Meth Trip (Meth + 2C-E & 2C-P vaporized)

[bloodshed344]

So, I'm currently on the tail end of a day-long meth binge and I decide to smoke a 2C-E and 2C-P joint. Well the results were really fun, not as euphoric as the meth itself but a lot more interesting. The psychedelic phenethylamines seem to be a good booster of perception when combined with methamphetamine. But anyway, soon after smoking the 2C-P and 2C-E I began to develop a heartbeat around 140-150. Why would the phenthylamines raise my heart rate to that level, when the meth had a much less noticeable effect. Of course synergy is involved, but how?

So, while that was the main point of the thread I also want to address how methamphetamine has boosted the psychedelic trip... in all ways (including bodyload which means the level of the psychedelic experience is limited by the cardiovascular/anxiety toll of the amphetamines and phenethylamines.)

But still, even with those drawbacks it adds a lot of good feeling to the trip... I imagine methamphetamine and something not as stimulating like 2C-C or AL-LAD would be amazing. Of course, meth + 2C-P is a great fun relaxed evening... no really I'm not being sarcastic.

So basically, what would explain this synergy between MDMA (not personally experienced) and Meth in psychedelics? Is it perhaps the intense release of serotonin causes the experience to have a much different character.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Meth would be alright to add to a trip, but not on the tail end of a binge, I'd want to start fresh.
Doing psychedelics during any sort of comedown or period where my body is physically and mentally drained, then I tend to has horribly uncomfortable trips.
Especially with 2c-p which would still last a decently long time when vaporized

As well I would attribute the synergy more or less to good feeling + good feeling = better feeling
Have you ever done blow on psyches? It feels AWESOME until the comedown hits
While meth and MDMA both cause serotonin release they don't all bind to the same receptors, if they did the serotonin bound to the receptors from the meth would prevent binding of the psychedelics to those receptors resulting in a diminishing of effects, as well it would cause meth to be psychedelic if the serotonin it released bound to the same receptors as psychedelics.

 

[bloodshed344]

Meth would be alright to add to a trip, but not on the tail end of a binge, I'd want to start fresh.
Doing psychedelics during any sort of comedown or period where my body is physically and mentally drained, then I tend to has horribly uncomfortable trips.
Especially with 2c-p which would still last a decently long time when vaporized

As well I would attribute the synergy more or less to good feeling + good feeling = better feeling
Have you ever done blow on psyches? It feels AWESOME until the comedown hits
While meth and MDMA both cause serotonin release they don't all bind to the same receptors, if they did the serotonin bound to the receptors from the meth would prevent binding of the psychedelics to those receptors resulting in a diminishing of effects, as well it would cause meth to be psychedelic if the serotonin it released bound to the same receptors as psychedelics.

I know all that I'm just wondering how the release of serotonin affects a psychedelic trip. Also a binge to me is when I've been doing it since I've woke up and I'm about to go to sleep. Not a week-long binge like you're picturing, more like 18-24 hours.

Why would the combination of meth and 2C-P raise my heartrate so much when neither does it much on it's own (well 2C-P usually makes my heart stay normal and sometimes even slower)

 

[TheAppleCore]

I combined LSD with meth once (at modest doses of each). The head-space was wonderful, but it was ruined by the fact that the meth made the LSD bodyload intolerably intense. I won't be repeating that one.

 

[bloodshed344]

I combined LSD with meth once (at modest doses of each). The head-space was wonderful, but it was ruined by the fact that the meth made the LSD bodyload intolerably intense. I won't be repeating that one.

Yeah, believe it or not the smooth high of the meth synergized perfectly with the smooth high of 2C-P. It was a body high trip and thoughts were dulled. More dreamy than normal.