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Meth - Experienced - advice needed plz

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cule8960

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So this morning everything was going great. I had a enjoyable trip last nite and kept celebrating by eating a few shards. I remember walkin away from that celebration anoyed becuase , suspecting i would feel the effects right away, and to prove i liked the taste, i kept on eating more and more.. I got on the bus and a little over half way to my stop i am starting to feel high. I thought"took long enough" i believed a stomach full of weak shit was the issue. I was in the meantime climbing higher and higher and there was no stoping it(usually i would use self talk to calm myself down from badspice highs) i started shaking violently, like a shiver, then my skin got extremely sweaty and red. My heart was racing, i could not check my pulse becuase it was going to fast. I could barely talk becuase my mouth and throat were too dry (all this time i was trying too to keep my mind from breaking completely) ijust threw my stuff on the ground and l
lied down and was trying to ground myself as i yelled for help. Ambulance and all that came. I remmember the emt saying at one point my blood preasure was 190/130 pulse 179. From there came the most scariest moment ever. I lost touch with who i am. I remmember screaming like a girl. My trip peaked like 10 minutes i got into the ER. I didnt know why there were walls around me and i didnt recognize the nurses as people, i didnt kno what their purpose was for.-i dont know why i remmember this much- i came down HORRIBLEY in the er. That was the worst few hours i could of imagined. The weird part of this story is then when i was a level that i knew what meth was, i forgot huge chunks of time. As i try to remmember my time in the er it just seems i was wheeled in then im putting on my shirt to go. It seems like a dream. Five minutes gonefrom the er and i started to have the WORST deppression and utter hoplesdness i ever had. Not to mention i was so damn tired i had to stop at a bus station and sleep in a corner for a hour. Tired is to lite a term for what i felt. But when i laid down and closed my eyes i had flashbacks of when i was in the hospital and every time i would open my eyes and moan in utter panic(to tired to yell) i dont remnemberwaking up and i dont remmember when i started writing this post. I woke up in good spirits and even relaxed. I think as soon as i woke up i started writing this. Right now, im constantly reminding myself where i live. Everything seems like a dream world and not real. I assume itll pass tho. But surprisely, im very relaxed and even content right now. This was the first time i slept in six days, guesd i need it. Anyway, this has been one hell of a day.

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Yeah that's intense. Lucky you went to the ER. I knew someone that OD'd taking too much orally and when I used then that ROA had me racy the longest it seemed. I've had episodes I call "white-outs". I've blacked out on alcohol and some drug combos but on unlike those, on speed I would know what was going on in the moment and if triggered could recall things later but would have amnesia after coming down. I could remember details even when someone else prompted the memory but otherwise it would be a blur. Glad you survived to tell the tale!
 
Exactly. Screaming is often the last thing a person does before dying of a

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So jealous. Minus the whole ER thing.

EDIT: What type of advice do you need? Anyone would go psychotic after 5 nights of no sleep. It sounds to me like you were tweaking your ass off, possibly already psychotic before that point and then suffered a panic attack. You were probably not in that much danger. I personally have never managed to get through the third night and knowing how the body behaves at that point I become very sceptical when someone mentions his 'week with sleep' or in your case six days. No offense. How could last even have been enjoyable when you had not slept in the past 5 days? Wtf?! No shadow people? No issues with your eyes? No muscle tension? Did you even shower during that entire time?! :D
 
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It was enjoyable the first few days but after that it was like damn i m tweaking bad. I was seeing things and overall feeling liken crap. I kept on taking more and more expecting every time to be like the very first. I was completely out of my mind and gone. I never touched the stuff since that time. Never touched anything actually. Scared straight? No probably not, but I got too close to lesson my body up and plus I gotta get off DOC.
 
Holy Shit! I believe you fucked up after having an "enjoyable trip last nite and kept celebrating by eating a few shards." This shit is like Vegas baby, once you are up get the fuck out!!! The body should be commended for providing an enjoyable trip, but to readminister without allowing the body any rest will seriously fuck you.

I think this is what everyone grapples with though. In the moment, with all that energy, with all those shards.... It's like: "Fuck it!" I completely understand that and have been in the same boat bro. ...A bad comedown made me finally realize that I can only administer once, whatever the quantity may be .5g 1g, etc.... and then leave it the fuck alone. No more grabbing the pipe or busting down rails two hours later...

Anyways, it's just a blessing you made it bro. Be safe out there!
 
Damn! That sounds terrifying! I quit meth 8 months ago but have used a bit over the night(1 point at most, smoked) and I get fucked anxiety just from that. I do think that you were kind of asking for it though with how long you were awake for. I'd be a psychotic mess after 2 days! I can't use it with any regularity anymore as even the smallest amount effects my whole life in every way. I don't know if it's just me but this particular drug does not agree with me physically and mentally/emotionally/spiritually. Stay safe and don't do something that silly again please! :-)
 
Yeah i agree i was asking for it. It was very stupid for me to keep taking that much, i will never do that much again. as with you saying you cant use it like before, I was talking to a drug counselor the other day and she said that once you have a break from reality like that then your brain is altered forever and will always break with reality when exposed to that particular substance again. I do not really agree with that cause i "lost" myself a few times but i guess the point she was trying to make was to be careful. And yes i will be more careful in the future lol.
 
Ive never used methamph but wouldnt 1g be completely insane if it was anywhere near pure? I just know if i take pharm adderall or something, i wouldnt even go above like 60mg and thats the high end... I really do wonder how that translates with 1g of street meth...

Cause if you did 1000mg of adderall, thatd be insane. Or to account for lets say 80% pure meth, 800mg

Again, i am not a tweaker but i do really wonder
 
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Ive never used methamph but wouldnt 1g be completely insane if it was anywhere near pure? I just know if i take pharm adderall or something, i wouldnt even go above like 60mg and thats the high end... I really do wonder how that translates with 1g of street meth...

Cause if you did 1000mg of adderall, thatd be insane. Or to account for lets say 80% pure meth, 800mg

Again, i am not a tweaker but i do really wonder
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As a former tweaker 1g smoked over hours is typical. An eight ball (3.5g) is a weekend party for one even high quality. By weight it's more like coke than adderall.
 
Smoked is not very efficient though right? I was under the impression that mg by mg methamphetamine is slightly more potent in respect to subjective effects. I also thought that street meth is anything but pure. 1g of amphetamine phosphate is absolutely insane. I once injected 600mg of relatively pure amphetamine phosphate (I estimate 90%) and could not even read anymore my vision was so fucked. I've taken a lot of amphetamine and even 200mg orally administered is way more than the average joe can take without being worried about not surviving the whole ordeal.
 
The thing is, pure methamphetamine is MORE potent than adderall or pure dex-amphetamine. So doing 1 gram of meth is like doing more than 1 gram of dexamp. Of course tolerance is a crazy thing and also users are tending to try to get way more spun on meth than they are on adderall. Also I think it probably points to most meth being pretty impure.

I smoked meth 3 times and each time I just took a few hits, I can't estimate on how much that is but it's WAY, WAY less than a gram, maybe I dunno, 60mg or something? It was a small amount, but I was more amped out than I have ever been on adderall and I've taken a lot of a lot of that. People don't start at a gram in a night or 3.5 grams for a weekend, that's for sure. You have to build up to that, but tolerance to serotonergic substances like ampetamines is a real thing and can grow very high quite quickly with frequent use.
 
I never tried adderal or anything else besides meth, speed wise that is. Im a novice when talking about quantities of speed. My big thing is spice.
 
Do you plan to change your relationship to this drug or do you just continue the glory path of self-rectification ? Honest question. Perhaps you can visit a psychiatrist, that weens you off of meth with the help of Vyvanse or similar.

I'm also prone to stimulant binges, so I'm glad I never had meth or benzos for the comedown. It would spiral out of control in record time.
 
Ya i havent really touched meth in a while. If i ever do it again, and most likely i will, i will forever be very careful how much i take. This has been a learning experience for me. And this forum has alot of great info that i learned.
 
I know the feeling of stim craving, but considering your really bad experience, you should try to stay away from it for as long as possible. Perhaps abstain from uppers for a while in general to let your receptors readjust.
 
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