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Stimulants Meth, basic quesiton

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okay, so this is going to be my first time trying ice.
my buddy in toronto tells me his link has "crystals with a teal tinge"
now, when i look it up, i see clear to white crystals.

i was wondering if this is properly made or not. i dont wanna be ingesting dirty ice
and what should i be looking for in case its dirty?
 
You can't tell just from looking at it how pure it is. I have had shit that looked like coke (looked like baking powder/sugar) and it was some of the best I have ever had. I have had PURE, CLEAR crystals that absolutely suck.
 
well he claims they're pretty amazing,

just generally speaking though is meth suppose to have a bluish tinge to it?
and no i dont mean breaking bad blue lol
 
Dude, I have alot of experience and pretty soon mods will come on and back me up...it can look fucking red, purple, whatever and still have high quality levels.

Some people will say that clear, solid crystals means it's the best, but that's bullshit and has been disproved by my experiences.
 
Certain brands of lye based cleaners have artificial colorings, which could come out in the final product.

Was it about this color?
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^ Hahahaha. Harm Reduction FTW.

Edit: In all seriousness though, KNB's post is THE reason not to do meth.
Methamphetamine is an extremely toxic substance, regardless of "purity." It's the only drug I've found that noticeably damages your body from one use.

According to this site: http://www.lynnpolice.org/ingredients_of_meth.htm
Here are some of the ingredients in street meth:

- Lye
- Anhydrous Ammonia
- Iodine
- Red Phosphorous (usually taken from many red matches)
- Ephedrine
- Ether
- Drano
- Brake Fluid
- Lighter fluid
- Hydrochloric acid

If for whatever reason you're unsure of why any of these substances are bad for you, the link above clearly explains.

How does this relate to your question, OP? Well I guess my point is with these kind of ingredients, teal color is the least of your worries. There is no such thing as "clean" ice, it's all dirty.

And I'm not some anti-drug, "Just Say No" propaganda pusher. I used use smoke crystal as a teen. I would use once a month for 1-3 days. I could feel my stomach and feel holes where there was muscle eaten away, the enamel was stripped teeth and I still have a chipped tooth from it, the times I snorted it resulted in damage to my nose so when I brush my teeth toothpaste ends up in my nose, and I'm still suffering from anxiety. The comedowns were so horrendous I thought I was dying but meth always plays tricks with your head and a week later you're just remembering the high.

I'm an ex-heroin addict and as filthy as black tar heroin and as much as it ruined it my life I would pick it up again in a second rather than use crystal even once.

Not trying to ruin your fun, but I wish someone had told me that meth really is the demon everyone says so and there's no exaggerating how corrosive and just toxic it is to your body. It's essentially poison.
 
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I remember hearing one meth user in a documentary say "the whole thing is an impurity". She eventually quit in the documentary, I wonder how she's doing today.

Anyways, I'm going to advise you do not use methamphetamine.
 
Yeah, basing quality off one one tell tale "rule" for a drugs psychical appearance usually isn't a good idea because a lot of things can change that. I've had shit that looked like garbage be amazing and vice versa.

And good post rhun. The fact that people are readily ingesting those chemicals you listed by using meth is truly scary.
 
It's definitely true^. I remember the best blow I ever had looked like the most cut up crap that's ever been sold. When I got the bag (it was HUGE for a fifty piece) I assumed it was going to be complete crap and did about a 1/4 of the whole thing in one shot...big mistake.

Judging drugs on the way they look is usually a bad indicator of their quality. Of course if a powder doesn't have an even consistency that usually means something is up, but not always. However, with crystal meth I'm pretty sure that the color would be due to the coloring of one of the ingredients that wasn't properly filtered out, or couldn't be. The few times I've used crystal methamphetamine it looked like fine glass shards, all though one time it also looked exactly like powder cocaine.. So like I said, looks aren't a good indicator with drugs. If you're going to go by a sense to determine the quality/identity of a street substance, smell is usually a bit more accurate, but once again-not fool proof by far.
 
I had slightly green speed once and damn if it wasn't the best speed I ever had... I've also had pink speed of some varying quality. Though I prefer if my drugs are not colored too much, it always feels wrong to shoot up a red/green liquid. Don't know why it feels more wrong than shooting up #3 heroin that looks like you took water and mixed it with mud but it does, for some reason.
 
rhun said:
^ Hahahaha. Harm Reduction FTW.

Edit: In all seriousness though, KNB's post is THE reason not to do meth.
Methamphetamine is an extremely toxic substance, regardless of "purity." It's the only drug I've found that noticeably damages your body from one use.

According to this site: http://www.lynnpolice.org/ingredients_of_meth.htm
Here are some of the ingredients in street meth:

- Lye
- Anhydrous Ammonia
- Iodine
- Red Phosphorous (usually taken from many red matches)
- Ephedrine
- Ether
- Drano
- Brake Fluid
- Lighter fluid
- Hydrochloric acid
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Yea meth is dirty and will fuck your shit up for sure, but I need to say that most of those chemicals are pretty standard solvents and reagents used in most drug synths. While impurities in street meth is definitely an issue, Im reminded of D.A.R.E. style scare tactics when I see people spout off a list of chemicals and be like "these are the ingredients". Its kind of misleading to someone that has no chemistry knowledge. Things like ether, lye, hydrochloric acid etc are used to make things that everyone ingests everyday.

Even if your meth is 100% pure, METHAMPHETAMINE IS BAD FOR YOU. Regardless of the chemicals that might be left over from the synth.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
That's certainly true but meth in particular has some pretty nasty shit in it..things you wont usually ever find in something like street heroin.
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Such as? Heroin is made with equally "nasty" chemicals. Calcium hydroxide, ammonium chloride, sulfuric acid, hydrochloric acid, acetic anhydride etc... If you think heroin is cleaner than meth you're kidding yourself. Any clandestinely produced drug is going to have nasty shit in it. Methamphetamine itself is damaging to your body. I'd be more worried about what the actual drug is doing to you rather than the small amount of leftover synth impurities.


BTW, for anyone that doesnt know:
Drano is sodium hydroxide (lye)
Brake cleaner is dichloromethane
Lighter fluid is naphtha

These are standard materials for carrying out basic chemical reactions. Anti-drug campaigns like you to think "omg when you do meth you're smoking drain cleaner!".
 
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Meth is Deffinatly dirtier than heroin from knowing people who cheffed meth for years and even processed some heroin at home if you follow old Afghanistan methods its very close to a no chemical process
 
bongerman said:
if you follow old Afghanistan methods its very close to a no chemical process
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Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Im familiar with both heroin and meth synths and I really dont think meth is inherently any dirtier than any other street drug. And heroin is notoriously impure. Why do you think most dope is brown and smells like vinegar?
 
dogda said:
These are standard materials for carrying out basic chemical reactions.
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Indeed. Chemistry is not like baking, you don't just throw shit in there and come out with the final product.

scagnettie said:
That's certainly true but meth in particular has some pretty nasty shit in it..things you wont usually ever find in something like street heroin.
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Can you cite that? Out here we get BTH, and coke is full of levamisole...meth in particular has the least nasty shit in it.
 
Lol, this meth has drain cleaner in it shit has been around forever. Just cause it used xx in the manufacture process doesn't mean.. blah whatever you know, old news, we all know. Anyways, i like the idea of dangerous chemicals and risk of blowing your face off being needed to deliver me some chemical happiness. Makes you appreciate it more since some nice man risked all that just to brighten up your day. True heroes.

There are tons of other things we take every day that was made with scary shit, but i cant think of even one example though i think coke (cola) tops the scary chart. Alcohol could also prob clean a drain or brake if it had to, and thats the end product, not just in the process.

It does have the best propaganda campaign though. I remember being 7yo and being told in school not to do the crystal meth which for years i thought meant not to eat crystallized purple methylated spirits. Duh i said.

That beats acid by far which was only lied about in high school, at which point i was left puzzled for a few years wondering why people take shit called acid (Bad sign #1) that made you think your limbs where food and eat yourself and then jump of buildings thinking you could fly.

From a purely current meth user selfish pov meth has the fortunate quality that its not to easy to make so as to make it cheap and reasonably pure when it gets to you but not to easy that any idiot could be the supplier and poison your ass, like mcat. Of course this makes it a nightmare for every... dont care....

Anyways back on topic, i heard on another post here a while back that you could determine quality by looking at the straightness of the grain or some shit, not sure, but the discussion looked like it was somewhat accurate. I tried this and then realized fast that it was easier just checking quality by eating it

Lastly on quality, today i got some stuff that looked similar, but was in big chunks, like they didnt even care enough to crush it up for me the cheap bastards, bad sign... But it was far better then usual, so you never know...

Just one thing i always wondered about. If its crystal your getting, cutting is usually less likely since its difficult once its synthed correct, meaning bad shit in it is bad manufacturing usually right? How would you cut it into the crystal and is this common practice. Always wondered about that.

And all drugs are bad for you, not just meth. Some would say its safe enough to be prescribed in a similar form by doctors to kids but thats more an argument to run and hide based on what doctors prescribe these days...
 
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