Methadone + Methylphenidate IV

[Bargain Basement]

Hello Board!

I have been lurking this board for ten years, and always found an answer to any question I had, so I never registered a user. However, now I have gotten an idea, that I would like for you guys to review before I just go right ahead and do it.

So, I have been injecting the EU Cherry liquid Methadone, very seldom and yes, I do realize this is hardly in the spirit of harm-reduction at all, but at the rate I have been doing it, which is less than can even be stated as intervals at all, I am not too worried about that.

Now I am interested in injecting the injectable section of a 54mg Concerta tab in the same rig with the methadone. I do realize that both these practices on their own are against the whole concept of harm-reduction, but I have been doing them at some occasions anyways. Like I said, this is very seldom, and even if they may not be the greatest things for injection, there does not seem to be any direct/instant health risks associated with it.

I dont have an opiate tolerance now, and the dose of methadone I am contemplating injecting with the methylphenidate is around 10mg's, which actually is a recreational dose for me at this point. The IR part of the concerta would represent, I guess around 25 mgs(please correct me if I am wrong), and these injections provides a nice effect on their own.

So to summarize, 10mgs methadone with ~27mgs methylphenidate in some water, in the same rig. Do anyone know of any direct contraindications with this IV combo? Like I said, I know its hardly healthy practices, so please spare me those words of wisdom, I already agree. Also anyone who actually did it, I would greatly appreciate to hear from you.

Fast reply's are of course greatly appreciated. And thanks to all the knowledgeable regulars and mods for keeping this site going, it has been of great help to me during the years.

Thanks alot
/Bargain Basement

 

[FlawedByDesign]

I had a horrible time just snorting concerta, I couldnt imagine shooting it. I dont even see how you could get that shit in a rig, it clogged up my nose so bad. Il spare you the "please dont shoot pills" speech as requested above, i just hope for your sake that youre micron filtering. I have have mixed high doses of methylphenidate and methadone before and had no problems(snorting the ritalin and eating the methadone)

 

[skoat]

All I can say is filter that shit as much as possible.

Purchase micron filters if possible. Its just a few bucks...makes what you're doing so much safer.

 

[Bargain Basement]

You have to take the concerta's apart and whatever you do, just shoot the IR part, the grey green thing will gel horribly, and I am told that if you manage to get something injectable out of that sludge, the effects will be bad. Even really bad.

Injecting the IR part of these multi-layered tabs is not a problem. This has been done. If these tabs are something else in other locations, which I greatly doubt, just think of my question as IV methadone + Ritalin.

There are surely people in here that has done this, injected just that on part of the concerta's. These practices that I now wish to combine has both been done separately.

Thank you for your reply though!

 

[Bargain Basement]

Thank you scoat. Yes, these are hardly safe practices in the microparticular sense. As I gather is obvious from my first post, what I am after here is; Are there any direct pharmacological contraindications when doing these substances in the same rig like this? these doses are low as you can see.

I will filter well.

 

[skoat]

i see no contradiction, but you know your tolerance for sure. im just guessing

 

[sixpartseven]

The two drugs together are not going to be harmful, but that is if they were pure. I don't care how often you're shooting that Methadone, it's doing damage even at the rate you're using it. It's a horrible idea and there's no way you can spin it to make it so that it's not hurting you.

But to answer your question: no, there are no contraindications with methadone and methylphenidate.

For future reference, combination questions belong in Basic Drug Discussion, which is where I will be moving this thread.

 

[Bargain Basement]

Thank You!

Yes, I know this, I do realize that these practices, on their own and when combined, are causing harm to my body. That tiny tiny bit of spin that may be detected up there was for the sake of not having to hear about it too much. In a thread like this it should be mentioned though, for other readers, even if I myself wont need to be reminded about it.

I guess I may have had some idea along the lines of traditional speedballs being considered alot more dangerous than corresponding amounts of oral opiate and stimulant. So I wondered if I have something to worry about when dispersing these drugs through my body via IV, at a considerably faster rate, then when taken orally.

As an aside, not that I am planning on doing that necessarily anyways, but can liquid methadone be filtered safer through an micronfilter?

Anyone has anything to add, or any experience with this particular IV combination, please chime in.

Thank you all for your contributions!

 

[Captain.Heroin]

You can micron filter the methadone syrup but I don't know what's in it, so I couldn't say how much of it you can put through one filter.

It is likely that you would want to filter with cotton first, to remove larger particles. Then, you should micron filter it too. The cotton helps filter out what would otherwise clog the micron filter.

Read up on micron filtering here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=481622

 

[Bargain Basement]

Thanks!
You know, I always hung out here, for years never registering. And when I first saw your treads about IV'ing the buprenorphine tabs, I thought that was pretty insane, having heard all this time what horrible consequences it can have, certainly with misses.

Since then I have seen all the energy you have put into making information available about micronfiltering trough various FAQs. I especially enjoyed that recent one about preparing bacteriostatic solutions for IV use. These really are the types of information I always came to this board for, along with other kinds as well of course, but its the most important contributions that can be made in my perspective.

When you are around, I hope its ok if I ask a question that is related to the injection of subutex solutions? Well, I always knew its was not only bad missing with these solutions, that they also affect vein condition over time. But lately I met a patient that is 40+ yrs old, and has been doing the subutex IV for up to ten years. He is now having alot of health issues, like all around bad circulation, not just vein collapses at the sites, to the point of fading alot, and being pale from it.

Is this totally negated with the filtering, even in a decade of use?
I realize that this question probably could be researched on my own, a lot of it was just taking the chance to ask you now when you're in this tread. Sorry if you guys frown upon this kinda vague questioning, in a tread that was originally about something else. Keep it open though if you dont mind, I am hoping for someone who did the combo, but I dont know how many users go regularly to the drug basic forum, where it was moved.

Sorry if I have been rambling, keep up the good work!