Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only - V.2: MERGED with amps quitting thread

[Pillthrill]

Does that mean you are done? Totally?! I hope so. My stint was bad enough, thank god I started listen to you all. I could have fucked up shit BAD

 

[Libby]

it means i've been dabbling a little like a point once every two weeks sort of thing, but really come to hate it now. im not going to do again, im on it now, i thought it could make me skinny and make me clean my room,... but i dont want to fucking clean my room... i cant, i hate hate hate cleaning... it used to help me with that shit... it used to help me confidence to talk to people, now it makes me rambly and strange and paranoid to talk to most people.... and i started it to be skinny, and i am currently the heaviest i've ever been 58kg on my 167cm, i was 47kg before i started so obviously the weightloss thing isnt working long term either.... it just sucks, and i have a wrinkle, around my eye, i can see where as i get older its going to threak out into millions of wrinkles. ond some guy thought i was 25, and i am not 25, ugh.... anyway... yeah me no likey

 

[motiv311]

I just was offered meth last night. Said no, and politely excused myself. I have an adderall RX, so that helps. but it doesn't compare to a clean meth rolll.

Adderall also got me off opiates somehow? ? they seemed to help so much.

 

[unaware]

I was once horribly addicted to crystal meth 10 years ago.

I still cant believe how I was able to get off as easily as I did. I was only 15 at the time and it ruined my life. At first it was fun and I loved blowing dragons every so often. It than turned to smoking every single day. I would be up for a week at time and finally crash.

It got to the point where, I would never sleep and I would just power nap for 10-30 minutes a day. This had horrible effects on my mental health and body. When I awoke from these power naps, I recall feeling like an old man. I would wake up confused and not knowing where I was. People would wake me up and I would have no idea who they were and what they want for the first 30 mins or so I would be awake. I recall waking up to go to school unaware of anything and I would put on my pants backwards and put my shoes on the wrong side. I laugh about it now, but it was no laughing matter at the time.

I was a really good kid before I started messing with meth. I had good grades, good friends, and a good job. What kid in high school was making $12/hour working as an assistant manager at a retail chain? I had it all until I started running with the wrong crowd.

I ended up losing my true friends, my girlfriend, my job, and trust from my family. When the money ran out I started to steal from my mom. I would go into her purse and steal money every night. When there wasn't money in her wallet, I than turned to selling my stuff. Before I knew it, the only thing left in my room was a bed and nothing else. I sold practically everything I could get my hands on. On top of that, I started to accrue debt to my dealers. When I had nothing else left to sell, I started pawning off stuff around the house. Whatever had value, I was selling it. I couldn't believe what I had turned into. I literally lost everything including my family and I was kicked out of the house.

I wish I could give tips on how to stay clean but this was 10 years ago. I literally hit rock bottom and I think my inspiration to quit was my family. I was only 15 and already being disowned and no one trusted me. That really hurt me enough to finally put down that glass pipe after over a year of abuse.

I was able to get off by smoking a shitload of weed everyday to the point of smoking myself stupid. I've been a pothead ever since. 10 years of smoking pot every single day without missing a beat and I am now on Day 5 of sobriety. People say weed isn't addictive? Wish they were right.

I visited my hometown for Thanksgiving and ran into a buddy that I use to smoke with. I pity him. Hes only 25 but he looks like hes 50. Hes lost half his teeth and hes just a complete mess. Talking to him is like talking to a wall. I ask him a question and he responds with something completely different. Hes really jittery and makes no sense at all. To anyone whose just getting into it, QUIT NOW!! You wont realize it until its too late and the damage is done.

I wish everyone a successful recovery! Life awaits you when you do.

 

[Dr. Funkenstien]

thank you everyone who posted. this was very good for me to read. day 3. my lungs hurt. im not tired. i feel normal. something needs to change cause I worked too damned hard to blow it again. i see where it can go now. thanks again for your sharing your experiences im finding them helpful.

 

[Sweet P]

^ You'll find testing kits available to buy on the net. The basic ones usually test for alcohol, opiates, benzos, cannabis, and amphetamines. But you can also buy more advanced kits that cover a wider range of drugs, and their derivatives.

 

[rangrz]

I don't believe you have any proficiency in organic chemical synthesis; enjoy your third degree burns.

the standard P/HI reductive ephedrine process is very simple chemistry and only ëxplosive''when carried out by persons severely deficient in skill in a poorly equipped facility.

i'm all for helping quit their addiction to a substance, but that doesn't have to include false information about it, or its manufacturing process.

 

[mrs_mia_wallace]

I think I want to get off this shit.

I really don't even enjoy getting high on this drug anymore, I just do it for maintenance. But I really don't feel like I can quit amphetamines cold turkey. Has anyone had experience of doctors prescribing Adderall or Ritalin or something similar for people getting off meth?

 

[Sweet P]

^ I'm not sure how it works in the States, but over here in NZ there isn't any substitute available. Opiate addicts can get methadone or suboxone, but meth addicts get zilch. I'm currently about 5 days clean, and have been self-medicating on benzos (a shitload of clonazepam and diazepam) to take the edge off the withdrawals. It's helping, but not completely.

 

[mrs_mia_wallace]

Yeah that's what I thought. I used to have an Adderall prescrip but it got taken away when I become sick with anorexia. And when my psychiatrist found out I was doing coke he told me he'd never prescribe me stims again (I'm with a new doctor now).

I have a guy who I can buy it off of, but it would be expensive and my whole hope
was to get off using drugs illegally.

 

[Process]

Yeah that's what I thought. I used to have an Adderall prescrip but it got taken away when I become sick with anorexia. And when my psychiatrist found out I was doing coke he told me he'd never prescribe me stims again (I'm with a new doctor now).

I have a guy who I can buy it off of, but it would be expensive and my whole hope
was to get off using drugs illegally.

That would be unwise...your kicking a meth habbit. It's all emotional withdraw, what you need is some antidepressant. Talk with your doctor. And doctors wont prescribe you stimulants if your trying to kick meth.

They will give you meds (prob benzos) to help you sleep at night.

My doctor gave me bupropion its the new drug doctors been giving to coke/meth addicts and has a high success rate.

If you really want to stop, you will tell your doctor your health issue (meth addiction) and they will give you resources and meds to help. and addys are a shit stimulant unless you have adhd or never had a stronger stim.

 

[Vladimir777]

^ I'm not sure how it works in the States, but over here in NZ there isn't any substitute available. Opiate addicts can get methadone or suboxone, but meth addicts get zilch. I'm currently about 5 days clean, and have been self-medicating on benzos (a shitload of clonazepam and diazepam) to take the edge off the withdrawals. It's helping, but not completely.

Congrats on getting clean, Sweet P. You planning on staying quit? I had read your thread about how you weren't doing too good lately....

 

[Sweet P]

^ It was mainly the drama last Wednesday that prompted me to try to quit. I had a meth psychosis and several cop cars were called out to cuff me and take me downtown, before they transferred me to hospital for an anti-psychotic to calm me down. Plus I'm also facing a number of drug charges from a previous incident! I'm not sure how long I'll manage to stay clean (the cravings are killing me!) but hopefully I'll be strong enough to resist.

 

[dizzychainsaw]

I have been clean for almost a month now! My doctor prescribed me paxil and ativan. They are helping a lot with the depression, anxiety, and cravings. I have been staying away from anyone that associates with the drug.

 

[Sweet P]

^ Well done! Staying away from drug contacts is a good idea.

The trouble for me is that contacts and gang members are really the only people I know.

 

[dizzychainsaw]

Yeah I've been lonely and bored but I just keep telling myself that it is better than the alternative. I'm still very paranoid and am seeing things out of the corner of my eye that aren't real. I don't know if that is normal after being clean for a month but I am hoping it will pass with time.

I have been trying to keep myself busy cleaning the house, drawing, being online, watching TV, and playing video games. Basically anything to keep me from wanting to go use. The people I thought I was friends with are still using and they have no desire to talk to anyone who isn't. I guess that is for the best and they aren't really my friends anyway. I am going to try to make amends with my sober friends that I lost due to my last run.

My last run scared me to death. I thought I was overdosing and went to the hospital. In reality, I had done a good bit but I was suffering from meth psychosis as well. I don't have insurance so now I have some steep hospital bills to remind me of the damage meth can do. At the hospital they did a EKG and told me it was just a little high. They gave me 2 mg of Ativan to calm me down and observed me for 4 hours or so. Then they let me go home with a prescription for Ativan and told me to follow up with my doctor.

I followed up with my doctor for my anxiety and depression. She prescribed me the paxil and gave me the name of a mental health clinic nearby that takes payments based on your income. Now that the holidays are over I am going to see if I can get an appointment there.

I have been feeling down on myself lately because I quit my job and it is proving to be harder than I thought to find another one. I feel like such a loser when I'm not working. I am also not sure if I am going to be able to go to school for the spring semester since I owe the college money. I worked so hard to get my life together but it seems like it is falling apart even though I am sober. I thank God for my sobriety!

I read about your recent troubles Sweet P and I hope everything works out for you!

 

[Sweet P]

^ The visuals and paranoia should pass with time. How long and how heavily were you using, if you don't mind me asking? Keeping busy is important... that's what I'm trying to do, but I'm feeling so depressed at the moment I'm struggling to do anything at all. If I didn't have my benzos to relieve the anxiety and jitters, I think I'd be forced to return to using.

 

[dizzychainsaw]

I was using occasionally, like once or twice a year for a few years. Then in 2008 I was using pretty heavily for a few months then quit for a year. Then this past year I started using once or twice a month then on my last run I was using about a gram a day for a few weeks.

I was addicted before I even realized it. My addiction didn't get as bad as some peoples but even though I wasn't using as much as others, it still had a grip on me and was causing problems in my life.

 

[Sweet P]

^ I think you should be alright. You've had some good breaks throughout your usage which may have helped to minimise any damage. Meth addiction certainly is very sneaky... I was also addicted before I realised. I thought I could quit whenever I wanted to, until one day I tried and found that I couldn't!

 

[Vladimir777]

^ It was mainly the drama last Wednesday that prompted me to try to quit. I had a meth psychosis and several cop cars were called out to cuff me and take me downtown, before they transferred me to hospital for an anti-psychotic to calm me down. Plus I'm also facing a number of drug charges from a previous incident! I'm not sure how long I'll manage to stay clean (the cravings are killing me!) but hopefully I'll be strong enough to resist.

Yeah, I read about some of that craziness in your thread. I'm glad at least that it put you into the mindset of quitting. I don't have too much experience with meth, but a few weeks ago I went on a pretty bad IV heroin, meth, and crack binge. I had never done so much meth before--I stayed up for several days, and by the end I went into what was I guess meth psychosis. I was talking to people that weren't there and then they'd vanish and the scene would change in my head, and I'd think what the hell was I doing? I was doing this constantly in front of my parents on the morning of a day where I had work, just being very sloppy and losing my mind, and eventually my mom was like you can't drive to work so drove me there. I kept telling her I just had taken too much NyQuil the night before. It's just really out of place, because if you saw me, I'm the least likely person to be doing shitty stuff like this to myself. I don't hang out with druggie people, I barely even go out to party.

But yeah, after shooting some big doses of meth, over and over, I can see the addictive pull. I crave it from time to time, and I hope I don't go back to it. My first pull is always towards IV coke/speedballs, but the meth rush, ugh.... Whatever, I'm trying to quit all three of those this year. I hope everyone in here is doing alright!