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Mephedrone Megathread: Five heart attacks later...

Shambles, I'm not questioning your judgement at all here, but isn't there some conflict between harm reduction and not sourcing here? I mean, if a vendor is known to be confused about what substances he is selling, would it be acceptable to name that vendor purely so that others might avoid such dangerous sources? That wouldn't be sourcing as such, but would it be too close anyway?
 
Yerg, even though they are a dodge source they are a source all the same. So with that information some people can go on and buy things, even if there is a warning on the post that it is on.

There are plenty of other websited out there that will discuss sources and the point you are raising can be brought up there. I can see what you are saying but BL has a strictly no sourcing rule, even if it a warning of a bad one.
 
^Totally true man. I hadn't even thought about the fact that some people would be happy with any source, even one that was mentioned in a negative context.
 
^You can search the bluelight search function, it's much easier to get the answers you want. Thread comparing meph, M1, MDMA and B1 here.
 
^Mate, I just posted a link to a thread where I have already given an account of my subjective experience. You don't have to search for half an hour, you have to click on a link and read the princely total of 18 posts. If you can't be asked to do that then why should anyone else go to the effort of reiterating information that is at your fingertips?
 
^I'm sorry, I made a mistake, I thought you wanted a comparison of methylone and mephedrone. The link wasn't relevant, I apologise. Still, using the search engine is the simplest way to find your information, it's impossible to communicate all the differences between two drugs in a one liner.
 
Haven't had mephedrone since June of this year. The very first time I tried it was by far the best. I left at least a couple of weeks between subsequent uses but the feeling wasn't as good; more negative side effects, mainly the 'heart-about-to-explode-out-of-your-chest' feeling, became apparent. Basically the novelty had worn off.

Decided to order some the other day whilst bored to hopefully get back the feeling of when I very first took it. If I don't then that will be the end of mephedrone. Have tried methylone since, but not my cup of tea.



First time I took it I took 1 x 275mg cap (BL), followed by another one roughly 40mins later. Will use this exact dosage as maybe this may be the reason...

Last time I was on here the "best" dosage was a 250/300mg bomb, followed later by a 50mg line so both 'hit' at the same time; is this still the case? Rather not snort as negative side effects are more pronounced.
 
see my post here for mephedrone vs mthedrone with links http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=7651474&postcount=381

Given that at drugs forum there is not one report with methedrone, and nearly thousands with mephedrone, I think that the reason nasty methedrone keeps popping up is down to plain on spelling mistakes. I even thought you spelt meph with a th until I saw it in writing. So a lot of the journalism and experience reports could infact be meph, not meth. I have not seen anyone try methedrone and prove that this is actually what they just ingested.
 
Methedrone seems to be far rarer than mephedrone - have only seen it on one or two vendor sites compared to dozens of meph sites. I'd say the chances are that the majority of reports of "methedrone" are actually misspellings as you suggested, Phillop. Many mephfiends don't like the idea that any negative side-effects could be down to hammering meph itself and seem to blame dodgy batches/mislabeled products for them, from what I've seen.

Yerg: On the dodgy sources thing, Wahslab covered it really. BL is not the place for vendor discussion except under very exceptional circumstances like the recent 2C-B-fly/BDFLY tragedy and we were discussing this very topic the other night. Even there the vendor wasn't named on BL as they appear to still be in business. Whether anyone would even consider ordering anything from them is another matter...
 
Shambles said:
Methedrone seems to be far rarer than mephedrone - have only seen it on one or two vendor sites compared to dozens of meph sites. I'd say the chances are that the majority of reports of "methedrone" are actually misspellings as you suggested, Phillop. Many mephfiends don't like the idea that any negative side-effects could be down to hammering meph itself and seem to blame dodgy batches/mislabeled products for them, from what I've seen.
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My supplier has methedrone in stock, I'll get a 1g sample off him on my next order and post my comparison. I've read about the pmma thingand the reported cardiotoxity, would 1 dose be damaging or is it more likely an accumilating thing over a period of time?

That swedish news report about 2 suspected methedrone deaths doesnt fill me with confidence :\
 
Wiki on bk-PMMA:

"It should be noted that some amphetamine analogues containing paramethoxy group are known to cause severe hyperthermia and even death due to concurrent MAOI and monoamine releasing action."

I'd be really careful with it, tbh I wouldn't even bother trying it. Sounds worse than Meph damage wise.
 
My understanding is that, whilst bk-PMMA is more likely to cause immediate death, 4-MMC is more likely to cause lasting damage.
 
PMA/PMMA are supposedly less neurotoxic than MDxx (there's a study quoted in the methedrone/bk-PMMA thread over in PD. "Will kill if you even you look at the baggie the wrong way" according to one fella who's used it (PMA, not bk-PMMA) recreationally (and hated it) and deadly even in slight overdose but oddly enough not neurotoxic apparently. There's some speculation methedrone may even be safer than mephedrone at "safe" dosage levels. Although there doesn't seem to be any reliable info on dosage and at least two deaths associated with it. I really would give it a miss as so little is known about it - even compared to meph. I'm guessing there's a reason most won't touch the stuff even if it is only down to the associations of PMA/PMMA.
 
Some of these new chemicals popping up left right and centre seem to be very worrying.
 
PMA isn't new at all. Methedrone has been around about as long as mephedrone but is far less widely used. Even the PD thread is just a Small & Fiendy rather than a Big & Dandy - all of three pages and half of that's off-topic stuff about flephedrone and a bit of meph talk. Meph is just more popular - not necessarily safer. The stupid bloody names are quite a worry though as plenty peeps seem to confuse them - and that's without the (crytsal) meth and methadone confusions :\
 
I didn't mean new as in brand new spankers. I mean the whole meph things and the likes....they all seem to have some worrying side effects somehow
 
Does the quality of mephedrone vary from vendor to vendor?
I worry that some might be selling dodgy stuff. Some seem to sell crystal and some sell powder.
 
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