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MERRY XMAS PD Thread- Here's to a discombobulating Christmas

Happy vegetarian Christmas (who cares what you call it, it's the same damn celebration). Take some time in your trips to think about all the animals that suffered so all you meat-eaters could fill your greasy faces with flesh in this holiday of repugnant extravagance.

I'm not having any Christmas dinners, nor am I exhanging any presents. I'm spending it like any other day, playing the guitar and composing songs. Call me scrooge, or whatever you like.
 
I shniffed a 500mg line of Ketamine at 2330pm Christmas Eve so I entered Christmas Day coming out of a K-hole. I've spent the day lounging about it new clothes, a new ice watch and with a lovely new laptop which is faster than Buzz Lightyear. Now I'm sipping some strawberry tasting rose wine with the family after stuffing my face with a massive Christmas Dinner. It's been a lovely Christmas :)
 
Happy Sol Invictus to everyone! I've gotta work so i'll be celebrating proper with my family later in the week. Hope everyone here has an enjoyable winter solstice festival lol. Stay safe out there!
 
Happy vegetarian Christmas (who cares what you call it, it's the same damn celebration). Take some time in your trips to think about all the animals that suffered so all you meat-eaters could fill your greasy faces with flesh in this holiday of repugnant extravagance.

I'm not having any Christmas dinners, nor am I exhanging any presents. I'm spending it like any other day, playing the guitar and composing songs. Call me scrooge, or whatever you like.


I'm not trying to start any argument here but surely the eventual aim of any vegetarian is the immediate cull of all farm animals worldwide. There's no other reason for them to exist and millions of horrendously inbred turkeys would clutter the place up if they were just released, not to mention the feral cows!
 
I'm not trying to start any argument here but surely the eventual aim of any vegetarian is the immediate cull of all farm animals worldwide. There's no other reason for them to exist and millions of horrendously inbred turkeys would clutter the place up if they were just released, not to mention the feral cows!
we have no more right to life than any other animal.
 
we have no more right to life than any other animal.

You only need to look at our dental structure to know that we are evolved to eat both meat and vegetable matter, we are omnivores. Therefore our very existence is based upon the fact as a species we have always believed we have a better right to live than animals which we would consider food. We have just gone way too far in the other direction.
Obviously, i think many commercial farming practices are a disgrace and I try to eat ethically sourced meat where possible, but whatever your beliefs we are in a situation where there are billions of animals who only exist because we have bred them for our own purposes. Right or wrong, I'd love to know how we are meant to cope with instantly awarding them human rights, especially when we can't even guarantee those rights for every human being
 
I'm not trying to start any argument here but surely the eventual aim of any vegetarian is the immediate cull of all farm animals worldwide. There's no other reason for them to exist and millions of horrendously inbred turkeys would clutter the place up if they were just released, not to mention the feral cows!

I don't even know how to begin to respond to this enormous steaming pile of shit. Obviously you wrote this to get a reaction - well here it is:

Like most other deluded humans, you demonstrate the utmost existential arrogance as to believe that all non-human creatures are less worthy of life on this planet than the human animal. The hubris. It makes me want to vomit.

I don't normally talk about my vegetarianism, but whenever I do, I'm always confronted by gravely stupendous arguments such as yours. Let's break down what you are saying for a moment:

Firstly, you are proclaiming that there is no reason for animals to exist other than for humans to kill them for food. I honestly don't know where to start in ripping down such base ignorance. 1. Humans didn't create the universe, and they don't the govern the rules. 2. The industry of factory farming of animals only exists as long as people permit it to. Those animals may have been bred by humans, but it does not - by even the slightest margin - take away their rights as living beings to existential happiness.

Secondly, you are proclaiming that all the animals would clutter up the place if they were "just released". Again, this is such a myopic perspective on the situation it is difficult to know how to explain things to such a kindergarten level. Obviously, you don't just "release" a bunch of animals in to the city. You begin by phasing out factory farming such that less and less animals are bred, to the point where none are bred for this purpose at all. The ones that were previously alive die off naturally, and everybody is happy. I just know how this is difficult to understand.

We created factory farming, and we can un-create it. Just because it is a phenomenon which exists now, doesn't mean we need to use that as a self-perpetuating excuse to carry on such barbarity. 10 vegetarian people can be fed on the land that it takes to produce meat for 1 person. You could solve all the world's hunger problems in one pass, as well as doing a massive service to the environment (through various other complex means associated with factory farming of animals). And a vegetarian/vegan diet is far and away more healthy than a dense meat-eating one.

If any of this even needs to be explained to anybody, you will probably never understand it, because your bloodthirsty lust for meat combined with a circle-jerking jovial social attitude which makes you think it's normal will always blind you from the true facts.

I have no idea whatsoever of the logic behind your first statement - i.e. "surely the eventual aim of any vegetarian is the immediate cull of all farm animals worldwide", but you're either trolling hard, or you've taken way too many drugs and left your head up your ass the last time you visited the k-hole. In fact, it's such an utterly retarded statement that I'm not even gonna bother addressing it.

I just hope that those of you who make excuses for yourselves to continue the suffering of other creatures in the name of 10 minutes of gustatory pleasure at meal times will one day get slammed with some heavy universal perspective on the very hard truth about karma.
 
I don't normally talk about my vegetarianism, but whenever I do, I'm always confronted by gravely stupendous arguments such as yours.

yup, ditto

"but if we didnt eat meat there would be no cows"

to me that sounds like

"if we didnt have slaves there would be no negros"
 
I watch a different adaptation of A Christmas Carol every year on Christmas day. This year it was the 1938 version with Reginald Owen. The 3-MeO-PCP that went up my nose just before the film started lent it a kind of extra magic at first, but by the end I was too dissociated to feel any emotional involvement it the story.

So my Christmas message is that if your're going to trip on a long-lasting arylcyclohexylamine while watching a nice old heart-warming Christmas film, dose about half way through rather than at the beginning.

Tonight I ate 300mg DXM and watched Planes Trains and Automobiles. Great film, underwhelming trip. I'll dose higher next time I think.

God bless us, every one.
 
Happy vegetarian Christmas (who cares what you call it, it's the same damn celebration). Take some time in your trips to think about all the animals that suffered so all you meat-eaters could fill your greasy faces with flesh in this holiday of repugnant extravagance.
fwiw, altho i'm not a vegetarian i actually enjoyed the green beans and Brussel sprouts more than the turkey... think those beans were cooked in bacon fat tho... mmmmmmm onions beans and fat!
Obviously, i think many commercial farming practices are a disgrace and I try to eat ethically sourced meat where possible
and i've been lucky enough to eat lots of wild venison this holiday. hooray living!

also, i guess i'm going to weigh in on this "debate" (don't think anyone is gonna be swayed either way by anything in this thread).. if beautiful peaceful animals are being raised for food and put to death in a cruel fashion. well fuck we should honor them by giving their deaths some worth, eh? would one rather their butchered carcasses get thrown in the garbage and their death have no meaning?
not saying i would complain if this crazy amount of slaughter came to an end and i had to eat beans and cheese and eggs instead of meat. i love beans and cheese and eggs!

and i'd be fine with just beans, no cheese and eggs. but, look, if my cat were murdered by a stray dog, i would much prefer the dog eat the meat than leave the carcass to rot. yeah? i don't want my cat to be killed but if it's gonna happen please i want it to be worth something beyond a lot of tears from me.
spread information about how awful commercial meat raising practices are DEFINITELY but, ffs, don't let the sacrifice of those poor animals go to waste.

Survived Abortion said:
You begin by phasing out factory farming such that less and less animals are bred, to the point where none are bred for this purpose at all. The ones that were previously alive die off naturally, and everybody is happy.
i just want to make it clear that i think this is totally reasonable but it isn't an option that is on the table at the moment. you have to do what is best in a given situation. if i could vote to stop meat farming i would. for now i will use meat sparingly and cook delicious vegetarian meals for other people whenever i can.

Survived Abortion said:
If any of this even needs to be explained to anybody, you will probably never understand it, because your bloodthirsty lust for meat combined with a circle-jerking jovial social attitude which makes you think it's normal will always blind you from the true facts.
i'm glad you are aware how awful meat farming is but i think you are confusing things a bit here. it is normal for humans to eat meat. we have canine teeth for a reason. and we need fat to myelinate our axons...we will need thousand if not millions of years to evolve into an herbivore species. I'm not saying we can't do without meat just that, at this moment in time, humans are omnivores.
respect animals: spread knowledge, honor sacrifice.

apologies if it seems i'm having a go SA. i think you're a smart guy and it really shocks me that you see this issue so black and white.

OT: i can't wait to trip for new years and purge some of the bad habits that have been creeping back up since i last tripped.
merry christmas PD!
i now feel like this post is incredibly lame but i spent way too much time on this to let it go to waste.
 
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