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Methadone and Hydrocodone?

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I got four 10mg methadone pills from my buddy and also i got 15 10/325 hydrocodones...my question is do these two drugs go along together or is it not good to take hydrocodone while taking methadone and vice versa? i know that methadone is a lot stronger but i heard somewhere that if you take it recreationally then it might mess up how they interact with your body..thanks
 
Hydro. isn't even in the ballpark with Methadone. 'Done is strong shit, period.
I wouldn't recommend mixing the two.
Go very slow with Methadone, especially with little or no tolerance.
That stuff can put your lights out permanently, if you get crazy with it.

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Pchild said:
Hydro. isn't even in the ballpark with Methadone. 'Done is strong shit, period.
I wouldn't recommend mixing the two.
Go very slow with Methadone, especially with little or no tolerance.
That stuff can put your lights out permanently, if you get crazy with it.

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how should i space out 4 tablets that are 10mg each? and what is the lethal dose of methadone that'll kill you?
 
there is no lethal dose, its different for every person.

With no tolerance, i would say take 20mg max. Back when i used to sniff mad oxys and could easily do a few hundred mg in a day, 30mg of done would fuck me the fuuuck up.

There would be no reason to take methadone with hydro. Hydrocodone is some seriously weak shit, and would just be totally wasted if you took it with done. the methadone at certain doses, 40-50mg in general, can begin to block your ability to get high on other opiates once you reach that threshold.

Even if you take it at a lower dose, its so strong that it would completely overpower your hydro high and you wouldnt feel nothing but methadone.

You need to be careful witih methadone, it comes on very slow. You dont reach the peak effects til 3-4 hours after you take them.

If you take your dose, wait that long, and still feel unsatisfied, do NOT dose more methadone until at least 5 or 6 hours later. even then its a bad look. See methadones long half life makes it so that once you redose later on, you might end up feelin much higher than you really want to feel. its hard to dose right without bein familiar with the drug, for a new user , thats why there is so many methadone OD's. people think they aint high enough and then increase the dose and then they get waaaay too high when the cumulative effect of the combined doses hits them.

Be careful, and do a search. there is MANY threads about how to dose methadone and you can find out that info in there, as far as ur question here about mixing them both, dont do it, hope that answers good enough for you.
 
lacey k said:
there is no lethal dose, its different for every person.

With no tolerance, i would say take 20mg max. Back when i used to sniff mad oxys and could easily do a few hundred mg in a day, 30mg of done would fuck me the fuuuck up.

There would be no reason to take methadone with hydro. Hydrocodone is some seriously weak shit, and would just be totally wasted if you took it with done. the methadone at certain doses, 40-50mg in general, can begin to block your ability to get high on other opiates once you reach that threshold.

Even if you take it at a lower dose, its so strong that it would completely overpower your hydro high and you wouldnt feel nothing but methadone.

You need to be careful witih methadone, it comes on very slow. You dont reach the peak effects til 3-4 hours after you take them.

If you take your dose, wait that long, and still feel unsatisfied, do NOT dose more methadone until at least 5 or 6 hours later. even then its a bad look. See methadones long half life makes it so that once you redose later on, you might end up feelin much higher than you really want to feel. its hard to dose right without bein familiar with the drug, for a new user , thats why there is so many methadone OD's. people think they aint high enough and then increase the dose and then they get waaaay too high when the cumulative effect of the combined doses hits them.

Be careful, and do a search. there is MANY threads about how to dose methadone and you can find out that info in there, as far as ur question here about mixing them both, dont do it, hope that answers good enough for you.
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thank you. anyone else have any helpful input?
 
No. methadone has a much more subtle high. It fucks you the fuck up, i mean you will be fuckin zonked, but dont expect the same type of high. the qualities of the methadone high are much different than the ones you get with oxy, etc. the euphoria aint really there IMO, but its just a really sedated, chill, "I dont give a fuck about nothin, everything is juuuuuuuuust fiiiiine" kinda high....Everything is just real slow, like you walkin in molasses or somethin. you just kinda sittin there starin out at the world like duuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh..............with your tongue hangin out...you get the idea.

The thing is once you do this more and more you aint gonna get that effect from it no more. you gotta keep spacing it out. people who take methadone on the regular dont get nothing even close to that kind of effect from it and you will lose the high if you keep takin it all the time.

For drugs like oxy, etc, you can get used to takin the same dose all the time but if you take extra you will still get high. with methadone, once you are dependent on it and take it everyday, it loses the ability to get you high and you wont catch no high from it at all no more so use it wisely with long breaks inbetween.
 
Don't mix the two! Its very easy to overdose on Methadone. It can really slow down your breathing at too high of a dose. For a first time user I wouldn't recommend anymore than 15mg. And DON'T redose. It comes on slow and the effects don't really kick in until a couple hours of taking it. Some people don't think that its working and take another dose or two and that's an easy way over overdosing. It has a long half life and lasts a long time. The effects are more subtle but its very sedating and can produce a very nice nod. Its not stimulating like Oxycodone or even Hydrocodone. Have fun and be careful.
 
I personally like mixing the 2. When I used to snort pills, I would crush both and mix it up and snort them together. I have a pretty decent tolerance so take that into consideration if you're new to the opiate game.
 
Please dont suggest that information to somebody else.

Its incredibly ignorant and stupid to snort either one of these medications. ill tell you why.

FIRST-- Hydrocodone is in a HUGE pill with enormous amounts of acetaminophen and binders and fillers. The amount of actual hydrocodone in that pill is so fucking small. Its under 10% of the total weight of the pill.

So, you sniffed a huge pill full of disgusting ass tylenol and shit like that. And guess wat? There was so much garbage in your nose, that it was clogged up, and all your nasal membranes that would absorb the hydro, were blocked before any of the active drug even got up your nose. You wasted the pill. If you think you got high, it was becuz of the drip of the pill into your stomach, not from sniffing it.

You been on bluelight for almost three years and you still dont know this? Thats terrible yo--why did you even come here if it wasnt for harm reduction info about drugs? being here that long there aint NO excuse to sniff hydros...Not only that , but the nasal bioavailability (BA is how available the drug is to your body when used in different ways) is LOWER THAN the oral! come on yo, do a little research.

Now...as far as the methadone goes....that is even worse to sniff than the hydro. Why? Becuz METHADONE comes on slow. It takes over an hour for you to really start to feel the effects. It takes 3-4 hours for the peak to come on. And sniffing it dont make it come on not even one little tiny bit faster than eating it. There is NO reason to sniff it. The oral BA of it is so high that its a waste to try and take it any other way--you already getting the most you possibly can get out of it, when you take it orally.

NOT EVERY PILL WILL GET YOU HIGHER IF YOU SNIFF IT.

ESPECIALLY PILLS LIKE VICODIN, PERCOCET, ETC--The actual oxy or hydro in the pill is less than 10% of the makeup of the pill--over 90% of it is either tylenol, or binders and fillers. YOU DONT WANT TO SNIFF THAT SHIT!!

IF YOU THOUGHT YOU GOT HIGH FROM DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.....YOU FELT THE HIGH BECUZ YOU GOT A NASAL DRIP THAT EVENTUALLY BROUGHT THE DRUG TO YOUR STOMACH, WHERE IT WAS PROCESSED AND THATS WHY YOU FELT THE HIGH, *NOT* FROM SNIFFING IT.

This shit is so fuckin basic yall, and yes this is basic drug discussion but for somebody who been here for 3 years and still dont know not to snort vicodin, there is somethin wrong with that. I aint tryin to be a hater and be all negative, but seein such ignorance on site devoted to learning about drugs, from a person who AINT new and been here for 3 years , is a lil disturbing. if you aint learned that in all this time you been here, WTF you been doin?8o
 
10mg of methadone can be lethal to someone who is opiate naive. It should never be given to an opiate naive individual.
 
Yeah, just pick one. Methadone, imo, is one of those real energetic and euphoric highs - just like hydrocodone except maybe 10 times better. It's hard to dose for some reason, though. Take too little and you won't feel anything. Take enough and you're flying high, high, high. So start low and ease your way up a half pill at a time. You'll know when you find the sweet spot, andthat's when you stop.
 
Sentience said:
10mg of methadone can be lethal to someone who is opiate naive. It should never be given to an opiate naive individual.
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I dont know how accurate that is. where is your source for that?

Methadone CAN be dangerous for opiate naieve people no doubt. Becuz its so potent, it aint the type of shit that a person new to opiates can afford to play around with. its kinda like the "big guns" of opiates, you dont bring that shit out for somebody with no tolerance. There aint no question about that, and it should be used VERY carefully by people who are new to it.

BUT--while 10mg might get a person w/no tolerance straight fucked up, I dont think its accurate to say that 10mg would or could kill them. A dose like that would most likely not be lethal. I think you might be exaggerating the harm of it a little bit. So, Id be interested to see your source for that info. And of course, if i am wrong I would like to be corrected so either way , post it if you got one.:)thanks
 
Have you ever known anyone who went straight to Methadone without first taking a pit stop with pods, vicodin, codeine, perhaps smoking heroin, or some other opiate?

I think opiate users have a tendency to drastically under estimate the power of opiates in opiate naive people.

10mg of hydrocodone will knock an opiate naive person the fuck out. After experimenting a few times in a row, it might not even get them buzzed.

5mg of oxycodone got my girlfriend really buzzed. She described it as being a little too strong for her own comfort, but she was also tired. 15mg for her might have been dangerous. 30 would probably do her in.

30mg for me is the minimum that takes my pain away. 60mg wouldnt kill me, though I might get knocked out. For somebody else, 60mg wont even get them buzzed.


For me personally, probably due to incomplete cross tolerance, 20mg daily of Methadone (which I have less tolerance for) is equal to about 90mg or more of morphine, as far as pain relief. I was prescribed 60mg daily, and I overdosed. I insulted my doctor, and now I am having a hard time getting any pain relief at all as I search for a pain doc.

I have seen it 100x, where people who have a tolerance like us are really out of touch which just how potent these drugs are in people who have never done opiates.



Then again, maybe he has a tolerance....but I would be cautious doing the vics after taking the methadone, because it will be in his system for a few days afterwards. 10mg on the first dose might make him nod, or worse, the second dose however might kick his ass.
 
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