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Mescaline VS Amt VS MDMA

Bucklecroft Rudy

Bucklecroft Rudy

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Many molly users are stuck benchmarking every euphoric buzz against MDMA. The consensus seems 2b that Molly is the ultimate high. However this is a damning conclusion. Md is neurotoxic and loses lustre quiiiick. The euphoria is intense but how do Mesc and Amt compare in terms of empathogenesis entactogenesis and euphoria. Essentially if given the choice between the 3 which would give the most magical experience. Yehh apples n oranges etc but the 3 drugs all share common properties. Mescaline sounds superior to mdma in terms of duration,health and epiphanies experienced, but most cannot get past molly for raw kick.
 
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Ecstasy is good as long as you only take it once every few months. Mescaline is a very gentle wonderful psychedelic but only if you take it as a full A/B extraction. Just eating the cactus makes you puke up pigs in a blanket like a sick fucking dog.
 
can't comment on AMT or mesc, but MDMA indeed has gotten very boring. I'll be trying AMT very soon because I am very curious to see what it's like.
 
Very hard to compare, but there is cross tolerance.

In terms of personal preference...

Mescaline + MDMA = better than aMT

again this is a personal thing, i dont like the side effects of amt.
 
Bucklecroft Rudy said:
Would there not be increased dopaminergic toxicity (same with mxe + mdma due to dari of mxe) and risk of serotonin syndrome in combining these?
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Mescaline is a 5ht2a agonist rather than a serotonin releaser/reuptake inhibitor. There shouldn't be any risk of serotonin syndrome. Combining the two could be overly stimulating, and it'd be best to keep both the doses on the low side to avoid being overwhelmed, but as long as you don't throw caution to the wind and take extremely high doses of both there shouldn't be any cause for concern :)
 
i dont really see where this thread is going. if i remember right, there is already a thread about mdma vs amt, and comparing combos vs a single substance (like the previous poster did) seems rather pointless... these substances are also quite different in current use, i mean ive rarely seen mescaline being used for anything but deep spiritual trips (especially given the long duration) while amt and mdma are more prone to casual use... just my opinion though
 
Well obviously MDMA gives the most euphoria, but its impossible to get pure, neurotoxic, short, has a horrific comedown/day after and no visuals. AMT/Mescaline last 12 hours and have relatively low side effects.
 
mdma is easy to get pure in uk and quite cheap. bad comedown

amt easy to get, sickness and dodgy side effects on comeup

mescaline more expensive and hassle but really quite good for clubbing if your drinking. great for sex.
 
I agree with the above poster, I think mescaline is the best out of these three. MDMA does give the most intense euphoria, but sometimes it can be on a superficial level. For me, mescaline provides a more deep rooted euphoria, sense of peace and calm and can even have a fun social aspect when its not a huge dose. Also the visuals are breathtaking. And I also think it is the best aphrodisiac out of all the psyche's. Your stomach might hurt during the first couple hours but then its bliss, I even get a good afterglow into the next couple days. MDMA is the reverse. aMT is alright, but I have gotten some pretty weird physical side effects, strange nausea and gas and intense eye jiggling, worse than MDMA in some ways.
 
I think AMT is much more subtle than both of the other ones though I havent pushed it to the really high dosage regions. I tend to fall asleep at 35-40 mg like doses, not sure if going higher will put me to sleep even more or start being stimulating. I feel empathic and really spacey and zoned out, I had great talks on it and felt like I could get into touch deeply with myself and this catalyzed bonding that was really very special. I also recall a truly sparkling winters day on 10 mg.
Mescaline is pretty much the best one for me in pretty much every quality. I've never felt so down to earth and myself as on mescaline but at the same time it could be incredibly cosmic while staying relatively clear-minded, in an honest and very true and pure way. This feeling of truth and purity made me exceptionally sensitive emotionally and I would become sentimental about the smallest things and felt guilty about not being a better person to certain people even though I should not blame myself for anything.
Yes MDMA can also be very emotional and therapeutic but compared to mescaline not really that true and pure. More forceful and rushed. Yes it can make a lot of hurting go away, pain from the past and insecurities in the present. But I would call part of it fake. I think it's not entirely fair to wash the slate clean like that, even with LSD if it washed my mind and soul like a detergent I still have to deal with things on my own but MDMA takes so much of this burden away... Fine, it works well for healing but more psychedelic compounds do this more wholesome and take things into account at better face value. IMO.
 
MDMA was like a toy compared to the grandiosity of mescaline and aMT was just different than either of those so.... Mescaline to me is the most empathetic and connected a person can be in terms of chemical causation. The euphoria doesn't reach the same surreal level LSD can or does but its so prominent and free flowing I definitely feel like it does not need to be. If I had to choose one experience and only one, it would probably be very high dose mescaline as its a highly complete trip on so many levels. To me its only missing small gears and a bit of fine tuning otherwise it would simply be the ultimate.
 
id love to try AMT and Mescaline. been offered to me, but usually too expensive (mescaline) or unfortunately haven't come across a trustworthy enough source for me to take the plunge. im pretty much done with MDMA, i dont really plan on doing it but if im at a fun party and its good, and being offered for free, ill usually do it. also at festivals.

how easy is it to get into a negative space on mescaline? same as LSD or mushrooms? it seems like a pretty gentle substance, yet really profound.
 
Well mescaline is the parent 2C compound so consider those - though now that I think of it, it varies in the 2C range. 2C-C, -B and D for example are hard to get negative on IME, but 2C-E and 2C-P have that capacity do they not? Maybe it is best to think of a compound like 2C-T-7, it is rich and deep like mescaline but empathogenic/entactogenic enough to make it fundamentally uplifting. 2C-T-7 can get erratic at higher doses though. But the whole question of possible negativity depends on your dose. If it is high enough to make you very confused, it can make you vulnerable enough to get unwanted deep negative experiences or unexpected or unplanned deeply positive experiences.
 
I dunno if I'd compare mescaline with the 2c's thos solipsis. I think it's a lot gentler and sweeter than 2c-b for example.
 
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