Mephedrone Megathread XI

[VAC]

OMFG, my meph source has just contacted me to say he can't get it any more

wtf.

this is an un righteous day indeed.

very un-irie

Clean out your inbox.

 

[Mailmonkey]

I was saying the exact same thing to my friends and other people, and we were all in agreement. I think it's better than mephedrone, Be interesting to see the results if you send it off.

Feels a LOT 'cleaner' too.

I agree too

 

[SpecialK_]

I don't get the meph as MDMA replacement thing. Two entirely different drugs for different scenarios IMO.

Please don't tell me you were being serious when you wrote this post?

Both drugs create massive electronic music appreciation - or for many music appreciation in general, make you feel great/euphoria, rushes, eyebrows for dinner, make you socialize and dance. It's as simple as that. You can get nit picky and say 'well I prefer MDMA for being out/mephedrone for a party' but at the end of it most people are taking either of those drugs for the same scenario. Hence the reason at parties you'll find a good few people messed on pills and some others on meph and some greedy fuckers on both. There are differences in effects but they work just as well for the same scenarios.

When mephedrone was made illegal, it also marked the end of the widespread UK MDMA drought, some people could get it but most couldn't. As the mephedrone prices rose up and it began to get cut and a cleaner, longer lasting similar drug called MDMA (baring in mind the entire UK doesn't know about Erowid/Bluelight/Drug Research and effects) returned it was only natural that everyone would jump ship. Standard street price for mephedrone for many is between £15-25/g, most people nowadays could get at least 4-5 pills for that. It's a bit of a no brainer for me? Maybe I wasn't enough of a mephedrone connoisseur.

 

[Smellmett]

^Amen to that!

 

[Mailmonkey]

Does anyone know how mephedrone is now being produced in India? Is it being produced there legally, hence the fairly consistent quality these days?

If so, why haven't UK govt, EU etc tried to stop India doing so, as they did with China.?

Or is it being produced clandestinely in India?

If it's still legaly produced, isn't it only a matter of time before UK/EU etc put pressure on india to prohibit production?

 

[rockstar 69]

It's a different synth but the quality for all this 'pre ban' chat, if you actually get proper Indian drone it is cleaner feeling than the Chinese was.

 

[Mailmonkey]

i prefer it. more stimmy. great. been getting it since last year late summer, i remember scoffing when someone put a photo up of this new shardy Indian meph "4-MEC" I shouted etc...

2 weeks later i managed to track down a sample of meph, clear shardy, just like the "4-MEC" i'd been taking the piss out of, but yeah, super clean, stimmy, sexy meph.

Anyway rockstar, your information was very interesting, but can you answer my previous question?

 

[Allein]

Cleaner, more sociable without speaking absolute shit and acting like a moron, you don't have to earn back your soul after either.

Its a case of YMMV, I don't do either anymore but coke lost its magic for me when it started to become quite destructive habit, the anxiety, the short live high, the cost and the fekin come down from hell, admittedly the come down from hell compressed into about 3-4 hours tops but non the less. not to mention the booze required.

Meph was cheaper kicked harder and the quality was consistent, I never suffered mentally from coming down but it did make me puke quite badly the day after until I discovered that if I used MDPV after the binge I didn't get the nausea....just 3-4 days of mild stim psychosis and all kindly delivered by her majesties mail.

I can still smell it now though

 

[trammies]

I always thought it smells kinda like sherbert or something like that. Although I never had Chinese stuff before the ban.
Only ever had preban of Indian origins, as far as I'm aware.

 

[Mailmonkey]

i think the pre-ban stuff was almost exclusively chinese trammies, and the post-ban stuff, that took a while to come through, is Indian.

 

[trammies]

Aye, sorry I worded that odd, I mean the post-ban Indian stud people always refer to as "LEGIT PREBAN, YO".

My right nostril is bigger than my left, because of the stuff, just at the ridge before it opens out into the lower sinuses, which I always hoped was temporary damage, but it seems a bit permanent :/

 

[SpecialK_]

There was some sort've sweet tasting, but also really sour and chemicall'ay (I was on acid at the time so its hard to recall) stuff that was being called Mephedrone. I didn't think it was at it just didn't have that really rush'y comeup or extreme chattiness. It got me chatting, but not much more than that. People were IV'ing the stuff and claiming it was but I'm wondering if that was just because of the ROA. Just wondering in case anyone has encountered similar as there is plastic bags filled with the stuff round here. Quite hard to just guess though from such vague descriptions, acid just has a tendency to confuse these things for me.

 

[botfly]

Aye, sorry I worded that odd, I mean the post-ban Indian stud people always refer to as "LEGIT PREBAN, YO".

My right nostril is bigger than my left, because of the stuff, just at the ridge before it opens out into the lower sinuses, which I always hoped was temporary damage, but it seems a bit permanent :/

I've always used my right nostril and have noticed I can breathe better through it. Not sure if it has melted away the tissue or I was always like that. Now I try to use my left nostril to even things out lol

There was some sort've sweet tasting, but also really sour and chemicall'ay (I was on acid at the time so its hard to recall) stuff that was being called Mephedrone. I didn't think it was at it just didn't have that really rush'y comeup or extreme chattiness. It got me chatting, but not much more than that. People were IV'ing the stuff and claiming it was but I'm wondering if that was just because of the ROA. Just wondering in case anyone has encountered similar as there is plastic bags filled with the stuff round here. Quite hard to just guess though from such vague descriptions, acid just has a tendency to confuse these things for me.

Never known it to be sour just bitter and chemically like cleaning products. Maybe it's piperazine? They always taste sour and burn to hell. Had some supposed mdma which was piperazine and it gave a stimmy buzz but no mdma feeling. Felt like shit when it wore off. I really hope it doesn't get ot the stage where people pass off that piperazine shit as meph as happened with mdma. there's definitely great meph about still. Tis a lot easier to produce than mdma I think as well.

 

[Safrolette]

There's definitely great meph about still.

That's good news. Would love to have some nice stuff again as a treat...

By the way, Botfly, ou must have a love/hate relationship with it, as some time ago you said this

You heart and mind will love you for it. I regret ever going near the dirty toxic crap.

And yes, the Drone is actually too good not to be bad... 8)

Tis a lot easier to produce than mdma I think as well.

But for how long? Most of its precursors have been banned

 

[VAC]

Lass asleep next to me, bump of drone on my laptop 'work station' (the bit to the right of the trackpad where there's a runway for my Golden Concorde) little bit left in the keychain 'stash.' I'm a mere mortal...

 

[botfly]

That's good news. Would love to have some nice stuff again as a treat...

By the way, Botfly, ou must have a love/hate relationship with it, as some time ago you said this



And yes, the Drone is actually too good not to be bad... 8)



But for how long? Most of its precursors have been banned

Yeah tis a treat, a fortnightly one:D. You get the urge after a week or so once the strange effects go away, especially once you get a few beers down you. Not as bad as some folk I know though. I know a guy who regularly hoovers an ounce or so every week or two, takes a break then starts again. Crazy fucker. He probably won't live past 50. I Wouldn't bother if it was cut to fuck as I resent paying much over old prices for anything much less than pure but if you use your initiative you can find reasonably pure stuff nowadays. Just don't bother with chavs/cunts.
It most definitely is a love hate relationship though. I love the high, convenience, duration, strength, price etc. It's kind of forgiving as in you can drill loads and not die easily, well at least not in the short term.
What bothers me is the metabolites; the stale smell that oozes from your skin the day after is fucking horrible; it all feels too dirty and toxic. Also the drained jittery souless feeling afterwards, not to mention the chest pains. I've tried cutting down on smoking whilst on it which I think helps, also moving around or stretching has benefits.
Guess the good thing about comedowns are that they make you think about the important things in life, at least for a week or so lol. My worst comedowns have come from meph as I've not taken MDMA enough to experience a horrible comedown apart from a bit of depression. Meph's very abusable unlike mdma where I'd try some the next day and it would have no effect? Meph just gives and gives but at the same time takes.
Oh well it's all good fun. Just try and guard yourself against the toxicity. Nowadays I always limit myself to 1g a session, I know to some harm reductionists that's a bit much but it's pretty reasonable compared with most users. I can recover fine within a day or two if i stick to that limit.
let's just hope it doesn't have any sinister hidden dangers not yet to be discovered hey...

 

[ColtDan]

Can relate to everything you've just written

been off it for 5 weeks now, feeling fresh. was hoofing it every weekend for years

 

[botfly]

Do you ever get that weird metabolite taste when you smoke as well? That's if you smoke of course. Whenever I smoke the day after, the smell I get on my skin I can taste when smoking. Fucking dirty. It must metabolise through your lungs or taste buds or something as well.

 

[ColtDan]

yeah i smoke. cant recall the taste when smoking. ive noticed on some batches they make me sweat in bed, like my body getting rid of it, never used to happen before. end up the nights after sweating and feeling shaky and ill, bed sheets end up stinking of it, proper nasty shit. dont recall pre ban ever doing that. but good job pre ban isnt around anymore, fuck knows what state id be in now. couldnt stop doing it on the weekends. made me an emotional mess in the end

 

[botfly]

Yeah it could be to do with residual bits left over from dabbing and snorting at the same time. I only tend to start dabbing when it's all gone and I start routing round like a crackhead looking for sparkly bits or licking the bag. But I do believe toxins are excreted through the lungs and whatnot, I might just have sensitive taste buds compared to others who knows.

I've noticed getting really hot from some batches like I'd be lying in bed and get hot as fuck then get stressed and take the covers off then have a drink of water but noting not to drink too much of course with all that Lea Betts stuff. That was during the summer of 09 which was pretty fucking warm and muggy from what I can remember. But i remember that time being equipped with massive euphoria; I've gotten hot like you mentioned post ban but without the epic euphoria which is bit strange. Not sure if that is to do with cuts or I've just abused my feel good receptors too much since then. I've definitely noticed warning signs that I'm taking too much like feeling too warm, getting nervous or even blacking out from lack of sleep. It's a very variable substance it seems; some batches not having as bad side effects, some being way more intense and euphoric but with worse side effects. That's the price of a grey unregulated market I suppose.

Not sure what to think about the prohibition part, on one hand it's good that it's not so easily accessable and 'unregulated' and the price has risen so you can't afford ti abuse it as much unless you know the right people as before but on the other hand, it's now in the control of the black market, cut with who knows what and makes people less responsible as in the idea that people need their behaviours to be controlled by punishment and laws. It makes people less self responsible. But that's another arguement for a different day. All I know is that meph is here to stay and no law will stop people from selling, adulterating, using and abusing it.