searched google for more information on methadone physeptone, but found no info saaying it was stronger or weaker than methadone
i searched google for more information on methadone physeptone, but found no info saaying it was stronger or weaker than methadone
Yeah thanks for taking the time to look it up though. Its from the U.K so it doesnt have to meet our FDA standards of drug quality. So thats something els to consider,
sativasativa
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This is really good question. I can give a little insight on this subject I realize you are talking about the methadone tablets and my insight is pertaining to the liquid...Im located on the east coast and i have been in two different mmt programs in two different states. Ive been on mmt for about a year now in PA and about two years+ ago i was in an MMT program in NJ pburg to be exact.
So... I was up to 80 mg in New Jersey and currently im on 100mg in the program in PA. Now, heres the thing...im one hundred percent positive that even the 40mg dose that i was on the second week in the NJ program was somehow just as if not more potent than the hundred mg dose im on currently in PA. I mean the methadone in PA still serves its purpose and has held me over well since i was at about 80mg, 100mg being a little more satisfying on my body physically no euphoria at all just get really itchy(which is kind of annoying with no euphoria). But the 80mg methadone dose I was getting in the NJ MMT program literally WRECKED me By the time i was up to 40mg I was held over couldnt really get high anymore but rather didnt want to because i was fucked up from my dose of meth just wanted to keep increasing because it really felt that good(In PA it took me til 70/80mg til i didnt get a rush from injecting H anymore). it was so euphoric that id be veering off the highway til i hit the rumble strips, scratching my skin open on my feet with my toenails in my sleep, talking like i was using iv heroin,
id get that pressure-like feeling/sound in my ears when i tensed up my shoulders
Ive talked to other people at my clinic and have heard some other people saying that they thought the methadone was better at the pburg nj clinic, and also that it had much harder for them to kick than the methadone in the PA clinic. if i could take a guess id say that its a different brand of methadone perhaps the Physeptone that was being discussed in this thread? Has anyone had a similar experience in the states with what seemed to be different potencies or should i say different effects from different clinics liquid methadone?
So... I was up to 80 mg in New Jersey and currently im on 100mg in the program in PA. Now, heres the thing...im one hundred percent positive that even the 40mg dose that i was on the second week in the NJ program was somehow just as if not more potent than the hundred mg dose im on currently in PA. I mean the methadone in PA still serves its purpose and has held me over well since i was at about 80mg, 100mg being a little more satisfying on my body physically no euphoria at all just get really itchy(which is kind of annoying with no euphoria). But the 80mg methadone dose I was getting in the NJ MMT program literally WRECKED me By the time i was up to 40mg I was held over couldnt really get high anymore but rather didnt want to because i was fucked up from my dose of meth just wanted to keep increasing because it really felt that good(In PA it took me til 70/80mg til i didnt get a rush from injecting H anymore). it was so euphoric that id be veering off the highway til i hit the rumble strips, scratching my skin open on my feet with my toenails in my sleep, talking like i was using iv heroin,
id get that pressure-like feeling/sound in my ears when i tensed up my shouldersIve talked to other people at my clinic and have heard some other people saying that they thought the methadone was better at the pburg nj clinic, and also that it had much harder for them to kick than the methadone in the PA clinic. if i could take a guess id say that its a different brand of methadone perhaps the Physeptone that was being discussed in this thread? Has anyone had a similar experience in the states with what seemed to be different potencies or should i say different effects from different clinics liquid methadone?
Lolie
Bluelighter
Are you sure he isn't talking about the concentration per ml? When pharmacists make up individual doses here the concentration will be higher for someone on a large dose like 200mg than for someone on a low dose like 40mg, so in that sense it's "stronger".
donnie080208
Bluelighter
The concentration of the u.k. green liquid oral is 1mg/1ml , i have never heard of any other strengths being given out. there are injectable solutions , given very rarely (ive never personally known anyone on these) which are probably different strengths.
In the u.k. it is never prescribed for pain, so the strengths and solutions arent as different as the u.s.a.. I have heard theres 10mg/1ml solutions in other countries however but definetly not the u.k. as has been said though mdone is mdone but obviously it comes in different strength solutions like any drug
In the u.k. it is never prescribed for pain, so the strengths and solutions arent as different as the u.s.a.. I have heard theres 10mg/1ml solutions in other countries however but definetly not the u.k. as has been said though mdone is mdone but obviously it comes in different strength solutions like any drug
BIGsherm7272
Bluelighter
methadone = methadone
It is impossible for one brand of methadone to be 2x as potent as another, mg per mg.
Physeptone is just a brand name for methadone. And I thought that they stopped production of the 40mg wafers of methadone in the US?
Edit: Just read that only methadone clinics are allowed to use the 40mg wafers, and that doctors are no longer able to prescribe them.
It is impossible for one brand of methadone to be 2x as potent as another, mg per mg.
Physeptone is just a brand name for methadone. And I thought that they stopped production of the 40mg wafers of methadone in the US?
Edit: Just read that only methadone clinics are allowed to use the 40mg wafers, and that doctors are no longer able to prescribe them.
donnie080208
Bluelighter
^ I agree, i think the poster must have had a lower tolerance when he was getting euphoria of the other clinics methadone. if it is mg for mg the same ,its the only possible explanation for that bigger differance in effects
homeydontplaythat
Bluelighter
the only way that one clinic may have had stronger shit is if the other was watering the stuff down. this does happen. the people that run the clinic can make twice as much money by selling what they skim and admining the rest. or they can just use a supply for themself. it does happen.
donnie080208
Bluelighter
.^probably does rarely but cant see it being worth the risk as methadone must be dirt cheap to the clinic
Lolie
Bluelighter
It's 25mg/5ml in syrup form here (thus the pharmacist diluting the syrup to titrate small doses). 10mg/1ml for injection and also available in 10mg tablets. It's approved for palliative care here but not one of the drugs of choice for that use.
"here in Britain you don't get it in mg's, It usually is given as a green liquid and is measured in ml's"
Just to add...I'm a methadone parient in England and I'm prescribed 185mg of methadone in tablet form, the tablets I get are manufactured by martindale and are called Physeptone. They come in 5mg tablets and no higher. The green methadone liquid is 1mg/1ml but none the less it's actually prescribed in miligrams. Some patients may get the concentrated methadone liquid which is 10mg/1ml and I have a friend in arising who gets this so I believe this is what most patients in the US are prescribed.
Just to add...I'm a methadone parient in England and I'm prescribed 185mg of methadone in tablet form, the tablets I get are manufactured by martindale and are called Physeptone. They come in 5mg tablets and no higher. The green methadone liquid is 1mg/1ml but none the less it's actually prescribed in miligrams. Some patients may get the concentrated methadone liquid which is 10mg/1ml and I have a friend in arising who gets this so I believe this is what most patients in the US are prescribed.