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Opioids methadone for a week while on vacation?

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allthedowners

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I've searched all over for an answer to my question and couldn't find anything.. so forgive me if I've looked over it somewhere..

I'm an IV heroin user, about half a gram daily for four years, and I'm going on a trip with my sister in a couple of days. My trip will last about a week, during which I won't have the luxury of stealing off every morning to fix up. Subs are not an option, so I've considered taking some methadone with me to keep the withdrawals at bay. Since I've never been on MMT and pretty much just stick to my half gram habit each morning, I'm wondering how much liquid done I should allot for each day in order to keep me stable. 30 to 40 mgs a day has been suggested, but my question is should I expect this dose to hold me? Also, is it a good idea to bring some dope with me in case the done doesn't do the trick, or is mixing the two a recipe for disaster? Would it be wiser to just say the hell with the methadone and take my chances getting caught shooting h?


Any input, any at all, would be much appreciated.
 
It's always smart to start small and then work your way up. Methadone I have no experience and only hear horror stories. Be safe, be careful!
 
agreed^^

allthedowners said:
I've searched all over for an answer to my question and couldn't find anything.. so forgive me if I've looked over it somewhere..

I'm an IV heroin user, about half a gram daily for four years, and I'm going on a trip with my sister in a couple of days. My trip will last about a week, during which I won't have the luxury of stealing off every morning to fix up. Subs are not an option, so I've considered taking some methadone with me to keep the withdrawals at bay. Since I've never been on MMT and pretty much just stick to my half gram habit each morning, I'm wondering how much liquid done I should allot for each day in order to keep me stable. 30 to 40 mgs a day has been suggested, but my question is should I expect this dose to hold me? Also, is it a good idea to bring some dope with me in case the done doesn't do the trick, or is mixing the two a recipe for disaster? Would it be wiser to just say the hell with the methadone and take my chances getting caught shooting h?


Any input, any at all, would be much appreciated.
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and technically, if you were planning on using methadone for just the week you were on vacation, it wouldn't be considered MMT. I'm not sure if you understood that or not, I just wanted to make it clear. Good luck.
 
I understand that it won't be MMT. Is it a feasible idea to use done for just one week as a way to keep the sickness away, and then go back to using dope when I return? Will using 30 mgs of methadone keep me well, even on the first day?
 
Honestly it could kill you..... I would be afraid of 5 mg even. It binds in a different way so I don't know how adjusting to the different effect getting on and off well affect you.
 
allthedowners said:
I understand that it won't be MMT. Is it a feasible idea to use done for just one week as a way to keep the sickness away, and then go back to using dope when I return? Will using 30 mgs of methadone keep me well, even on the first day?
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Yes it is most definitely feasible, and I have done it several times myself, back when I was a heroin/opiate addict. I was probably somewhat "more of an addict" than you seem to be, as I was using significantly more H than you say you use. Basically I was so addicted I ruined my life and damaged the lives of the people who cared about me. I stole, lied, dealt, etc.. anything to get my fix.
I am telling you this^^ to give you an idea of my tolerance to opiates at the time.... which, to be honest, was the highest tolerance I had ever seen or heard of. I STARTED taking opiates in the very beginning of my opiate use with hydrocodone to help with sores from intense physical workouts. My first doses were around the 80- 120mg hydrocodone range because that was the lowest dose I could take to get ANY effect whatsoever from the hydrocodone. This is when I discovered I have a natural tolerance to opiates. I learned that MOST people upon using hydrocodone for the first time for mild to moderate pain only need 5-15 mg's before they report feelings of euphoria and no pain.

Anyway, my point is, YES, I do believe that 30mg's is a good place to start with the methadone, and if that doesn't seem to be holding you, take another 10mgs every hr. until you feel ok. My guess is that you wont need any more than 60 mgs. And since methadone has a LOOOOONG half life, your in luck, because that means once you find the dose that works for you, it should last for quite a long time.

Good luck and please don't hesitate to ask anymore questions that may come up.
 
Even when I had no tolerance I would recreationally take 30 mg. Sometimes a 40mg wafer when my dude had them. I was very young at the time and I would be absolutely ripped and in hindsight it was NOT safe. But when I had a high oxy tolerance I got on MMT and started on 40 and it held me well. (I then cheated the system and worked myself all the way up to 120mg, stupid.) Just be careful and don't take any benzos with it, I've almost died because of that. Lots of people HAVE died. The respiratory depression is very strong with Methadone.
 
Thanks everyone. I've managed to accumulate about 400 mgs of liquid done and I need it to last 5 days, which seems doable. But no one has seemed to answer my question as to whether I can supplement the 40 or so mgs of done I'll be taking in the morning with a bag of dope at night. Taco, I'm not sure I understand your answer either. Could you clarify?

Also, on the day I leave, will it be safe to shoot dope after doing only done all week, (assuming I don't supplement with dope throughout the week)?
 
...I would wait until you don't feel any effect from the Methadone before you do more heroin. But it would be even safer to wait until you are kinda sick with WD's before you take any heroin.
 
I would avoid mixing the dope and done even taking one in the morning and one at night. You really will be taking a huge risk.

I also say the thing about od risk as I've heard a very bad horror story involving an addict switching to done and dying with emergency intervention with 20 mg.... Seriously start as small as you can like 5 mg and slowly work up from there by 5 mg until you find your dose. Also remember at a certain point methadone will prevent other opiates like heroin from working due to it's binding action and strength although I think it happens at higher doses only. Methadone maintenance is to stop withdrawal and nothing else.

I personally never used it as I also hear stories about the addiction to the compound due to the long binding effect. IMO either use the dope or the methadone, but don't use both. Be careful and be safe!
 
Stick to either heroin or methadone, don't combine the two, it's just too unpredictable, and usually the methadone will overpower the heroin anyway.
 
You should be good with 20mgs of methadone ......IMO, start there & raise it by 5 MG's in an hour if needed.

Someone above mentioned they ingested 40mgs of methadone w/o a tolerance.......that's insanity! That would kill more thsn 90% of opiate naive people.
 
After reading your post above in the link, I definitely believe you got hosed bro.......bunk methadone. 70mgs should have had you feeling really well.
 
But I am wondering that since the subs barely helped either, what if my dependence is just too grave for either done or subs to help? Or does methadone not work like that?
 
Ive been on methadone for over 5 years, I abuse it though thru the month and run out early, usually about10 days without before I can refill my script, during this time, I use heroin to get thru this time period...the thing is with methadone and heroin, I have to wait about 3 days and get the methadone out of my system before using any heroin, or it will be a waste, the methadone blocks the heroin high. and vice verse, Ive done alot of h one day and the next get my methadone filled, but usually have to take about 40-50 mg in order to feel it, as heroin use skyrockets a persons tolerance to opiates in general...it sucks.

I think you should be good with that amount of liquid done for one week, just start off around 30mg, wait about 30 minutes to an hour and see if you feel it, if not increase your dose by about 15 mgs...just keep track of how much done your ingesting, because that shit builds up and the resp. depression can be an issue with high doses

I take pill form methadone, but have alot of friends on MMT that get the liquid, they usually take about 80 mg a day for a moderate heroin addiction...I think 70-80mg a day should put you in a good spot, you wont have any w/d and should feel pretty good for the entire day. in my case Ive found methadone lasts me about 3-4 hours then it starts wearing off.
 
We can only speculate as to how much methadone you will need to stave off your withdrawals.

Most people at the Methadone clinic are initiated at 30mgs. Using what knowledge I've gleaned from this forum and in conversation with people at the clinic, it seems like for most moderate opiate users, this is enough to hold them. Now, being "held" can be a lot different than actually being comfortable. You still could be irritable, tired, weak etc. You are after all on vacation and you want to have fun. You don't want to just "manage".

You could need as much as 50-60 to be truly comfortable. Expect the best, but plant for the worst.
 
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