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Mescaline similar to MDMA?

Percussion_is_Free said:
Don't write off a drug until you get a proper dose--mescaline has a spiritual depth to it that's unique among all the entheogens, and that spiritual mind and the stunning opened eyed visuals meld together beautifully (unlike some synthetic phens I've tried, where the visuals march by completely unrelated to what I'm experiencing mentally/emotionally). I recommend giving it another go if you have the opportunity.
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I have access to it in various plant forms but I feel like I would enjoy it better either synthed or extracted, the nausea from eating plant material I feel is what wrecked it for me.
 
^^^^ Actually, it was sugar in orange juice. He thought it was morphine and it knocked him out... :)
 
glad you caught that ^^^^


I still think more of you should eat 1 foot of brewed bridgessii and the next week maybe two weeks later eat 120mg of mdma and tell me that the bridgessii did not feel EXACTLY like a natural version of mdma....

YES!! ONLY!! at these doses... but still to my group we have all concluded this.. therefore enjoying this fact multiple times!!!! also probably due to the set and setting.. i.e. raves... dark house with glowsticks and psytrance.. these doses feel SO SO SO SO SO SO similar <3

to each his own though....... %)
 
Maybe it's just from all the LSD i've done, but I feel like MDMA definitely has psychoactive effects. I remember taking around only .5 at one time and tripping out for 10 minutes straight. Heavy visuals, just like an acid trip, trails, lights, strange movements, everything. It was totally unexpected. I bet if I took 1 gram at a time I would really trip. And I've been to music festivals where everyone is on MDMA, and some people trip out like crazy on it. I remember my friend grabbing onto the grass because she was convinced she was going to float away. Again, it could be because my mind is already open to hallucinations from tripping 15+ times. I also experience a loss of ego and child-like wonder, and very in-the-momentness.

Also, the comedown from MDMA is VERY similar to coming down from an acid/mushroom trip (i've never done mescaline.) I'm still slightly hallucinating, and I have many insights/loss of ego/feelings of oneness.
 
rubyblu said:
I remember taking around only .5 at one time and tripping out for 10 minutes straight. Heavy visuals, just like an acid trip, trails, lights, strange movements, everything. It was totally unexpected. I bet if I took 1 gram at a time I would really trip.
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Goodlord.
 
They are from similar drug families.

MDMA is classified as a phenylthamine which expresses it self with high amounts of euphoria, energy, mild visuals, and the lovey dovey feeling ecstasy is well known to create. It also has a heavy taxing affect on the serotonin receptors.

Mescaline is what is known as a tryptamine which is has a much more psychedelic affect on the mind with reported effects as philosophical thoughts, extreme and at times vivid (as well as lucid) visuals. Tryptamine's tend to focus more on the dopamine receptors in the mind which lead to the speedy intense feeling you described in your post.

Both are the foundation of the wave of designer drugs that are available at cost in your local jurisdiction. Not condoning the illegal purchase of drugs 'just sayin.
 
So are you saying you take 500mg of MDMA at once, and are thinking about doing 1 gram in one go? That sounds incredibly high and inadvisable (if it is MDMA).

MDMA (and more so MDA) can have psychedelic attributes and play visual trickery on you sometimes. I haven't taken Mescaline yet, but am under the impression that it isn't that visual a psychedelic so the two chemicals probably do have quite a few similarities.

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Spooky Snacks said:
They are from similar drug families.

MDMA is classified as a phenylthamine
Mescaline is what is known as a tryptamine
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Mescaline is the Phenethylamine that inspired Shulgin to discover all of his creations in Pihkal, so there is even more similarity between the two compounds than you say
 
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Spooky Snacks said:
They are from similar drug families.

MDMA is classified as a phenylthamine which expresses it self with high amounts of euphoria, energy, mild visuals, and the lovey dovey feeling ecstasy is well known to create. It also has a heavy taxing affect on the serotonin receptors.

Mescaline is what is known as a tryptamine which is has a much more psychedelic affect on the mind with reported effects as philosophical thoughts, extreme and at times vivid (as well as lucid) visuals. Tryptamine's tend to focus more on the dopamine receptors in the mind which lead to the speedy intense feeling you described in your post.

Both are the foundation of the wave of designer drugs that are available at cost in your local jurisdiction. Not condoning the illegal purchase of drugs 'just sayin.
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I'm pretty sure tryptamines don't focus that much on dopamine receptors, but I could be wrong. They certainly feel less speedy than phenethylamine psychedelics (like *cough* mescaline)
 
Well 2cb is sometimes called bromo mesculine
And that is nothing like mdma
Mdma mskes rediculessly horny 2cb just makes everyyhing trippy and amzing

P.s when I cain half a gram of mdma I trip to I put that down to having tripped on 2cb
 
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Despite the chemical similarities, I couldn't make draw any comparisons between them personally.

Mescaline = horrendous nausea for 3+ hours
MDMA = bowel stimulation/diarrhea on the comeup; no nausea

Mescaline = lasts 12+ hours
MDMA = lasts 4-6 hours

Mescaline = slightly stimulating trip (more trippy than stimulating/empathogenic)
MDMA = feelings of deep relaxation/tranquility w/ mild psychedelic overtones (more stimulating/empathogenic than psychedelic)

So yeah, no similarities for me. Then again it's all subjective so YMMV. To me, mescaline felt akin to mild food poisoning while MDMA was like an overly-intense synthetic high.
 
To me mescaline contains nearly all qualities of MDMA only more in tune and with more depth IMO. It gives an unprecedented feeling of empathy along with a a feeling of true connectedness. Obviously mescaline contains thirty thousand more traits than MDMA does, but I see MDMA as a short lasting extremely bland or empty mescaline husk. They can also both be somewhat relaxing or more on the stimulating side dependent on things as well to me.
 
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