• Psychedelic Drugs Welcome Guest
    View threads about
    Posting RulesBluelight Rules
    PD's Best Threads Index
    Social ThreadSupport Bluelight
    Psychedelic Beginner's FAQ
  • PD Moderators: Esperighanto | JackARoe | Cheshire_Kat

Ethnobotanicals [Mescaline Subthread] Species of Cacti & Cultivation

Go for one of the peyote species if you want a centrepiece cactus to be proud of (they also produce spectacular flowers), but if you want it purely to produce mescaline, go for one of the Trichocereus species, as they are very fast growing (for cacti - and they only flower at night)
 
And there is no way to tell how much mescaline is in each different cacti---scientist havn't figured out how to measure such a request. And that's straight off of erowid.org which is one of if not the best drug fact filled site ever made.
Click to expand...

I'd suggest you read the site again. What the site said was the the potency in the cactus varies considerably from one specimen to another. But that doesn't scientists can't take a sample of cactus and analyze it. It just doesn't mean much about how much mescaline is in your cactus, unless you have your specific cactus analyzed, because the potency varies so much from one specimen to another.

Ive been thinking of cultivating some cacti, but i dont know which one to get. I can get the following seeds:


Lophophora williamsii
Lophophora diffusa
Trichocereus pachanoi
Trichocereus peruvianus
Click to expand...


The Lophophora williamsii (peyote) is typically the more potent and more reliably so than the Trichocereus cacti. However it grows very slowly, up to 15 years for one button, and is illegal in many countries. The Trichocereus cacti will grow several inches per year, sometimes more. They typically end up producing mescaline alot faster.
 
mescaline potency in cacti

i am considering trying to get my hands on some t.bridgessi/panchoi cactus
and i do not want to get ripped off, is there a way i can find out if the cactus has mescaline in it? because i have read that san pedro has between 0% and 2% mescaline, i am worried i will get a 0% cactus , if i dont get enough mescaline into my body to trip i will needless to say be very disappointed. so is there a way i can tell if it will have good mescaline content? can i assume that if plant looks very healthy it should contain alkaloids? all help would be appreciated. thanx
waterboy:)
 
No way of telling. Just suck it and see.

The main problem even with potent cacti is getting enough down you to trip. Once you've tasted the shit you'll know why...
 
Yeah cacti tastes absolutely horrible thats why I only get pure mescaline extract and put it in capsules. But as for telling the potency, theres no way as Ismene said. I would just do what you think is right, buy it and take a risk or dont.
 
You could perform an extraction, that way you don't have to worry :P
 
thats why I only get pure mescaline extract
Click to expand...

With san pedro, you get a whole load of other alkaloids in there with the mescaline if you do an extraction (such as hordenine - 4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethylphenethylamine), so it's not really pure, but I get what you mean - that it's only the alkaloids you extract, so it's a samall enough volume so that you never have to insult your taste buds with that vile gloop
 
It's pretty safe to say that the darker a cactus is the more alkaloids it will have. You're chances of getting ripped off for potency are much, much slimmer than your chances of getting ripped off for trying to find mescaline on the street or trying to do a blind extraction yourself.

If you want to bypass the taste you don't need a clean chemical extraction. Just dry the cactus, grind it up and stick the material into capsules. It's very simple and quite rewarding with just a little bit of effort on your part.
 
If a cactus is darker than normal it is stressed. Alkaloids are produced as defense to a stressfull environment. "The alkaloids in these cacti are a defense mechanism against invading organisms, and increase during stressful conditions..."

With that ^ in mind, if a cactus is underwatered or it's growing conditions stressed in any way, it will have more mescaline. There really isn't much out there on this, it can only be gleaned from common sense and growing/harvesting experience. I would never purposely do this to my plants but I don't doubt that this experiment works because after nearly 6 years of growing and harvesting my own, I have seen the actions of naturally stressed cacti. I'm speaking from experiential reference, not a textbook.

The above quote is from here:
cactus growers guide
 
How many capsules will it take for 25g of dried cactus? Which is easier on your stomach, the dried-in-capsules or a syrup made from boiling it down?
 
It depends on how big your capsules are, but I've always used medium sized ones and they tend to weigh out at around a gram each if you stuff as much material in there as possible. If you are unsure just buy a rinky dink scale at a headshop.

I find that dried is much easier on the stomach because you don't have to experience as much of the taste. It definitely cuts out some of the gag factor which could lead you to violently heaving it all back up if you are prone to doing so.

On another note: both drying and the syrup are great methods. I have been able to keep my liquid concoctions down by sipping slowly over the course of 30 minutes to an hour. Many people regard the syrup as the more "organic" and "purist" way to go, especially for your first experience. This is the initiation bias that I've run into--"you must drink this vile goo or you are not worthy!" It is really all about what works for you, so long as you go into it with a respectful and open frame of mind there is nothing to worry about. :)
 
^^how many dud expieriences have you had with cacti and what is the highest dose you have used? anyone can answer these q's by the way, i am considering a high-er dose for the first time say 15-16" of plant and i am not prone to being sick so i should be fine.one more thing will syrian rue enhance the expierience? if so i am definitely in for a wild ride :D
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top