Methadone clinic considers offering cash to addicts

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A Northeast Baltimore clinic that once pitched on-demand methadone to desperate addicts during the late-night hours is focusing on a new idea — paying addicts to come in for treatment.

"We are targeting a non-traditional population of addicts that isn't so interested in treatment," said the Rev. Milton Williams, who runs Turning Point Clinic, housed in his New Life Evangelical Baptist Church. "This will be an incentive."

The state has yet to approve the original on-demand, or "open access" idea, citing federal rules that require, for example, a lengthy examination of anyone getting methadone, a Schedule 2 narcotic. The incentive, $20 supplied by a private foundation or other group yet to be named, is a "Plan B," one Williams believes doesn't need any special approvals because the program would be run as a traditional clinic, just at night with no appointments.

Williams had proposed the open-access clinic, from 6 p.m. to midnight, in June, with addicts getting methadone within 15 minutes of walking through his door. It would be an opportunity to steer addicts to traditional treatment, offered at the clinic during the day, though he said he expected many would eschew the opportunity. But he said such a clinic would most certainly stop the crimes of those needing money for a fix, crimes he often witnesses from his North Avenue church.

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Backing up the state's reservations are some addictions experts, who say 15 minutes isn't enough time to do a proper evaluation of an addict. Addicts need, for example, to submit to a urine test because methadone cannot be provided to someone who is already high. And addicts need to be watched for adverse responses.

One expert also questioned the treatment value of using cash to lure hard-core addicts who don't yet want treatment.

"If you give an addict $20, he'll turn around a day later and spend $20 on drugs, even if he gets a dose of methadone," Fingerhood said. "Most programs that give incentives usually offer a voucher and not cash. Or why not give them food? Once word of mouth gets out that they are offering $20, people will come in droves for the money and not methadone. They won't know what to do."

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I find myself on the fence here.

I see the point in the last paragraph, but I also see what they are trying to do.

Maybe offering some sort of discount coupon on their next methadone dose in exchange for a treatment evaluation would work better?

Or are there holes in my logic?

EDIT: Maybe discount coupons being offered in exchange for REHAB is a good idea. The addict will get a discount on his/her methadone so long as he or she proves they have attended rehab that day/week/whatever
 
the obstacle that several times has kept me from starting methadone is not being able to afford the down payment at the clinic. I'd have used a lot less heroin if starting the program were free

what also makes methadone programs a pain in the ass up front is that you have to a) come in only on days the doctor's there and b) sit there for hours sick as fuck until they decide to dose you.

If they can eliminate those three obstacles, I can see a lot more heroin addicts starting MMT

You give away money, though, and you'll get a ton of people that ain't even heroin addicts (like basers) showing up just for the $20, and then never coming back again

then again, how can you know it won't work if you don't try it?
 
isn't it possible that clinics are just trying to get more people on methadone in order to generate more revenue? By getting more people to try it, there's probably a greater chance that more people will stay on it, and for long periods of time, making them much more money. In that sense I think it's a terrible idea. I'm sure whoever thought this up considered the fact that some people may scam the system, but that may be a small cost compared to the bigger payoff of having more people addicted to methadone.
 
Offering cash for methadone treatment seems pretty dubious, but I definitely see the logic behind offering 'on demand' methadone. If an addict is broke and in withdrawal, then knowing they can go down to the clinic and get well instantly seems like it would greatly reduce their chance of committing crime to fund their next fix.

Maybe if they tried something in the middle. Have the addict register for 'on demand' dosing and be evaluated for tolerance etc. This way they can go to the clinic and be dosed when they run out of heroin, without being obliged to give up heroin entirely or rock up to the clinic every day. It seems like a lot of addicts, especially the long term ones who don't get very high anymore and just use to maintain, would quickly realize the benefits of the methadone program and swap over to full time patients.
 
isn't it possible that clinics are just trying to get more people on methadone in order to generate more revenue? By getting more people to try it, there's probably a greater chance that more people will stay on it, and for long periods of time, making them much more money. In that sense I think it's a terrible idea. I'm sure whoever thought this up considered the fact that some people may scam the system, but that may be a small cost compared to the bigger payoff of having more people addicted to methadone.

The more money they make, the fewer people will be dependent on street opiates. This is only a bad thing if you believe people should be dependent on street opiates.
 
^ i think it's only a bad thing when people who don't have a serious habit get put on methadone. The money that would otherwise be going to a black market can be diverted to clinics and doctors. This creates an incentive for clinics/doctors/whoever else involved to get more people on methadone, even if they do not necessarily need it. This may not be what's happening but i think it's a possibility.
 
i know where this place is but i had no idea about the overnight methadone thing. I go to a clinic in baltimore county and the LAST thing that place would ever consider is giving cash to ppl. All of the businesses in the area routinely protest the place and put up signs in the clinic telling patients not to patronize the local places, just to get your shit and go home. This seems like an idea that is out of the box and all, but it would just end up getting taken advantage of and end up doing more harm than good.
 
i know where this place is but i had no idea about the overnight methadone thing. I go to a clinic in baltimore county and the LAST thing that place would ever consider is giving cash to ppl. All of the businesses in the area routinely protest the place and put up signs in the clinic telling patients not to patronize the local places, just to get your shit and go home. This seems like an idea that is out of the box and all, but it would just end up getting taken advantage of and end up doing more harm than good.

That's a little fucked up...
 
This reminds me of the childhood warning that drug dealers would give me drugs to try to get me hooked so I'd come back for more.

Also-- Why give them money? Why not just give them free doses?
 
That's a little fucked up...

yea seriously....There is a coffee shop by the clinic and they asked the clinic operators to put up signs around the clinic saying patients are not allowed to go there because they have had problems in the past with ppl going in and using the restrooms for long periods of time, ppl hanging out at the tables for hours not buying anything, loitering and all that stuff. Patients still go but it has created a climate in the area of fear of being around junkies and methadone patients.
 
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