Mescaline Questions - REPOST

[PhreeX]

NecroTrance had originally posted some questions in regards to MESCALINE, now, we will answer the questions about MESCALINE and NO OTHER DRUG, for instance, LSD .. yes, it is a FACT that he is NOT GETTING MESCALINE, at least, not in a drop-for-dose-liquid-form, so if you MUST acknowledge this, please simply say so in a kind manor.. the last thread was killed as I didn't want it to turn into 20 pages of flames about how "you're not buying mescaline" ..
Here is the original question, typed as-is, so please ignore the obvious mistake and answer the questions..
NecroTrance said:

I'm thinking of trying Mescaline. Actually I'm planning on it, but I have some questions first. First off I'm a little skeptical about the dosage. The person who says they'll get it for me has told me that it will come in a liquid form, I'll have to pay 10 bucks for a drop, which is cool. However, every online source that I've read so far says mescaline comes in powder. Hmmm? He also told me that it would last for two days, that it would go on and off at 30-60 minute intervals. The online sources said it lasts 4-8 hours. Hmmm? However, one online source claimed that the mixture of LSD and Mescaline produces effects for a much more lasting time. Could it be I'm going to get mescaline and liquid cid pre-mixed? Is that why it's supposed to come in liquid? Also I have a question about the effects. My source for the mescaline claims that I will hallucinate just like I do from beans, which is something I really love to do. my sister's account for Mescaline is that the hallucinations scared her, really bad. Will I enjoy my favorite hallucinations that I see on the comedown, will I be frightened, or will I see something totally and altogether different? Oh yes and a question about tolerance to psychadelics in general. About two months ago maybe longer I ingested two ten-strips of LSD in geltab form. I haven't been able to trip off paper or tabs ever since then. Will Mescaline still work because obviously acid doesn't work for me unless I take more than 5 maybe more than that.

Remember, answer his questions AS THEY RELATE TO MESCALINE and if you feel the need to flame, please do NOT RUIN THIS THREAD!
You're welcome!
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[SovietContin]

The only other psychedelic that I can think of that could possibly be effective in liquid would be DOB.
As for the duration as long as given, I can't think of anything other than DOM that would last that long.
And as for coming on and off in 30-60 minute intervals.. well, shrooms sort of change in their effects in intervals like that, but obviously this isn't 4-OPO or 4-OH-DMT.
Either way, $10 for a drop of really good acid isn't *that* bad. Anyone can afford it even if the dealer is more than doubling his money on it. I've payed $20 for two drops of the best liquid I've ever gotten. I mean, it was that or don't do it. And it ended up blowing my mind, so not a bad deal in the end. Might as well just try it out either way.

 

[Harry Redknapp]

Ok...I usually restrain from flaming people, but this is a special case.

The person who says they'll get it for me has told me that it will come in a liquid form, I'll have to pay 10 bucks for a drop, which is cool. However, every online source that I've read so far says mescaline comes in powder. Hmmm? He also told me that it would last for two days, that it would go on and off at 30-60 minute intervals

You are a wanker, and a rubout. You haven't done any research have you? Do a search on this forumn for mescaline related posts, and see how many others have been fooled into buying "mescaline"
I suspect that my comments will be ignored, but don't say I didn't warn you tosspiece.
Wanna buy some adrenachrome?

 

[JB]

I'd say try it too, but if it is DOM I would lock all the doors and windows and call work to say you may not be in for a few days!

That stuff sound absolutly crazy from what i've read.
MrGeezer: would you pass up a possible 30 hour trip even if it was claimed to be 'mescaline', we all know it's bollax but i'm sure probably even the dealer dosn't know. Some retard takes it trips for two days, well they've seen Fear and loathing, so it must be mescaline. but if it's DOM!!ummm....
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[Moose onE]

necrotrance- you must be a complete moron to think that you have mescaline. if you have any knowledge of mescaline, you would know that it is active at a few hundred miligrams. and your dealer or source is full of shit as most dealers are. they will tell you anything to get you to eat their drugs and i see that sadly it works on such flamers as you. you should have quit bitching after the first post was closed.

 

[NecroTrance]

Okay, I didn't know shit about Mescaline and someone said it was really cool and that they could get it. So I decided to go and see if he was being honest about it. Every website I looked at including Erowid, and the Lycaeum have all reported Mescaline coming in powder form. However, there are many ways to do drugs, other than the usual way. So, I figured maybe the websites just don't list any other form of mescaline because it's not exactly a popular drug and not much time should be wasted on it. So, then my efforts lead me to ask everyone on this board. Thanks a lot for your answers and now that I know it's not Mescaline but, I'm still going to do it I would just like to give a big FUCK YOU to all the people who were thinking about or proceeded in flaming me. Is that all you people do with your spare time, put others down just because they aren't like you or haven't experienced as much as you?! GROW UP! Oh and PhreeX I understand why you closed my thread, because you knew just about everyone on this board was shallow and would flame me rather than help me. However, I don't think that is a valid reason to close a topic, especially one like this...It is possible that some of us still don't know everything about drugs. Thanks to you people I will be taking the 'mescaline'(I would've done it regardless of feedback from here anyways)and I will know that it's not Mescaline...Even more reason to be excited.

 

[Quirks]

Too often these days people label anything that is a hallucinogen and not acid or shrooms as "mescaline". It has become a generic catch all term, it is used because it is way to explain something as familar and known, important if your trying to sell something.
The most common thing labeled as "mescaline" is PCP. Certainly it is possible for other drugs like DOB, and all it's freinds or other tryptamines, but I'd guess your going to get PCP. It's hard to dose PCP, it usually has to be cut with a lot of filler and mixed well, and sometimes mixed in water, maybe even large blotters.

 

[gun toting hip gansta]

why don't you have all the answers to your questions dammit?
what you aren't an expert on drugs, the form they come in and what they do to you?
what, that is why you asked at a forum to provide knowledge and give help to those who don't have it from those that do?
what you haven't been taking drugs for the last 30 years everyday of your life? then you are too stupid to try them.
oh wait you were fine to ask as that is what is suposed to be done, but the replies by some.....
why can't ppl who want to discuss, discuss in peace, even if other more experiance ppl don't want to discuss. They don't have to read it and waste there time, no one is making them waste there time by replying.
Anyway man, i hope you eventually get some mescaline.
eat it then go swimming

 

[Quirks]

I want to add that how you hallucinate, wether they scare you, etc. is mostly dependent on your state of mind and environment. You will likely have different sorts of hallucinations off the same dose of the same substance.

 

[NecroTrance]

Okay now people, let's not turn this into a flame war and let PhreeX have reason to close it. Back to the discussion...
If and when I do take this mystery substance, if what my friend tells me is true and I have the same hullucinations that I do on multiple doses of X, then what exactly might this odd impostor mescaline potion be? And this is what I'm really, really concerned with...Will my visuals be constant and the same boring shit that acid provides or will they be varied and continually diffeent? I hate the way cid gives you one hallucination and keeps it there...I wanna see more god damnit, more!

 

[wilson]

Sounds like DOB to me - dosage and duration matches, and atleast some people claim the effects come in 'waves' like that.

 

[AbraMontague]

I would like to <sarcasm> thank all of the intelligent </sarcasm> people who have nearly ruined this thread by flaming, even after being asked not to do so. Maybe people will realize that what they have most likely isn't mescaline when they learn the effects of real mescaline, the purpose of this thread. Sorry for the rant but oh well...

 

[lummox]

Don't know if the timeline on this thread got screwed up or everyone's feeling like being a total fuckwad (BTW, I thought PhreeX was being exceptionally civil), but here's some actual answers about Mescaline:
*based on personal experience with San Pedro, not synthetic/extracted mescaline*
As stated here, mescaline is always in powder form. While it could certainly be dissolved in a liquid, the threshold dose is something like 150mg... far too much for a few drops.
As for the effects of mescaline, you can expect about 6-12 hours of mild to medium hallucinations - shifting patterns, vivid colors, etc. I understand that at high enough doses, true hallucinations do occur, though I have never experienced them myself. (One can only handle so much San Pedro)
Physically, it has a weird effect of making one (or me, at least) both hyper and lethargic at the same time. It's as if my body is telling me to get up and move, and my brain won't let me. It can get a bit irritating at times when I feel as though I'm never where - or doing what - I should be, but the sensation never lasts and never leads to a bad trip. It has a tendency to cause muscle spasms in me, but so do acid and DXM, so that may just be me. The onset especially has certain physical feelings similar to X, though nowhere near as strong. Expect some periods of nausea, possibly very strong ones. This can happen with even pure mescaline. I had one time where the nausea was so bad it was intolerable. I forced vomiting and wasn't right for a day or two. Last time I took it...
Mentally, it's a very 'natural' feeling. Inanimate objects can take on aspects of personality. In one experience in particular, I had music playing on my Dreamcast, with it's little light show playing on my tv. It really seemed to me that the blobs of color on the screen were dancing about playfully, and really having fun.

Again, these are my personal experiences, backed with little fact. If you can find it I would recommend it at least once. When it goes well, it's one of my favorites.
Also, I would recommend you not take what your friend is offering unless you know for certain what it is; whether it's cid, DOM, whatever. You should alwaysknow for a fact. Just my opinion.
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[PhreeX]

If anything, it's probably LSD - I don't think DOB is that common, and remember, you can't get much active drug in a *drop* of fluid, so if it has ANY active effects, it's probably LSD ..
Oh, and like I said, we and the Shroomery are after the SAME THING, so any of these stupid posts about how one site is worse then the other will BE DELETED AS WILL ANY REPLIES TO THEM ...
If you want to trash a message board, go find some anti-drug website ...
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[SovietContin]

The most common thing labeled as "mescaline" is PCP. Certainly it is possible for other drugs like DOB, and all it's freinds or other tryptamines, but I'd guess your going to get PCP. It's hard to dose PCP, it usually has to be cut with a lot of filler and mixed well, and sometimes mixed in water, maybe even large blotters.

I've never seen PCP passed off as mescaline. Only as "Super K" or "Elephant Tranqs".. and of course "embalming fluid". It's really funny how many people honestly believe that's what they're smoking. Not that it probably doesn't happen based on idiot dealers not knowing what they're doing and selling it.
I've seen DOM passed off in microdot form as "synthetic mescaline". Pretty rare, but there was a lot of it going around my area in 99 for a short period. It's just easier than explaining to people it's a rare chemical they've never heard of. And MDA pills I've seen sold as "E cut with mescaline".

If anything, it's probably LSD - I don't think DOB is that common, and remember, you can't get much active drug in a *drop* of fluid, so if it has ANY active effects, it's probably LSD ..

Well a threshhold dose starts at .2mgs so I think there is enough in a drop that it could potentially work to some extent.
But yes, I agree. I think there would be effects, but it'd be very minimal and LSD would be stronger anyways. Not to mention everyone knows how easy it is to mistakenly give out more than one drop at a time.
I was just saying it is possible.
Also someone said about DOM lasting 30 hours. That's like a really really big dose. An old friend of mine had a mom that took it in the early 70's. She said it came in little pellets that looked like gerbil food and was told "it's just like strong acid". So her and her friends took several and ended up tripping for two days straight. She said she just kept going up and up and up for over a day.. lol. She said it was great until the next day and was still going and her and her friends had to all hide out at someones house and skip out on their jobs and crap and had to make up a story together about how they went on a trip to the beach.. lol. She said that was the last time she did anything hallucinogenic.
However I've done it and just taking one dose (I have no idea how much it contained any time I tried it) it usually lasted between 14-18 hours and was like acid on steroids, kind of like the next step up, very similar trip only super clean. But I've never eaten more than two doses at a time. The only person I knew that took multiple doses said it never lasted for more than about 24 hours.

 

[*Sadness*]

HAHA....PhreeX strikes again.....

 

[PhreeX]

I took a whopping dose of N-DOm (STP) ... no idea how much I did, but it was probably 15mg-30mg, VERY PURE shit ... 30 hours, pure hell, it didn't even slow down... at the 30 hour mark I was still tripping, hard as hell, but I had cried myself out of energy and fluid, plus had taken about 4mg Halcion in the last hour - so it might have been a 40 hour trip had I not passed out...
DOB active at 200ug? I guess, I thought it was higher, but I might have been thinking of DOM..
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[Mystifeye]

i posted recently about what was supposedly mescaline-containing catctus liquid extract that i bought from an online company. well it was shit. it had 8 oz and i was told that 1oz would be sufficient - the guy said that he asks $10/oz for it but i paid $40 for the z. he nearly had me paying $100 for $16. god, i must have been a real fool - i didn't trip of it or anything and i took 4oz at a time. in theory i dont see why you cant have a liquid extract.. i mean if you powder the cactus and place it in liquid.
pure mescaline on the other hand is worth its weight in gold if you can get it!

 

[justsomeguy]

Yeah, there was an indian/mexican dude at my school who would get the shit about once a year to "talk with father cactus"....who would hardly ever share though :-(