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Mephedrone Megathread: Five heart attacks later...

The point is that the coffee meph you were talking about never made it to here and neorganics were never very big here so the information you gave didn't really apply and in context was misleading. All the vendors here seem to get powder/crystal from chinese factories (probably the same ones as each other) and it all seems to mephedrone, not that frankenmix of chemicals.

u still didnt read my post obviously.
After that for a long time, Doron would round up vendors. they would pay x5+ the amount and it would come from china, then tell people to cut it like this and that and either keep my label or sell standalone product/name (caffeine, not fucking coffee :P you do know the difference dont you or else you would be over there snorting dried khat or something) then people started just paying him once off fee's for the legit vendors since 1/10000 in china will just rip you off. im just saying this is probably why the "new meph" has little to no smell, crystal or a finely crushed crystalline looking brilliant white powder. because it has no ETHYLcath or caffeine in it, some people still seem to like that combo?
 
subjective experience is not proof, the effects could be in your head or because of dosing less due to the powder looking like more than it actually is. As I see it the powder vs crystal thing is a myth that needs to stop being spread. this is a harm reduction site not a bullshit rumour site.

Calm down - it's also a discussion site too! :)

We weigh our doses, so know how much we are taking and found that the best batch we have had so far was in crystal form. This was said by three different people without any bias from each other. Must be a coincidence.


I've had many of both crystal/powder and 9/10 of the time the powder has been a much inferior product. I was just speaking from experience :)

This is the same experience as myself and a friend. Must be a coincidence.


It's like ket crystals, when you crush them up they become powder. Same product, just crushed up :)

Ketamine has isomers and is also supplied in different brands, the recreational effects of which can be quite distinct to the k-onnoisseur... :)
 
All chemicals/drugs have isomers as far as I'm aware. The same would apply to meph, I presume. Another vague possible theory to add to the murky mix.

For what it's worth, I have also noticed that broadly speaking crystal has less nasty side-effects than powder. This is not a universal observation though cos I've had the opposite too. I would suspect that there may be the odd vendor who does cut their powder and also that there is the odd dodgy synth that would mostly account for these things.
 
Hadn't done a bomb in ages and promptly forgotten how it felt, in summary...

Fuck snorting =D=D
 
Hadn't done a bomb in ages and promptly forgotten how it felt, in summary...

Fuck snorting =D=D


yes!

on a separate note, have heard stories of TEETH FALLING OUT 8o due to excessive gumming, anyone heard anymore of this???
 
Someone i used to live with IV'd meph once against my concerns, he got no positive effects and had a very bad headache and nearly passed out afterwards. I've heard nothing but bad things about it, its not recommended. Infact, if you IV meph your endangering yourself pretty bad, and i dont say that lightly
 
IVing meph is pretty pointless, in my experience. It makes a short-acting drug even shorter, emphasises the worst sides of it (chest pain etc) and it's biggest crime is that the rush isn't even that great. You need a pretty hefty IV shot to get a decent rush and the side-effects greatly outweigh a relatively weak rush, in my opinion. I love IVing most drugs but oral is definitely the best option for meph.

Also, as so little is known about it I'm not sure what effect IVing it would have on it's metabolism - specifically it's known toxic metabolites. Subjectively it certainly feels more toxic to me.
 
‘Bubbles’ being made in Dundee, claims councillor
A Fife councillor has issued a warning over the dangers of a recreational drug he believes is being manufactured in Dundee.
St Andrews councillor Bill Sangster said today he wanted to alert young people and their parents to the potential dangers of the drug, which has appeared on the scene in Fife.

He said, “This drug is being sold cheaply and it is innocently called ‘Bubbles’. It sells for around £4 a time and is portrayed as a legal drug.

“However, I have been made aware that this information is untrue. It is illegal, harmful and can become addictive.”

Bubbles, according to information given to Councillor Sangster, are being produced in Dundee for distribution throughout Tayside and into Fife.

According to the Levenmouth-based Drug and Alcohol Project Ltd., the mixture in the capsules is produced in varying colours to signify its composition and strength, although cocaine is believed to be the main ingredient.

Capsules are broken and the contents are snorted, placed on to the eyeball, or swallowed by the user, who experiences an immediate high described as mix between ecstasy and LSD.

Councillor Sangster said he understood that it is being hailed as the new craze amongst the student fraternity within Dundee and is being widely abused, in particular by teenagers.

Recent enforcement action in Tayside has resulted in the recovery of two Bubble capsules which were examined via fast track analysis and identified as being 0.191 grams of mephedrone (4-methylmethcathinone), which it not a controlled substance.

Further recoveries are also being fast tracked through the analysis process, but are still pending.

Councillor Sangster, who is also chairman of the St Andrews and District Safety Panel, added, “I would also ask parents and others to be vigilant and if suspicious contact the Fife Constabulary drugs hotline.

“The more help the police get the quicker they can deal with it.”

Fife police spokesman Detective Chief Inspector Graham Seath, head of Fife’s drug squad, said, “We are aware of a developing pattern concerning this type of drug, but its relatively recent emergence makes any assessment of user numbers difficult to gauge.

“There is a strong possibility that constituents used in the manufacture of this drug may be illegal and come under the realms of current drug legislation.”

http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/output/2009/10/22/story13989346t0.shtm


Cocaine in bubbles... WTF!
 
Yeah, that article has been posted before and is so full of misinformation I wouldn't even know where to begin. I've seen some piss-poor journalism and some ignorance in my time but this has to be one of the all-time classics. I don't think there's actually a single true statement in there is there? Maybe one or two slipped in unnoticed. Suspect that was accidental though.
 
i found 70mg IV to produce a pretty nice rush. And the loved up euphoria afterwards felt more similar to oral then insufflated doses. (that may be because i was with my gf at the time, having sex and spilling emotions, oh it felt wonderful)

Shambles is right though, it made a short acting drug even shorter. :( And probably isnt to healthy for you (though im in the camp that thinks Meph is probably not that good for you no matter which way you take it)
And ofcourse the fiending...

I dont recomend IVing mephedrone, but it was something i experimented with and i did enjoy the effects.

Still oral FTW
 
Yeah, that article has been posted before and is so full of misinformation I wouldn't even know where to begin. I've seen some piss-poor journalism and some ignorance in my time but this has to be one of the all-time classics. I don't think there's actually a single true statement in there is there? Maybe one or two slipped in unnoticed. Suspect that was accidental though.

The only thing that seems to be correct is the fact that Mephedrone isn't a controlled substance - which kind of defeats the whole premiss of the story!
 
i found 70mg IV to produce a pretty nice rush. And the loved up euphoria afterwards felt more similar to oral then insufflated doses. (that may be because i was with my gf at the time, having sex and spilling emotions, oh it felt wonderful)

Yeah, I could see that it would be a far more rewarding experience shared with a loved one. I've only shot meph when alone which may be part of the reason I found it so lacking. I found that the euphoria and rush only really became more worthwhile in the 100-150mg range but spent many years IVing coke/crack, speed, MDMA and other stims so am familiar, comfortable with and expecting a strong rush when IVing stims. I honestly prefer the buzz from an oral dose and would rather save my few remaining veins for more rewarding substances as the subjective benefits are pretty threadbare, in my opinion.

I also agree that even though I'm not a big fan of IV meph it's more enjoyable than snorting the stuff. For me nasal is by far the least rewarding and enjoyable ways of using it.
 
First time I've seen it... but... what the fucking fuck!?

I know, I was a bit annoyed when it was totally ignored in the news thread. Noone read it and it just moved onto the next article. I thought someone would have commented about the article saying bubbles have cocaine in them and the powder is rubbed in the eye :D
 
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