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Mescaline/aMT combo?

peyoteshaman

peyoteshaman

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I woke up found this note lying next to my bed.

"I've had two experiences with aMT (can't recall dose but definitely over 80mg) and enjoyed both. I've also had one experience with 40g of peruvian torch which, despite the initial nausea, was thoroughly enjoyable and gave me a great feeling of euphoria and some light CEVs.

I know that aMT is rumored to be an MAOI (has this been confirmed) and MAOIs shouldn't been mixed with other drugs so what do you think a combo would be like?

I've found a vendor that sells 30mg pellets of aMT and the i'm probably going to buy the peruvian torch from the vendor I used before. Do you think that I'd be better off using a smaller amount of torch; 20mg maybe?

I'm not an expert on chemistry but I'm already skeptical that the two would work together. aMT usually gives me pretty bad nausea on the come up and peruvian torch can be tricky.

What do you think?"

Afterwards, I threw the note in the bin.
 
Well, there's a lot of speculative pharmacology involved there. There is some dispute as to how strong an MAOI aMT is, and i'm not confident enough in either argument to make a definitive call there, especially with regard to combinations. Also, there is some thought that PEA psychedelics may cause some monamine release, but this is even more unverified than the last bit, and i'm more skeptical regarding this. I'd file that combo under possibly dangerous. The only truly safe way to do it would be to titrate your dose up from threshold, which can be a bit time (& drug) consuming. But it is a safe way to learn something about how the two drugs affect you
 
My pet koala says "It seems pretty uncertain then. I'm probably better off leaving it. They're both pretty strong drugs by themselves so there's no point in mixing. The thing is that there's only 30mg amt available which isn't much. is there anything safer to mix with it?"
 
We don't allow people to use substitute words like SWIM or "my pet koala". We know it's you.

I agree with AMD... a potentially dangerous combo given the MAOI factor, and the only way to know is start small.
 
Sorry about that. I'm just used to reading posts on similar forums and assumed that was correct etiquette. Yeah, I think I'll give it a miss.
 
It might theoretically be an MAOI but that doesn't mean it's an MAOI in the sense that drug users understand.

For it to act as an MAOI to activate DMT for example, you'd probably need to take the entire worlds supply of AMT. I don't believe it's gonna have any MAOI effect on mescaline whatsoever.
 
Ok, looks like I'm definitely better off leaving amt to itself (at least until there's been more research done).
Out of interest, do any of you know much about the neurotoxicity/ long term side effects of amt?
 
If I enjoyed AMT I'd try mixing it with cactus. Start low and increase the dose. I wouldn't let the MAOI theory put me off. People talk about passionflower and st johns wort being MAOIs but they wouldn't affect your bodys processing of DMT.

There's been some use of AMT as an antidepressant in soviet russia in the 60s so I wouldn't worry too much about side-effects.
 
Used in the past and found it very enjoyable. Didn't have scales at the time (learnt my lesson) but did roughly 80mg each time. enjoyed them and didn't find them too overwhelming so 30mg would probably just give it a euphoric edge? Maybe 30mg amt and 20g/40g peruvian?
 
I still find the soviet use of amt fascinating. I wonder why they discontinued use. I have a couple of theories.

1. It's fairly easy to build up a tolerance to amt so it wasn't effective in the long term
2. People started abusing it and used it for recreation. I believe pills were given in 5mg and 10mg so you'd only have to stockpile 3 or 6 for a good time.
3. It simply wasn't as effective as other anti-depressants.
4. It COULD be an MAOI (or maybe just just doesn't react well) so those prescribed amt may have found it impracticable for daily use (having to avoid meats, dairy, etc)
5. It could be neuro-toxic and regular use could be very damaging.
6. (I REALLY HOPE NOT) too many people died.

I really wish government's stopped the scare mongering and actually commissioned some research into these RCs.
 
Difficult to get into the mind of a 60s era soviet politician but my guess is it got caught up in the whole psychedelic hysteria of the 60s. Probably didn't want the west thinking they were "decadent" for having psychedelic drugs available.
 
peyoteshaman said:
I know that aMT is rumored to be an MAOI (has this been confirmed) and MAOIs shouldn't been mixed with other drugs so what do you think a combo would be like?



pretty bad nausea
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There are also rumours about aMT being a very moderate MAOI not any means stronger then amfetamine. And I read rapports about people combining San Pedro with Peganum Harmala preperarations, an MAOI, for potentiation with good results. So if you decide to try start low and work your way up. It seems like a intriguing experience except for the possible pretty bad nausea.

Never took Mescaline but aMT gave me horrible body load, but no naussea. I would love to experiment some more with aMT but I am too chicken. And I know there is something there ...
 
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