By all accounts according to the DEA meth has become increasingly more pure in the last 10 years in the US according to seizure analysis. However, this is a bit contradictory to both my experience and almost all of the anecdotal experiences I've seen from others on BL and elsewhere. I am curious what causes this disparity or what is going on.
Cartels have switched back to using the p2p method of synthesis (aka "biker meth"), which is notorious for impurities namely in the creation of large amounts of L-methamphetamine. This can, however, be removed from the product but this can only be done by advanced methods and equipment which is not something a smaller level chemist might do.
I think it's important to distinguish between what the DEA is seizing/testing, and what the end users are smoking, what the low level dealer is selling.
I am particularly looking for opinions from people who have used meth both in the past and recently. It would also be relevant to share what part of the country you are from.
If you are from Canada or Mexico your answer might be relevant as well, but I'm most interested in the US.
Meth was usually pure d meth. Prices fluctuate but sometimes it is cut and usually with msm or else it’s easy to tell. People that smoke meth can tell easier because of the taste.
The DEA is fake in the television online version so are those shipments, they do this for attention and to make it seem like that whole government charade goes on. But if you make serious report about an endangered baby or theft or something without calling 911 like it’s an emergency nothing happens. And the politicians are pedophiles (who knows if they are or aren’t sometimes people just act childish with them, then we say oh well, we’ll get you free in the future if they don’t murder you like we reported may happen, or more group molestations taking pornographic naked images, the actual mafia is very strict, besides on other associates that may kill each other) so of course they want to take that baby away.
The DEA probably started selling the fake powdered bales for fake online news photo shoots and well he maybe didn’t try it and know that there’s no meth in there or they got a placebo by thinking they were going something that gets them high.
L methamphetamine is what is painful if it was pure or half and half, it’s the opposite enantiomer that your body will use, it has to flip each molecule to put it where it goes, and more starts pushing in there. Shoulder (or bone or joint or the pain is in the veins is ) common and head aches. Maybe you’ll feel high after it all gets into the dopamine receptors. They use to or still do put meth in absopure water bottles and the machines in workplaces. It was like ten milligrams of racemic half and half D-and L- methamphetamine in like 32 ounces of water. Not enough to get you high. But boy did they love blairing screamo metal rock music. Or they did a bit codeine so empire of the sun is on. It sucked if you wanted to sleep when you went home.
Everyone lived in one area to buy drugs like crack and oxycodone, not for grocery stores, those were new they started in like 2007. Or it wasn’t all simulations they were doing for the future because other places like Meijers were conglomerate stock pile warehouses for southern capitalism.
In the midwest it varies or well in metro Detroit, meth varies depending on who’s in town. Only certain people used it. All these hardware store home builder or remodelers loved using meth.
You may not really be able to find meth and if you do only one guy could find it because it’s a different group that uses it and talks to each other.
Cartels use to supposedly use pseudoephedrine that was manufactured in Asia. And Asia like pretended they sold heroin or mdma in online documentaries on YouTube. They’re all communist or consumers. They do try and do communism but they can’t unless done foreign person is organizing something that is going on there.
P2P meth wasn’t bad unless you were using p2p chemicals as in the methylamine being half of both enantiomers as well. So it becomes where it’s like the meth is 50 percent pure but painful instead of it being half cut and it’s hard to separate. Negative ions will flip l-meth into being d-meth. Or stirring the meth is isopropyl alcohol for 24 to 48 hours or less.
So like shake and bake meth was still as pure as other stuff depending on who did the cook and extraction. It was usually a hundred bucks a gram because they may get like only a gram for 50 bucks of pseudo but nope they just use it as well. I think they get as much meth as as much pseudoephedrine is in the pills because it’s a reduction of well that’s how it is in synthesises you have to have the right proportions of ingredients for each molecule of the precursor or how ever you’re doing it. So it’s like ten bucks and some lithium or other chemicals for around two and a half grams of meth. But meth had high sentences federally (even though the drug enforcement agency and prison is fake, all these conspirators would have all been in there instead of doing this on the internet in businesses and on tv with fake politics) but not through like counties or states. Most of these dudes are like low level drug dealers or regular white guys.
The original shake and bake recipe was for using ephedra extract and not ephedrine or pseudoephedrine. Ephedra is a plant that grows naturally and it is used to open the nostrils of as a natural stimulant it kind of looks like pot plants growing or a different shaped one. They use to or still do sell ephedra extract in the form of weight loss or diet pills. The point in the cold pack and other chemicals were to do a synthesis during or following a reduction.
If you got pseudoephedrine or ephedrine then you just need lithium and water, if it will dissolve and you just stir or swirl it around with the lithium in there for exactly twenty minutes if it’s ephedrine your using and exactly one hour if it’s pseudoephedrine your using, it’s a reduction so if you do it longer you may lose some of all of the molecules. Then you decant the water to stop the reaction by removing it from the lithium, it’s better to use glass jars with regular synthesis because of the catalyst but lithium is a reducer. Then you have to turn it into a base to remove it by sucking the oil off the top of the hot water and then turn it into an hcl salt.
You still want to dissolve if it will, it’s an hcl so it probably won’t, in acetone or vinegar to acetylate the methamphetamine molecule so it is euphoric like using heroin over morphine.
You all gave the cartels too much money for them to continue selling drugs, the original ones moved on to bring pedophiles kidnapping children like they were the whole time and trying to take over legitimate businesses while or with identities they stole to live in America. Who knows if actual just drug trafficking for money groups exist. That’s who was buying fast food and beer all the time.
I scored an 8 ball of pure cartel shards back in 2011 for 120 bucks I could have maybe paid less but it was already super cheap.
Meth use to be ten dollars a gram in 2005 and cocaine was like 30 bucks a gram top and it was pure but drugs were always kind of hard to find, but people found it for 15 but the blow wasn’t pure then.
These drinks actually contained methamphetamine at their launch or it was added or similar drugs were added.
So you calculate the price by adding up the cans to a gram worth of meth, originally Red Bull just had methamphetamine listed on the label and only adults could buy it. So pure or powdered meth has to be cheaper but the drugs may not always be or stay in the sodas and meth may not be that cheap based on supply and demand or a year not wanting to sell it. Sometimes gas stations added meth into them but the companies did put it in the sodas as well.
Red bull (25 mg in the small can)
Monster (15 mg in the regular can, monster import tasted better and so did the nitrous version)
Sobe (100mg, you may need 50 to 80 mg a day after your first use or two, so Red Bull sucked)
Mountain Dew and possibly other Pepsi products
Jolt sometimes contained it.
Rockstar Silver (probably others)
Rockstar recovery contained small amount of codeine
Rip its (the red contained amphetamine and the blue contained Ritalin, not sure about others)
Krogers house brand pop sometimes contained amphetamine or phenylalanine or something like it
Morton’s salt was commonly or always just pure methamphetamine but they changed the molecule because parasites or diseases as humans couldn’t use the phenyl ring version
Jiffy mix also contained meth and so did stuff like Hershey chocolate, Keebler crackers or possibly anything that contained Morton salt or anything Kroger brand (at one point it all had meth in it) and even other brands did it everything in stores.
There usually wasn’t enough to get you high besides eating a giant portion or drinking many bottles or cans. Like you would have to eat a whole box of jiffy mix.
Only sell all these drinks and drugs at night so there isn’t any issues, no one is nocturnal apparently.
Drug prices will fluctuate based on supply and demand and inflation and prices of other things unless they knew to keep drug prices really low or moderate but pill dealing and other drug stuff and prostitution is all that went on here because of party stores and gas stations. Not that much stuff was bought or consumed and doctors offices ruined everything, that’s why everything changed after Obama times slowly ended. They tried covering it all up or preventing everyone from using drugs after making the epidemic full blast. Meaning you could ask anyone if they knew or if they sold or wanted to buy heroin or other drugs that was standing some where or walking around or in a car. Even these larger older looking ladies wanted some pain medication or muscle relaxers or some crack or meth. Selling drugs was just selling drugs to anyone that just lived there or didn’t use them. It didn’t matter what anyone wanted and they may prefer selling certain ones or know certain ones sell better. Or people only buy certain ones, or certain ones at certain times, there’s gotta be parties or festivities going on for mdma to be being used or bought. Unless someone likes using it alone or sitting in groups.
Selling weed was no different or a big deal, they may get hassled more or less. People got hassled zero while selling pills.
People also sell cut or fake drugs with other drugs or different drugs as the main drugs or they sell vitamins or any powder as drugs. And they lie about purity. It’s sure not the same time period as 2015. But meth should still be pretty pure the shake and bake way. But anyone may cut the stuff anyways if they sell it at a higher price so people may talk them down and deal with lower purity drugs and try and separate it.
They also didn’t melt the meth into looking like glass shards, you heat it to its melting point then cool it down and then break it apart and it’s harder to cut without powdering it, some people like buying soft or powdered drugs.
