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MET vs EPT: Friendliest Simple/Base Tryptamine

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For those of you that are experienced with both, which do you think is the most easy-going? I have tried both, but I'm stumped when it comes to deciding which one is better natured. They're both so good-natured!
 
It's somewhat dose-dependent, of course. I have heard that MET can be a bit challenging at higher doses, but that's not been my experience. I don't think enough people have reported back in EPT at high doses for there to be much to go off of.

If you feel like DMT, DET, DPT, aMT, NMT, MiPT, DiPT, EiPT, etc. would be a better candidate, go right ahead. I wish Bluelight had a poll function
 
I was really sold on MET for a second there; "reported to be considerably more stimulating, grounded, and less jarring than the head space of DMT, which has led some to describe it as a more recreational variant of DMT."

Sign me up for that god damn. But, reading around here people were saying its even more nasty to smoke than DMT and leaves your mouth tastings of dmt for days, thats enough for me to steer clear.
 
I haven't minded vaporizing it, but reports of others finding it to be caustic concern me quite a bit. A lot of people seem to prefer it by IM, but that's too much trouble for me to bother with it. I guess there's always RIMA potentiation, but I haven't explored that. I personally can see similarities to DMT me, but the comparison have me entirely the wrong idea going into it. For me, DMT is several orders of magnitude more engrossing. Kind of like how people have said that 2C-B is like a mix of LSD and MDMA (but it's nothing like a combination of the two.)
 
I have only tried DMT, MiPT, DPT and MPT of the base tryptamines, but I find MPT to be very chill and friendly, by far the most out of the ones I've tried. Great stuff.
 
I haven't tried MET yet, but out of DMT, DPT, MiPT, DiPT, MALT, DALT, EPT and MPT I would second MPT being the most friendly. Second place probably goes to EPT though. I found most of the effects of EPT to have some kind of ceiling - going from 80mg to 120mg (plugged) seemed to only increase memory issues and confusion without increasing the intensity of visuals, feeling, etc.
 
Yeah, I definitely got the impression that pushing the dosage with EPT gets you nothing but more side effects and confusion. I've heard the same is true of its 4-substitutions
 
Wow, I would never have guessed. Shame I wrote that one off, it seems! Still, I wonder how it compares to EPT and MET, the two friendliest I've come across. I combined vaporized MET with a somewhat underwhelming oak 2C-B experience not long ago, and it was the perfect accompaniment. I pretty much always find that mixing psychedelics generally causes than the fight rather than blend while increasing side effects. Not so with this. I don't think I'll take 2C-B again without MET if I can help it. They really evened out the other's inadequacies
 
I would second MPT being the most friendly. Second place probably goes to EPT though.

I wonder how the structurally similar DPT compares, after reading these comments that parallel the ones in this thread:

"IME it doesn't seem very much like DMT at all."

"it has a warm tryptamine feel. it's nice. i enjoyed it. i didn't break through though so it wasn't like the face-to-face meeting with god you hear about with it."

"it's nothing like LSD or anything else i've tried, and i've got about 30 years experience with psychedelics. it felt really gentle honestly. maybe it's different when you take more."

millzy  2026-05-19  Shroomery: #29580046 & #29580796
 
I must have never seen this post.

Ive tried several base tryptamines. I would say MPT, MET, DET, DIPT, DPT, DMT in order of intensity.

I much preferred MET over MPT or DET. It was the warmest and most wholesome feeling of all the base tryptamines. I really tried to push dosage w it too, i think highest was 100mg smoked. It too seemed** to have a ceiling effect. No aliens or anything similar found.

MPT was nice and i suppose comparable to MET, but i found it maybe a bit more.. bland?

DPT was not what i was expecting personally. I was expecting it to be full on immersive like DMT, but even high dose it never got visually textured like DMT does.

DIPT i really liked, tho the audio component is very real/strange. Out of all the base tryptamines, DIPT had the nicest tactile effects followed by MET.

Ill probably try MIPT eventually.
 
I must have never seen this post.

Ive tried several base tryptamines. I would say MPT, MET, DET, DIPT, DPT, DMT in order of intensity.

I much preferred MET over MPT or DET. It was the warmest and most wholesome feeling of all the base tryptamines. I really tried to push dosage w it too, i think highest was 100mg smoked. It too seemed** to have a ceiling effect. No aliens or anything similar found.

MPT was nice and i suppose comparable to MET, but i found it maybe a bit more.. bland?

DPT was not what i was expecting personally. I was expecting it to be full on immersive like DMT, but even high dose it never got visually textured like DMT does.

DIPT i really liked, tho the audio component is very real/strange. Out of all the base tryptamines, DIPT had the nicest tactile effects followed by MET.

Ill probably try MIPT eventually.
MET feels so lovely to me. I really wish that it actually went further the direction that it's headed. Or that it was more affordable to try at higher doses.

MPT being bland might be hit or miss. I've had rich, baroque experiences with the four substitution a couple times followed by utterly bland ones. The same might end up being true of the base.

And agreed about DPT. It almost bears more resemblance to a 4-sub to me in some ways
 
I've tried DMT, MET, DET, MPT, EPT, DPT, MiPT & DiPT.

I found MET better and more of a full psychedelic than EPT. For me EPT was a very mild, barely psychedelic experience. Even at 120mg (plugged) it produced less vusuals or psychedelic headspace than a good edible would. EPT is very similar to me to 5F-MET

I quite liked MPT, it had really cool visuals of big spaces with collumns, and my body felt like a full body orgasm both times i took it. Felt a feminine presence on it as well, but it always was a friendly controllable trip. MPT vapor is horrible tho, I do not recommend.

So, IME, friendliest is MPT for sure.

DPT for me feels like a more floral & feminine spirited DMT. Plugged or snorted, it's really intense for the first 45 mins and like a more conventional base tryptamine trip afterwards, until I'm down. I havent met (separate from me) entities on it, but it has this effect of distorting my body perception & feeling like i am physically joined to a higher being/concept.

I have definitely been joined with entities on DPT. Felt like joining Indra's web on it too.

It never felt unusually dark or demonic to me tho. In fact, I would consider it friendly to me, but I am in the minority ig.

DET is also a good one - at higher doses, it's very similar to DMT in body feel & visuals to me, but isn't nessecarily an earth shattering breakthrough experience. Feels quite nice! Low doses of it feel chill & trippy weed-like.

I haven't been impressed by any of the iP vase tryptamines I've tried. DiPT is probably the only psychedelic I will never repeat lmao, the audio effects are actively horrible for like 30 hours.
 
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