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Mephedrone Megathread

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From where I'm sat it sounds like many people here are describing the loss of youthful vigour and exuberance rather than "the magic". The chemical is the same - I'm guessing it's something in you folks that's changed. Can guarantee you (from a personal perspective) that MDMA is at least as good - if not better - quality than it was a few years back. It just gets better <3

2cb combined with mdma - a synergy like you would not believe! THE combo for listening to music imo , total audio orgasm =D%)

Good... but 2C-B + 2C-D + MDMA is better =D

PS: Stims + Psyches = Bad Idea, Naatural. Keep them for seperate occasions for best results :)

PPS: On topic - sample of meph acquired. Will test in the next week or so. Hope it's better than it sounds :)
 
^ that's where i was coming from. For me mephedrone appears to be a lot more like mdma than to other people. maybe i have a high tolerance to mdma i dunno :/

i reckon i will steer clear i have enough fun on them individually
 
The meph is some good shit eh, lasts about 2hours per bomb, best rush by faaar is off the first one tho! :D Really clean head on with bombing compared with snorting. Havent snorted any tonight and its feeling much better!!
 
the amount of times id get home from a quiet friday night at 2 on a saturday afternoon, sleep till about 9, get a shower then bounce round to some1s house with two tangerines (coz it was the only thing i could eat) & a bag of pills was ridiculous. by quiet night i just mean sitting in my mates flat getting a drink, no party, no club nothing. used to be every weekend

Ah, I remember the joys of being young! :)

It's shit being old(er)!
 
Got 10g for my birthday on saturday, dont have a clue how much me and a m ates took but it was really nice :)

Got very messy after a large amount though, couldnt remember the topic of conversation if it was changed ect. The eye wobbles/euphoria were AMAZING :D

Think i was pretty close to the edge though, the next day my knees were purpley-blue and so were one of my mates which i remember reading is a sign you've had one line too many ;)
 
Hi again...a quick recap, i did M 5 weeks in a row ending a month ago. Bout 300mg each time. Was getting no noticeable comedowns outside a bit tired, the odd headache. But after the fifth time I definitely felt weak and anxious for a good period. Like ten days or so.

As for the heart it's very hard to say and I should know Ive had a heart attack. I'm 44, bit older than most folk here.

You certainly do not get - from my doses, in my experience - heart constriction. That feels like someone standing on your chest. I've exercised several times and I feel great afterwards as normal. If you want to test how well your heart is working, exercise. Do you get dizzy? Feel faint?

I can identify with this `shortness of breath` idea, but that may well be anxiety. What it does for blood pressure in the medium term is also open to question.

The upshot is, I'm going out `out` tonight and I'm going to be taking MDMA of which Ive stashed about 5gr, going to take 250mg, bomb half, bomb the next bit later. Doctors are not concerned with MDMA and hearts (Ive asked them many time ;) ) .

Meph may be ok once in a while, but the comedown - initially absent it appears - is different to MDMA. It is more subtle, it lasts longer, it is cumulative and it feels kind of...I dunno...poisony.

My 2p worth.
 
Hi, this is my first post, I suppose signing up was inevitable after spending so long lurking and reading threads in this place so obsessively. So I do apologise if this is a redundant/stupid/naive post...

Anyway I have had several samples of "mephedrone" from one supplier recently.

The initial sample smelled quite strongly of plastic/chemicals with a hint of fishyness to the point where I had to open the windows to get the smell out of the room. The colour was off-white, a slight yellow tinge, and it was a slightly damp, crystalline powder with harder lumps in it. I found that leaving the powder chopped up and exposed to the air, the smell went away quite quickly and it was far less painful to snort. I have assumed that the sample had un-evaporated solvent from the production process...would this be likely? My other <laymans> thought from some vague reading of rhodium archives is also the presence of some kind of unreacted amine responsible for the fishyness. The doubt over this worries me anyway.

I aquired another sample from a different supplier, and this material was completely different. Firstly, there seemed to be twice as much material as my first sample even though they were both meant to be 1g in weight. The stuff was completely dry, with a texture I would maybe describe as flocculent. Rather than a crystalline powder it was more like a fluffly finely granulated texture with no clumping atall. The smell was completely different, sweet smelling I thought, with a hint of sugary cloves and coconut. I thought maybe a different unevaporated solvent but I actually think now it may be some kind of perfume agent :( After leaving it spread out exposed to the air for a bit, the smell hasn't diminished and it definately stinks of coconuts. Bioassay of this material has led me to believe it may be cut, it is bulkier and less potent than my original sample from the previous supplier.

Sorry to be so verbose, feeling a bit wordy tonight 8) Anyone got any thoughts about the quality of their samples?
 
I can identify with this `shortness of breath` idea, but that may well be anxiety. What it does for blood pressure in the medium term is also open to question.

I have experienced shallowness of breathing at times when trying to sleep after dosing this stuff, but I often have similar effects simply from drinking and smoking. The only physical thing I have noticed that is definately not psychosomatic or anxiety driven imaginings is the occasional rare twinge of pain in the left and right sides of my chest, right under the ribs and in coincidence with inhaling/exhaling.

Could this be due to particles of the stuff getting into the upper respiratory tract/lungs due to over-enthusiastic insufflation?.....
 
I get those pains when I'm sober, when I breathe, at times. I think it's just muscular.
 
I've read this thread with some interest for some time, but I've never bothered to sign up before to reply.

First a couple of observations. I honestly don't want to discount anyone's experiences here, but I am curious about all of the heart complaints. As far as I've been able to tell, this is the only forum where a significant number of heart complaints have cropped up, and they all seemed to have been preceded by heart warnings by a mod who had never taken the substance. That is very fair and useful, but I wonder why they seem so concentrated here. My experience with 4-MMC for the last nine months hasn't resulted in any of these problems, even when taken to excess (say ~5g in 6 days), and none of my friends have reported any of these problems either - about a dozen of us. One thing that I'm curious about is how many folks that have reported problems with 4-MMC have experience with methcathione or methamphetamine. Most or all of my friends do/ I wonder how much of these issues are more related to amphetamine type drugs in general, as at least personally (and my friends pretty much agree) I would rate the 4-MMC experience as distinctly like a stimulant (specifically very similar to methcathione) and not substantially similar to pure MDMA. At least I'd never suggest 4-MMC to someone asking for a MDMA type experience, I'd be more likely to suggest M1. though really I don't feel that either are really suitable comparisons. So have the folks complaining about heart issues or blood pressure been strong amphetamine users in the past, or are these complaints predominantly as compared to MDMA?

My other question is in regards to 4-MMC's look and burn. Now mostly I've had 4-MMC sourced from a non-typical source (asian bulk supplier, split among a fair number of us) but both times it's been bright white and very "fluffy" - very similar to evaporated and scraped methcathione. We did also source a much smaller amount from a retail supplier in the UK that was basically identical (same initial source?). We wonder though, as a number of folks have listed a crystalline off-white or tan substance as 4-MMC and frequently declared it "better". Is that anything close to a consensus? It's actually the reason we sourced the retail amount. Related, I've noted a number of people that described 4-MMC as not really having a burn. All of our 4-MMC has had a pretty hefty burn - not as strong as say pure methamphetamine, but pretty much stronger than anything else that I can think of. At least in terms of the burn resulting from the amount required to be taken - it is in fact the only drug that I've felt I nearly couldn't finish a line of, though that's always been after a long session, never at the beginning. Even at the start though I get watery eyes, etc when doing say two 100mg lines. Related to a recent post, that burn sticks around even after a couple of months of storage, or when left exposed to air overnight or such. Is it really true that folks are getting 4-MMC that doesn't burn really at all, or were those more or less outlying experiences?

Also, can anyone speak to vapourizing mephedrone, similar to methamphetamine? Is it in a chemical state that makes it suitable? Personally we've never tried it, if for no other reason than it would be a large amount to smoke. But I'm curious if anyone has any chemistry or anecdotes to relate, or of there is a necessary process to prepare it. I haven't seen much discussion of that as compared to say MDPV.

Thanks!
 
I get those pains under the left side of my ribs - have done long before I ever started taking drugs. Other than a higher than usual heart bpm, I too have noticed no other side effects.
 
We wonder though, as a number of folks have listed a crystalline off-white or tan substance as 4-MMC and frequently declared it "better". Is that anything close to a consensus? It's actually the reason we sourced the retail amount. Related, I've noted a number of people that described 4-MMC as not really having a burn. All of our 4-MMC has had a pretty hefty burn - not as strong as say pure methamphetamine, but pretty much stronger than anything else that I can think of. At least in terms of the burn resulting from the amount required to be taken - it is in fact the only drug that I've felt I nearly couldn't finish a line of, though that's always been after a long session, never at the beginning. Even at the start though I get watery eyes, etc when doing say two 100mg lines. Related to a recent post, that burn sticks around even after a couple of months of storage, or when left exposed to air overnight or such. Is it really true that folks are getting 4-MMC that doesn't burn really at all, or were those more or less outlying experiences?


Interesting post. Having tried several samples from two seperate UK vendors I definately rate the sometimes off-white, slightly solventy smelling crystalline stuff much much higher than the fluffy granulated sample. Both burn on insufflation, the "smelly" stuff after being left exposed to air for a few hours stung a bit less, and the second fluffy, granulated, sweet-smelling sample stung a little less than that. I completely relate to the feeling of having to brace myself to take the line at times, and have generally had some cold water on hand to snort off my pinky finger immediately afterwards.

This new sample though is definately nowhere near as painful, the vendor makes no claims as to purity and I'm convinced it is nowhere near the quality of the original crystalline sample I had, and is very likely cut with something.
 
This is just something I noticed, no first hand experience at all, but since you've mentioned the purity of a recent sample I thought I'd pass it along. This is taken from one vendor that I think is UK based (at least their default currency is pounds). I've never ordered from them but I stumbled across is. They put this up two days ago.

Mephedrone and Methylone News

21/03/2009

We regret to announce that we have had to suspend sales of Mephedrone and Methylone due to suspected issues with the purity of our supply. It kills us to have to do this, especially as it means we have to let so many of our customers down - but we feel we must take this drastic step. Our products are purity tested by our supplier (who otherwise we have been extremely happy with) but we are now in discussion with several independent analysis laboratories to determine whether we do indeed have a problem - but currently we feel that our initial suspicions are likely to be correct, so have taken this step as a precaution.

We have become aware that this issue affects some other retailers, so advise sensible levels of caution and communication among the research community for the time being, to ensure you are all getting the quality compounds you are expecting.

Once we know the results of our analysis we will then be able to take further action. Again we apologise for this unfortunate situation, and to all of our regular and wholesale customers we have had to let down. Unfortunately we do not expect to be able to stock these compounds for at least 6-8 weeks, but other products are being sold as usual, we are sure of the quality of these, and will of course be giving our normal level of service! Please get in touch if you would like to discuss anything relating to this or any other issues.

For what it's worth though, our "fluffy" 4-MMC isn't anything new: I've seen the same stuff since late summer/early fall. I wonder if folks would be up for taking pictures of the various varieties so that we could compare? I will try to take a picture of a gram of the asian bright white 4-MMC, though I'm not sure how it will really turn out without a macro.
 
This is just something I noticed, no first hand experience at all, but since you've mentioned the purity of a recent sample I thought I'd pass it along. This is taken from one vendor that I think is UK based (at least their default currency is pounds). I've never ordered from them but I stumbled across is. They put this up two days ago.



For what it's worth though, our "fluffy" 4-MMC isn't anything new: I've seen the same stuff since late summer/early fall. I wonder if folks would be up for taking pictures of the various varieties so that we could compare? I will try to take a picture of a gram of the asian bright white 4-MMC, though I'm not sure how it will really turn out without a macro.

I have seen that notice yeah, imo it's a responsible attitude which blatently isn't the norm amongst the vendor community. Sadly can't PM you as I'm a new user, I don't think I can post pictures either until my post count is up but I have photographed all my samples and will post the images when I can.
 
I'm in the same boat as you actually. My plan was to post the picture on a website I control and drop a link in here (something we can do). Perhaps one of the picture hosting services would work for you ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=picture+hosting ). If there are issues with their rules that might get the pictures deleted after a while I'd be happy to copy them and put them up for you. Right now I don't have any 4-MMC but I should be able to drop by a friends and pick some up tomorrow or the next day and see how the picture turns out.
 
i read another one of those forensic drug report things at my work the day (some of u might remember i posted loads of info from one ages ago, about purity of police & customs seizures etc) & for the first time there was mention of mephedrone, 4fluroamphetamine(sp?) & mdpv. it said meph is commonly known as sub-coca lol. where the fuck is it commonly known as that? cunts are so stupid sometimes, fuck knows where they got that patter from
 
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