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Mephedrone Megathread: Five heart attacks later...

Dragynfyr said:
Anyone ever use this stuff to study?

I've actually found it kind of useful.. like for the first hour it's hard to get much done because you're feeling so good, but after the peak part wears off, so long as you can resist the urge to keep dosing (a bitch to do) you have a good 4-5 hours of boosted brain abilities. 85mg helped me sit down and read an entire organic chem chapter, and actually get most of it, all in one sitting.
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Meph is filled with phail in terms of helping me study because this happens:

T-20: Hai Bobbo, let's hit the books soon! MMMkkeh, lemme dose
t+10: ZOMGZ I m high
t+15: Should I study? Nah, fuck school!
t+ 5 hours later: Dammit, I should've studied instead of dosed all night :X
 
MEph is getting rally well known around a load of my mates in hertfordshire now, everyone seems to be on it at the weekends. Mad how its just suddenly become so commonplace. Given how many of these people are with coke and pills I worry what's gonna happen with all the cheap, plentiful meph everywhere.
 
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this in. I've been doing some searching around, but have not found the answer to my question yet.

I am planning on doing a methylone/mephedrone combo this weekend. It's my first time trying this combo and I am wondering about dosage.

Methylone is right for me at about 220mg, and mephedrone I have insufflated 200mg over about an hour for good effects.

Should my combo then be about 200mg of each in a bomb? Or should I assume that they will compound each other and therefore do less of each?

I know what the safe answer is here (do less of each), but I'm curious if people who have tried this combo and also tried each substance on their own can tell me what their experience is for proper dosage of the combo as compared to the individual dosages.
 
Yeah totally, the area in question in my above post has always been chock full of drugs (like all of herts really lol), the sudden explosion in meph is just a reaction to all the shit pills I think. If someone pumps in a load of good MDMA people will stop ordering meph. However saying that, the fact that its 10 quid or less per g and arrives at your door could keep it popular while it remains legal...
 
Shambles said:
Nah. Hopefully all the proper drugs will be unb& so folks don't have to pollute their body with the crap :D
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Governments are supposed to help their people by protecting them from toxins =D. If healthier drugs were as cheap though, Meph would certainly not receive as much use from me.
 
First ever mephedrone study?

Found this, Page 33 on here: http://pdfserve.informaworld.com/693425__913843029.pdf

Recreational Use of 4-Methylmethcathinone (4-MMC) Presenting with Sympathomimetic Toxicity and Confirmed by Toxicological Screening

Source: CLINICAL TOXICOLOGY Volume: 47 Issue: 7 Pages: 733-733 Meeting Abstract: 153 Published: 2009

153. Recreational Use of 4-Methylmethcathinone (4-MMC) Presenting with Sympathomimetic Toxicity and Confirmed by Toxicological Screening

Wood DM,1,2 Davies S,3 Puchnarewicz M,3 Button J,3 Archer R,4 Ramsey J,3,5 Lee T,3 Holt DW,3 Dargan PI.1,2 1Clinical Toxicology, Guy’s and St Thomas’ Poisons Unit, London, United Kingdom; 2King’s Health Partners, London, United Kingdom; 3Analytical Unit, St George’s, University of London, London, United Kingdom; 4Kingston University, Kingston upon Thames, United Kingdom; 5TICTAC Communications, St George’s, University of London, London, United Kingdom.

Introduction: Leaves of the Khat plant (Catha Edulis) are widely chewed by the Somali community for their stimulant properties. This is due to release of cathinone from the leaves on chewing. Extraction from khat and/ or synthesis of cathinone and the related alkaloid methcathinone are controlled under the UK Misuse of Drugs Act, 1971. However, other cathinone derivatives such as 4-methylmethcathinone (4-MMC, mepherdone) are not currently controlled. 4-MMC is promoted as “safe and legal” alternative to classified recreational drugs. We report the first case of toxicity related to 4-MMC confirmed by toxicological screening. Case report: A 22 year old man presented after oral ingestion of 200mg and subcutaneous injection of 3.8g of 4- MMC. He developed palpitations and blurred vision shortly after use. On arrival in the ED he had sympathomimetic features (agitation, 7mm dilated pupils, HR 105, BP 177/111 mmHg). His temperature was 36.3°C and he had normal tone with no clonus. EKG showed a sinus tachycardia only. He was treated with 1mg of oral lorazepam. His sympathomimetic features settled within 6 hours of presentation. Serum and urine samples taken at the time of presentation were sent for toxicological analysis. Toxicological Screening Screening methods were developed for 4-MMC using in-house derivatives of cathinone and methcathinone checked for purity by Nuclear Magnetic Resonance. Samples were screened using Gas Chromatography with Mass Spectrometry. The only substance detected was 4-MMC; no other drugs or alcohol were detected. Liquid chromatography with tandem Mass Spectrometry was used to confirm and quantitate 4-MMC, the serum concentration was 0.15mg/L.

Conclusion: We report the first case of confirmed, lone, use of 4-MMC resulting in sympathomimetic toxicity. Clinical toxicologists should be aware of the potential for use of these compounds in patients presenting with sympathomimetic toxicity.
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Surely a "subcutaneous injection of 3.8g" is absolutely ridiculous. I'm surprised he didn't have a flipping heart attack and die! Either the scientists were just as duped by the 'legal is safe' facade, or they were just terribly irresponsible. Doing that much over the peroid of a day, unfortunately, is not unheard of for some heavy users. But to administer it all at once is plain stupid (If i've understood correcty)

So thats one study done in the three years mephedrone has been about, which is probably the most widely used and fastest growing in use RCs worldwide at the moment. Maybe someone will do another study in another three years by the time half the world are using it 8)

Thoughts?
 
Hmmm its not really very clear or a good test. By reading this it sounds less toxic that we thought, which I doubt. I mean even the bit about eating 200mg + injecting 3.6g what do you expect of course there will be blurred vision and heart pulpitations! Pretty poor trial IMO.
 
Last night I had a pint with a 50 year old brickie who has been getting into meph, and getting his friends into it, and is getting a load in for Halloween, saw the local hardman wired out of his nut, also on meph, arguing with the barman who he'd split £30 of it with and who was bollocksed too, and then as I walked home I overheard one of a group of pissed upper middle class people going 'it's LEGAL, I know! But it was just like coke and Mandy. You just order it off the internet.' and another going 'I'm so going to buy shitloads tomorrow'.

This was just one quiet night and the pub I was at is not especially 'druggy'. This shit is EVERYWHERE and nobody knows/cares what's in it so they're chucking bags of it down their necks like sherbert dib dabs. It seems pretty clear that almost everyone I've spoken to about it thinks consciously or otherwise that because it's legal it's GOT to be better for you than the illegal stuff. I predict some fucked up shit. Last night I seriously felt like I was in a 21st Century Gin Lane.
 
^ Totally agree mate. Guys I'm in college with sell it, one even had been up all night taking it and came into college the next day still rough and slightly buzzing, then had to go home. Within 20miles theres at least 4 people who sell it I know. Other guys at work one said he sniffed 2g's the first night he tried it! It is ridiculous, people on here who've made an educated decision, then its fair play. I really don't like the idea of the people who know nothing taking multiple grammes of it. Too many idiot street dealers getting involved now who don't even know the product themselves. :|
 
Got some today first time in weeks
Its alright, havnt cained it yet but going clubbing tonight so i'm taking a set amount with me, so hopefully i'll do okay :)
Got phenaz and/or gbl to sleep with, which dya think is more ffective?
Feels good man ;)
 
How are you dosing the phenazepam? If its in propylene glycol then I'd go with that, don't eyeball it :|

G is shorter acting so would be my second choice after benzos (assuming you know how much you're dosing).
 
captain codshit said:
It is ridiculous, people on here who've made an educated decision, then its fair play. I really don't like the idea of the people who know nothing taking multiple grammes of it.
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This really is the crux of the matter- as a niche drug consumed mainly by people who were reasonably turned on to RCs and attendant precautions there have been quite a lot of problems. As the substance bleeds over into the mainstream none of the harm reduction information moves with it.

Oh well, more state pension for me.
 
I got home from work early for once and and was bored so decided to break open the 5g of Meph I got last week. I usually plug it but decided to snort a 200mg line to see if it felt any different. Fuck I feel great. Really buzzing now and would love to go out and party. Unfortunately nobody is available to go out :( I really need to make more friends. Why did I move to Cavan ????? I think I need to get back to Dublin and back to the partying.

Whats a guy to do... any suggestions :) :) :)
 
dubgaz said:
I got home from work early for once and and was bored so decided to break open the 5g of Meph I got last week. I usually plug it but decided to snort a 200mg line to see if it felt any different. Fuck I feel great. Really buzzing now and would love to go out and party. Unfortunately nobody is available to go out :( I really need to make more friends. Why did I move to Cavan ????? I think I need to get back to Dublin and back to the partying.

Whats a guy to do... any suggestions :) :) :)
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Rack smaller lines!!! :p
 
1st=good evening fellow irish BLer.

2nd=yes do smaller lines

3rd=your better off bombing the stuff imo

4th=be very carefull with this stuff=yes its brillant,but it can fcuk you over if your not carefull with it.

5th=there are plenty of party people in cavan,you got to find the pubs/clubs they go to.
im down the N3 in meath and im also a blow in but i found a few locals who share the same intrests as myself.

6th=i found a small amount of M1 mixed with the meph even better.once again be carefull with the stuff.
 
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