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Mescaline - (T. Peruvians) - first time – “utterly speechless, a mystical trip” LONG

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Well where to begin? This was my first time with mescaline, I’ve done a number of other substances, but none have ever put me in such awe. Through out this whole experience I kept thinking how I could ever even write a report on it, Ill do my best though.

Anyway there were 3 of us all on the same dose, me, my brother “M” and his best friend “C”. We decided to do it at this forest/nature area type of place that has all these trails and rivers that we know like the back of our hand. We got there around 12:30 and found a spot to start dosing next to this huge stone thing that had a mushroom and pot leaf logo painted on it. we each had two bags of very potent cacti powder to ingest. “M” simply dumped one of his bags in a cup full of lemon juice and chugged it like nothing… I had a little harder time. I tried his lemon juice drink type of way and took much longer to drink that horrible tasting drink, we then waited a bit to take our second baggies. I wound up parachuting my next little baggy full of powder. “C” mixed his with Gatorade and drank it, M did the lemon juice method again. By this time we had ventured father into the trails of the forest.

Mescaline is so amazingly discreet the way it comes up, it kinda just SLOWLY crawls over you and keeps getting stronger. The first thing I noticed was feeling slightly stoned and I tiny strange feeling in my limbs. C said he needed to go “poop” and all 3 of us laughed historically for quite some time about that. We then walked about 20 feet onto this spot with tall grass on it. I looked around at the scenery and it all seemed a bit dreamy, we all commented how we felt like lord of the rings hobbits just venturing around and laughed about that. Then literally right then a young Deer walked by us a little farther up. We were all amazed at this; all the times we’ve been here we’ve never scene anything like a deer. I mean sure it’s a nature area type of place but it is in the middle of our town. We al agreed that seeing the deer was a good omen and the start of a great trip. That’s when things began to escalate more.

We quietly followed the deer for a while discussing what it could be thinking and how anyone could kill such a beautiful creature just to merely kill it. It eventually trotted out of site and we decided keep walking. We were all sweating quite a bit, this continued all through out the trip. Eventually we went through this trail that led us to one of the coolest spots at that lake. It was right on the side of the river and had these trees that grew outward onto the lake so that the leaves kind of formed a little haven and you could sit on the branches (this area was just simply called “the spot” for the rest of the day) across from the spot was a field of cows with orchards behind it. We all marveled at how big the cows were and how amazing nature is, the orchards disturbed us a bit how after all this time in the forest seeing nature grow freely, seeing plants in rows just didn’t seem right. The feel of mescaline is so unique I can’t even describe it. You feel very light and not foggy but crystal clear almost yet so dreamy at the same time, through the whole trip I felt like I was in a dream. All of us were pretty sedated for some reason so we decided to lay down in our spot, maybe try to nap. I started feeling chills all over my body and some good euphoria. The sun was reflecting light off the water onto the leaves above us and it creating such a cool effect of waving light everywhere. The pure silence of it was amazing, I became very in tune with nature I looked at the trees and saw such age in them and realized how inferior I am to them in that respect. While looking at the trippy lights, bird chirps, the sound of insects, the cool breeze ruffling leaves, and the river slapping on the sides of the banks permeated and punctuated the silence as if nature was playing a song for us. In some moments it was the most peaceful serene thing I had ever been apart of. I noticed pretty much the whole time we had been at the spot I had a stick in my hand, and it just felt really good to have that stick so I kept it pretty much throughout most of the trip, almost as if I had a personal relationship with it.

We began feeling adventurous again so we went out back onto the trails. Everything was so beautiful the tries the sky, the leaves on the ground that water the flowers. The world is such an amazing place and man is destroying it. we kept seeing the mushroom and pot leaf symbol painted everywhere on certain items all day long, we thought this was very eerie. We wanted to go back to where we saw the deer to see if it had returned. Eventually we ended up there but we went all over different routes before we did. It felt like some force was telling us where to go it was very strange, certain paths would just seem to be “right” as if they were radiating a certain kind of energy. I felt like I knew what it was like to be an animal, I had never been so in tune with my surroundings, it was just “right.”

Back at the grassy spot where we had seen the deer the effects began to pick up even more. I kept getting lighter, the sun felt like it was literally wrapping around my body like that feeling just a few minutes after you sit in a hot tub. we laid down again and when I closed my eyes I saw beautiful gentle closed eye visuals of a sun with radiating colors, re orange and yellow all meshing together like dropping food coloring into water. People were walking by on side trails and it made me feel like an animal even more by the fact that we were so close by yet they had no idea we were even there. We talked about how its because there not in tune like us and too busy thinking about superficial things blah blah you get the idea. M felt content at this spot but me and C felt as if there was something we needed to reach again (there were all kinds of moments were we would reach something and it would seem as if it was the beginning of another chapter in our trip). C and I felt like there was some goal that needed to be reached, something to be found; however we were so comfortable wern’t sure wether or not to move, we uncomfortably tangled with both ideas for a while and went back on the trails.

More odd things happen like we would be walking and all stop at the same time without knowing why and surely enough each time there would be a spider web with a HUGE spider on it right in front of us, every so often we would see a tree that was so amazing and beautiful for any particular reason and marvel at it. I remember seeing a flower on one of the times that was growing around a lot of dead things and this flower was the brightest yellow flower I have ever seen in my life. Soon I realized I was extremely thirsty and a bit hungry. All of us decided to walk to a nearby burger place that wasn’t too far. When we got to civilization it was a HUGE culture shock. The cars the people everything, it was kinda disturbing. Crossing the street was pretty hard/nerv racking, finally though we got lots of French fries and water, then M’s girlfriend who looks down on drugs shows up after he told what he was going to be doing, got in a fight and it put a negative spin on everything, we just desperately wanted to get back to “the spot.” After what seemed like an exhausting walk we made it back to the spot, by now it probably had to be 5 or 6 and we were very happy to have the water. After talking and drinking water we were over the whole girlfriend thing and it wasn’t depressing us anymore. The fries tasted like complete shit but the thought of an orange or some really juicy fruit sounded orgasmic.

After drinking we layed down for a bit and the effects really got stronger. The light reflecting on the leaves was going all around like fireflies and I was getting intense pulsating closed eye visuals of purple green blue white spiderwebbing flashes and lightning, chills down my body. We just sat quietly in our own little worlds pondering everything for what seemed to be a long time. Suddenly we began the beginning of one of the longest, most spiritual, insightful, philosophical, spiritual, inspiring conversations ive ever had, ranking above many heavy dosed ecstasy conversations. I could not possible write all of the things we came to realize then, the only word I can use to describe it is magical. During this conversation we all realized that we had found what we were looking for, how earlier in the day we had the strong feeling on the trails that we were looking for something but we just didn’t know what it was, we felt like the mescaline was leading us somewhere… well we all agreed what we were looking for was this state of mind and how ironic is it that it came to in the spot we had spent a ton of time in during the beginning of the trip.

Soon it was getting dark and after watching a whole day pass by before are eyes we new we should get back to the parking lot because there were lights there. The effects were VERY SLOWLY weaning away just as they had come on but there was still along way to go. We were really ready to be sober again. The rest of the trip involved having to drive home impaired and play it sober in front of my parents (pretty tough, I told them I just smoked a few bowls they believed me). Took an amazing shower that sent hot vibrations all over, laid in my bed exhausted and my cat walked up to me sat on my side purring extremely loud, I pet him until I fell asleep and I felt extremely close to this animal and I knew he felt the same about me. finally I drifted into a heavy slumber and woke up fine the next morning

I will never forget that trip. I highly recommend mescaline containing cacti to people, it tests you as a person, shows you the wonders of nature, is a teacher and an amazing tool. I can see myself doing it maybe again someday perhaps in a year or so.

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I'm curious why people don't like to do it more often...it seems like everyone wants to wait at least 6 months before the next dose. If it is so great, and as Aldous Huxley says, "this is the way the world should be seen", then why not do it once a week? Just curious = ) Seems better than a few beers to me...but many people probably opt for the beer.
 
2manytimes said:
I'm curious why people don't like to do it more often...it seems like everyone wants to wait at least 6 months before the next dose. If it is so great, and as Aldous Huxley says, "this is the way the world should be seen", then why not do it once a week? Just curious = ) Seems better than a few beers to me...but many people probably opt for the beer.

I thought the same thing before I had done it. If the trip is so amazing why not do it every week or so. after experiencing it myself though my vies changed

1. it is a very loong trip, you need probably about a whole day of not having to deal with anyone other then your fellow trippers

2.It takes a lot out of both physically and mentally, like a work out for your brain (during the trip we were cracking jokes about this like "how much can you bench press with your mind lol")

3. you almost feel like you have to respect the experience, and keep it so magical... aldous huxley had it right, that is the way the world should be seen though

during the trip I though to myself that i would be perfectly happy if that was the only drug I did for the rest of my life every year or so with pot inbetween experiences.
 
When I tried to trip every week on acid, rather than every six months like I'd told myself I would, I started having bad trips (which were every bit as unpleasant as a good trip is glorious). Not only is tripping physically and mentally exhausting as grimble crumble talked about, but being in that space for too long can cause the experience to become overly familiar and boring. For me, it's much better to experience the terrain as fresh, or even better as mysterious and enlightening, than it is to spend 8-12 physically draining hours in a place that you know like the back of your hand. It's not worth being there if there's nothing it can show you.

Furthermore, when taken every six months or every year or whatever feels respectful of the substance, you can pick those times where everything is right - or maybe sometimes when everything is wrong - and use the trip to its maximum benefit. When you take it every week, it can become an escape, a way to get away from your life rather than deal with it. This, in my opinion, is abuse of psychedelics because it moves them from the realm of the magical and the spiritual, into the world of cheap highs like coke and booze. When I did this, they punished me quite righteously.

Some people low-dose psychedelics on a regular and frequent basis and have good results. I'm not criticizing this practice; I'm not familiar with it.
 
8ft-Sativa said:
great report! how many grams of powder did you consume?


each of us had about 25 grams of dried cacti powder (The roots, spines, and white woody core all had been removed before hand)

this cacti was much more potent then we thought it would be
 
grimble crumble said:
I thought the same thing before I had done it. If the trip is so amazing why not do it every week or so. after experiencing it myself though my vies changed

1. it is a very loong trip, you need probably about a whole day of not having to deal with anyone other then your fellow trippers

2.It takes a lot out of both physically and mentally, like a work out for your brain (during the trip we were cracking jokes about this like "how much can you bench press with your mind lol")

3. you almost feel like you have to respect the experience, and keep it so magical... aldous huxley had it right, that is the way the world should be seen though

during the trip I though to myself that i would be perfectly happy if that was the only drug I did for the rest of my life every year or so with pot inbetween experiences.


Thanks for the info! It seems like something that would definitely need to be experienced to understand it sounds like. Awesome report!...would you ever try a/b extraction or just stick w/ the powder ingestion? I've heard a/b basically eliminates any nausea.
 
2manytimes said:
Thanks for the info! It seems like something that would definitely need to be experienced to understand it sounds like. Awesome report!...would you ever try a/b extraction or just stick w/ the powder ingestion? I've heard a/b basically eliminates any nausea.

the only reason I would try an extraction would be to know the exact amount of mescaline I was going to dose myself with. with this batch of powder I feel no need though. Im familiar with how potent it is, and I really dont get any nausea at all with it already (i have an unusually strong stomach). plus ive heard straight mescaline is a different trip then cacti

I would probably do an extraction in the future though to just compare the difference between a straight mesc trip and a cacti trip and also to eliminate the worry of wondering how potent a new batch would be.
 
Johnny1 said:
When I tried to trip every week on acid, rather than every six months like I'd told myself I would, I started having bad trips (which were every bit as unpleasant as a good trip is glorious). Not only is tripping physically and mentally exhausting as grimble crumble talked about, but being in that space for too long can cause the experience to become overly familiar and boring. For me, it's much better to experience the terrain as fresh, or even better as mysterious and enlightening, than it is to spend 8-12 physically draining hours in a place that you know like the back of your hand. It's not worth being there if there's nothing it can show you.

Furthermore, when taken every six months or every year or whatever feels respectful of the substance, you can pick those times where everything is right - or maybe sometimes when everything is wrong - and use the trip to its maximum benefit. When you take it every week, it can become an escape, a way to get away from your life rather than deal with it. This, in my opinion, is abuse of psychedelics because it moves them from the realm of the magical and the spiritual, into the world of cheap highs like coke and booze. When I did this, they punished me quite righteously.

Some people low-dose psychedelics on a regular and frequent basis and have good results. I'm not criticizing this practice; I'm not familiar with it.


wow. took the words right out of my mouth. i still plan on waiting a few more months until my next acid trip.
 
Hi, that is my brother, I am M. That was very well written buddy.

I have a little more input on some details for me. The magic was that the feel was so incredibly natural. The beginning stages were like being high, but without the foggyness and hysterical laughing. It was more like we had let out gaurd down were completely comfertable with each other.

The most amazing thing for me was the DEEP connection I had with my fellow trippers and nature. Just separating from them sent me into a state of almost panic. At some point words were not used to communicate, it was the most hummbling and awe-insprieing experience of my life.

Oh and don't smoke weed afterwards to sleep, I did and was fin but my friend had clsed eyes and visuas all over again.

-SE
 
sounds like a fantastic experience.

actually, it sounds almost like the benefits of only taking the most lasting (ie: non-sensational) part of the ecstasy experience, then increasing its significance by being able to maintain a clear memory of the event and having a longer dosage period.

a definite entry on the to do list.
 
missing_one said:
sounds like a fantastic experience.

actually, it sounds almost like the benefits of only taking the most lasting (ie: non-sensational) part of the ecstasy experience, then increasing its significance by being able to maintain a clear memory of the event and having a longer dosage period.

a definite entry on the to do list.

yeah man its is so similar to E youll be surprised, just loner lasting and more visuals.
 
That sounds like it was an amazing experience. It really makes me think i ought to try mescaline.
 
8ft-Sativa said:
yeah man its is so similar to E youll be surprised, just loner lasting and more visuals.

I dont know about that, ive done E plenty of times and to me this was VERY different from MDMA, or MDA for that matter.

yes there are some similarities, both give you a great body high (mescalines however is much different at least for me, its very light and floaty and warmer then E's icy cold numbness

yes both make you feel empathetic and "lovey" but mescalines is more "real", if you get what i mean.

the headspace of each is definetily different. just something you have to experience to understand (as with most drugs)
 
gc, do you think it's easy or difficult for someone who's never tripped before to have a bad trip on mescaline? What if they got scared during the comeup - would the nature of the drug once high mellow that out? Can you, if you will it, turn off (or turn down) the effects so you feel pretty much normal? I'd appreciate your thoughts on this as I'm sitting on some cactus and have a few friends who've never tripped, and two who don't even have experience with weed.

I've heard mescaline is much gentler than LSD or mushrooms, but am interested in learning more about the comparison especially WRT new trippers. I know about set and setting, etc.
 
Johnny1 said:
gc, do you think it's easy or difficult for someone who's never tripped before to have a bad trip on mescaline? What if they got scared during the comeup - would the nature of the drug once high mellow that out? Can you, if you will it, turn off (or turn down) the effects so you feel pretty much normal? I'd appreciate your thoughts on this as I'm sitting on some cactus and have a few friends who've never tripped, and two who don't even have experience with weed.

I've heard mescaline is much gentler than LSD or mushrooms, but am interested in learning more about the comparison especially WRT new trippers. I know about set and setting, etc.

hmmm ide say its meduim i guesse? its really hard to say becuase there are so many factors in it.

every person handles tripping differently, there are some who can go with the flow and others who cant.

every batch of cacti is different some are stronger then average peyote some are pretty much useless, so determining dosage is difficult. im sure that the cactus i had was quite potent (the powder was very green, very bitter, very strong smelling if that is even a factor im not too sure .... and well it gave me the above trip:) ). to my knowledge though cactus potency varies more from vendor to vendor rather then species to species when talking about the two most popular T. Peruvians (the type i had) and T. Pachanoi.

as far as willing effects to lower, theres no forcing yourself sober on an average dose. maybe during the come up but it would be like a minute or 30 second type of thing ya know? if they were going to freakout on it believe me man it wouldnt happen on the come up, it slooowly creeps up on you and all the sudden your like ... hey im trippin ... then it just keeps getting stronger hour after hour. if they were gunna freak it would be on the peak or after a long time them wondering if they would ever be sober again.

and yes mescaline is much more gentle then shrooms and LSD but keep in mind its still quite a powerfull drug in its effects and can definetily pick apart at your ego. when i say its more gentle I mean the characteristics of the trip, how it crawls over you, how its very dreamy, how most of the visuals are closed eye (besides the dreamy glimmery look to everything and the definete color enhancement), not that your automatically not going to have a bad trip. your still definetily tripping in every aspect of the word.

your main problems with giving virgins a mescaline trip is gunna be determining dosage (cactus potency), and the length. plan on a 12 hour trip. have a whole day where they are not going to have to even think about authority figures.

as you said you know about setting and all that so heres some tips

1. mescaline thrives in a nature type setting, i wouldnt want to be anywhere else.
2. try and dose before noon

happy trippin
 
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