I get the sense from that you don't understand the difference between fact and subjective opinion
I don't or you don't? This is how you presented it:
The truth is that meth counteracts the effects of dmt and other psychedelic tryptamines.
You didn't present that as a subjective opinion. My personal experiences are actually mixed here with your opinion on the matter. If I'm tripping and I smoke DMT, it interferes but also gives me anxiety and uncomfortable hypertension. If I'm on methamphetamine, and yes we're talking about high-percent d-isomer meth (the only l-isomer meth on the blackmarket will be at racemic level, tops, but I agree that it's the major contaminant of today's meth), and I vaporize DMT, I can blast off, break through, throw dice with the machine elves, and be back to that meth high in a matter of minutes. I will say that, for me, DMT reverses the property of most stimulants that increases urinary retention, and I've learned to empty my bladder first. But I digress.
And I wonder if it's unwise and mildly dangerous to suggest "meth counteracts the effects of dmt and other psychedelic tryptamines"? Let's say someone is tripping too hard on a high dose of 4-AcO-DMT; its effect on norepinephrine is causing tachycardia, and the person is starting to panic. Giving that person meth to "counteract" the 4-AcO-DMT would be a bad idea. How about a combination chart?
why in the actual fuck would I just spout off
I have no clue. I don't know you, and you've only posted a few things. I'm not trying to pick on you; I just strive to help ppl with harm reduction, and it's often a matter of semantics; words matter. I agree that if I'm tripping hard and I take a hit of meth, I'm no longer tripping hard. The meth sorta takes over, except it's a shitty meth high riddled with anxiety and tachycardia. The only psychedelic so far that I can say isn't affected in this same way, for me, is n,n-DMT, although I will say that the effects of the meth kinda do fold into the DMT trip in a particular way, and if I'm tweaked out, it's a bit harder to move past what some call the waiting room when smoking/vaping DMT. This is not the same as, say, the counteracting effects of a benzodiazepine on psychedelics. Combining stims and psychedelics is often unpleasant in a synergistic manner. DMT is an exceptional tryptamine though, in my opinion, which might explain why I don't find the same poor interaction with it and meth, though caution is still advised.
unodelacosa your "facts" are nonsensical and seem poser ish in nature
Not using the at-reply function when you talk shit is kind of a bitch move,
@thrashedapple2211, but I'll cut you some slack since you're still a noob-ish Greenlighter and put it on good faith that you were not in fact being a bitch with that shit-talking. As far as the
actual shit-talking goes, the ultra-inspired, cut-me-to-the-quick poser comment from that acerbic wit of yours, well I guess I struck some kinda nerve with you, so you're striking back as best you know how. I really just don't give a fuck what you think about me beyond to say that I wasn't trying to make you defensive, and I'd rather we just call it bygones instead of getting into a petty back-and-forth that no one wants to read… My messages and reactions received speak for themselves. You have yet to post much, and all I know about you is that you had a problem using meth, you take criticism poorly and personally, no offense, and you lash out at people you don't know. I'll offer this one time and hope that we can move on: I apologize if I inadvertently offended you.
On the reals, this subject fascinates me. Having used both DMT and meth in the past, how many times have you done this combination, and when you do, have you ever noticed the aforementioned bladder thing where as soon as the DMT hits, you suddenly gotta piss like a mofo, but didn't initially realize it bc you were on meth or another stim? It's really not fun flying into the bathroom while nearly fully lit on DMT. Or are you personally unable to trip
at all whilst on meth? There's no doubt that meth acts as a moderately potent serotonin releasing agent, as well as a dopamine and norepinephrine RA. The serotonergic effects of psychedelics are
impacted by a drug like meth, though this is not synonymous with "canceled out". My concern is that we don't give off the impression that the combined dopaminergic and—in particular—adrenergic effects are somehow simply negated by DMT or any ol' tryptamine you might have sitting around. Do you see what I'm saying? I agree with your core tenet—after all, the 5-HT impact is a big differentiator between amphetamine and methamphetamine—I just want to expound on that and refine the message to reflect that stims will fuck up a good classical psychedelic trip, just not through pure counteraction, but rather a shifting of gears into an adrenaline-pumping, often-uncomfortable dopamine buzz, and an overall shitty high, at least in my experiences. The exception, for me, is DMT, which while affected by meth, is neither negated nor mitigated by its effects, in my personal experience. YMMV, as always, so let's avoid knee-jerk, shit-slinging reactions if we happen to disagree.
