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Mephedrone Megathread VII: Misunderstood Marvels & Malingering Metabolites

MeDieViL said:
There are ppl that haven taken 10 gram in an evening, or ppl that have been addicted for 6 months without any of these signs, it is possible they would develop those symptons if they take even more but imo it only causes severe side effects in a certain ammount of ppl (unlike bromo dragonfly for example wich will cause severe vasoconstriction in everyone that takes too much).

I could aswell be talking complete rubbish, but it seems more logical too me.
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I know of one person who ingested 16mg of bromodragonfly without vasoconstriction that was dangerous. If the mephedrone 10g people took more in the same period, they'd get the symptoms (vasoconstriction is common to all stims as it works through the alpha adrenoreceptors. Just a matter of how much to get that level of alpha adrenergic activity)
 
Hmm yeah you can be right.

But is it vasoconstriction and not a skin condition? I dunno i cant explain the long lasting vasoconstriction, its definatly possible under influence of the drug but how the hell can ppl stay half blue for months after taking the drug? The mephedrone triggering ermatomyositis theory seemed more logical to me (or some other kind of inflammation thing).

Also the rashes that accompany the blueness confirm this for me.

I dunno id like to get your opinion about this.
 
I often find myself hoping that mephedrone gets banned soon. Even though I do enjoy it, I have to admit it would be better if I couldn't click my mouse three times to make a parcel of it appear the next morning. Makes it far too easy for temptation to take over.

I wonder how many of you know that, deep down, things would be better if/when it is banned? No matter how much you like the substance or how much/how little you take it.
 
VyperPunk said:
I often find myself hoping that mephedrone gets banned soon. Even though I do enjoy it, I have to admit it would be better if I couldn't click my mouse three times to make a parcel of it appear the next morning. Makes it far too easy for temptation to take over.

I wonder how many of you know that, deep down, things would be better if/when it is banned? No matter how much you like the substance or how much/how little you take it.
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Definitely best off with it being banned. Even better, completely unavailable, as undoubtedly it will remain on the black market. Ultimately it would be best if it was never created in the first place!
 
MeDieViL said:
I dunno i cant explain the long lasting vasoconstriction, its definatly possible under influence of the drug but how the hell can ppl stay half blue for months after taking the drug?
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If you trace the family history, somewhere along the line a smurf must have been involved.
 
Got a mates get together next month where a half a gram will no doubt be going spare.

Only ever had it once last year and enjoyed it enough to be interested in having a second bash with it but fuck, hearing all this on here doesn't half make the angel on my shoulder sound much louder than the devil.
 
VyperPunk said:
... it would be better if I couldn't click my mouse three times to make a parcel of it appear the next morning. Makes it far too easy for temptation to take over.
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Will it be that much more effort when it's a phone call away rather than a mouseclick then? Cos other than the risk of prosecution and the obvious rise in price and drop in quality that's the only thing that's changed.

Kinda worrying that while it's still cheap as cheapness, generally good quality and you can have it couriered to your door within hours or wander into town and buy it off the shelf and there are already people committing crime to fund an addiction to it. That's not going to change either. They'll just need more money and have a whole load more to worry about than going blue. Even the possibility of serious cumulative heart damage stops being such an issue then.

Prohibition has only ever increased drug abuse and all the problems that go with it.

The opposite is also true of course but doesn't win as many votes so digging the hole deeper is the only option on the table as usual :\
 
Hmmm. Whilst I or Mrs Orange have yet to experience any of the side-effects such as those reported here, I'm thinking it's best to end our dabbling with mephedrone. We've not indulged as much as some, having had around 6g each over a 6 month period spaced out to doses around 500mg in each session, but still, these vasoconstriction issues are too scary.

Fun while it lasted but ah, well - better safe than sorry and all that. Time to get back on the hunt for that ever-elusive MDMA...
 
VyperPunk said:
I often find myself hoping that mephedrone gets banned soon.
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monkyfunky said:
Definitely best off with it being banned. Even better, completely unavailable, as undoubtedly it will remain on the black market. Ultimately it would be best if it was never created in the first place!
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wow. What a un-Bluelight attitude! :p

Maybe I should hope that alcohol gets banned as I if I drink, I get hangovers that last for days and negative effects that linger for a week or so. Or maybe I could just not drink in the first place? ;)
 
monkyfunky said:
Definitely best off with it being banned. Even better, completely unavailable, as undoubtedly it will remain on the black market.
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Why should other (responsible) users suffer because some people can't handle it?

Prohibition causes more death than legalisation.
 
monkyfunky said:
Definitely best off with it being banned. Even better, completely unavailable, as undoubtedly it will remain on the black market. Ultimately it would be best if it was never created in the first place!
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How is that going to help? It will still be available, just less pure and more expensive. Its not the drug thats the problem I'm afraid. I'd agree it is quite fiendish, but the main problems are its so cheap, and too many people having too much around. They're used to spending £100 on a couple of g's of crap coke, why not buy 10g of meph instead :\
 
captain codshit said:
How is that going to help? It will still be available, just less pure and more expensive. Its not the drug thats the problem I'm afraid. I'd agree it is quite fiendish, but the main problems are its so cheap, and too many people having too much around. They're used to spending £100 on a couple of g's of crap coke, why not buy 10g of meph instead :\
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He was joking, homes..get off your soap box before you catch a bullet......;)
 
captain codshit said:
How is that going to help? It will still be available, just less pure and more expensive. Its not the drug thats the problem I'm afraid. I'd agree it is quite fiendish, but the main problems are its so cheap, and too many people having too much around. They're used to spending £100 on a couple of g's of crap coke, why not buy 10g of meph instead :\
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Nail, head, that kind of thing.

Not only is meph cheap - its cheap in isolation.

There is bugger all mdma. Coke that only works at £100g. And then this thing thats legal, can be delivered to your door, purchased with a click, and being sold at third world prices.

Put MDMA in the same situation (cheap as chips, legal, and with no real alternative) and you'd all be saying how 'fiendish' that was.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Put MDMA in the same situation (cheap as chips, legal, and with no real alternative) and you'd all be saying how 'fiendish' that was.
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I see your point, but I disagree. MDMA stops 'working' pretty quickly compared to mephedrone, IMO. Probably something do serotonin depletion...
 
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