sanpedro20092011
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We've previously tried T. pachanoi twice and achieved a +++ with about 15" per person.
Hearing that bridgesii was more powerful, we opted to split 18" (9" per person), prepared via the tea method(cut out core, de-skinned, blended, brewed for 7 hours or so, reduced to 1/2 cup per person).
We consumed abut half (like 5" each) and the (physical) effects were felt within a half hour (came on waaay faster and stronger than the pachanoi). I had read that due to the MAOIs (although they are rumored to be weak), the bridgesii would be strong, but was not expecting what unfolded. OEVs were observed within an hour!! and I actually threw up twice about an hour into it (felt better immediately). However, the physical, mental, and psychological effects (not to mention the absolutely crazy visuals
) were overwhelming by 1.5 hours in, so at this point I took 1 0.5mg lorazepam to combat the still-climbing effects slightly, as I am not a very experienced tripper and felt I had consumed too much. Even my husband, who's tripped at least a dozen times reported the most intense visuals he's ever had, and ended up taking a lorazepam too a little later on.
Re: effects of the lorazepam: it reduced the visuals somewhat, although I continued to trip for 12-18 hours following. I was grateful than following the lorazepam consumption, I was able to actually get up off the floor and do things like walk outside, and play video games. In retrospect, however, I wish that I had sucked it up and endured the full trip without that crutch (although it was overwhelming, I know I would've been fine, clearly), and the lorazepam really did diminish a lot of the effects...
So we still have the other half frozen, (about 8"total), I hope to try it next weekend maybe w/out any lorazepam hopefully
now that I know what I'm in for.
Although I realize that each cactus can vary greatly in potency, I purchased the pachanoi and bridgesii from the same vendor and they're definitely were pachanoi and bridgesii, respectively. Speaking from this experience, it really seems that Bridgesii is a lot more powerful (at least this one was) than pachanoi. The 5" of bridgesii kicked my ass big time, while the 15" of pachanoi produced a mild-moderate trip (identical prep, except i actually did not de-core the pachanoi).
Also, I have heard that the MAOI combination with the tyramine in it, along with tyramine you may have had in your diet can lead to hypertensive crisis. To avoid this, tyramine containing foods (such as cheeses) were avoided. The cactus was taken in the morning, following about 15 hrs of fasting (except a protein shake and some gatorade a couple hrs before). I actually took my bp and it was 135-95 with a 100 pulse about 1 hr in (slightly elevated, prob due to nerves at that point). My point is I was worried about consuming the bridgesii, but it seems to have been totally fine, although surprisingly potent.
Hearing that bridgesii was more powerful, we opted to split 18" (9" per person), prepared via the tea method(cut out core, de-skinned, blended, brewed for 7 hours or so, reduced to 1/2 cup per person).
We consumed abut half (like 5" each) and the (physical) effects were felt within a half hour (came on waaay faster and stronger than the pachanoi). I had read that due to the MAOIs (although they are rumored to be weak), the bridgesii would be strong, but was not expecting what unfolded. OEVs were observed within an hour!! and I actually threw up twice about an hour into it (felt better immediately). However, the physical, mental, and psychological effects (not to mention the absolutely crazy visuals
) were overwhelming by 1.5 hours in, so at this point I took 1 0.5mg lorazepam to combat the still-climbing effects slightly, as I am not a very experienced tripper and felt I had consumed too much. Even my husband, who's tripped at least a dozen times reported the most intense visuals he's ever had, and ended up taking a lorazepam too a little later on. Re: effects of the lorazepam: it reduced the visuals somewhat, although I continued to trip for 12-18 hours following. I was grateful than following the lorazepam consumption, I was able to actually get up off the floor and do things like walk outside, and play video games. In retrospect, however, I wish that I had sucked it up and endured the full trip without that crutch (although it was overwhelming, I know I would've been fine, clearly), and the lorazepam really did diminish a lot of the effects...
So we still have the other half frozen, (about 8"total), I hope to try it next weekend maybe w/out any lorazepam hopefully
now that I know what I'm in for.Although I realize that each cactus can vary greatly in potency, I purchased the pachanoi and bridgesii from the same vendor and they're definitely were pachanoi and bridgesii, respectively. Speaking from this experience, it really seems that Bridgesii is a lot more powerful (at least this one was) than pachanoi. The 5" of bridgesii kicked my ass big time, while the 15" of pachanoi produced a mild-moderate trip (identical prep, except i actually did not de-core the pachanoi).
Also, I have heard that the MAOI combination with the tyramine in it, along with tyramine you may have had in your diet can lead to hypertensive crisis. To avoid this, tyramine containing foods (such as cheeses) were avoided. The cactus was taken in the morning, following about 15 hrs of fasting (except a protein shake and some gatorade a couple hrs before). I actually took my bp and it was 135-95 with a 100 pulse about 1 hr in (slightly elevated, prob due to nerves at that point). My point is I was worried about consuming the bridgesii, but it seems to have been totally fine, although surprisingly potent.
