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(Mephedrone) - Experienced - Why I fricking LOVE mephedrone!

AngelsThreat said:
That is the problem, once u`ve started... 8)

I have to be honest, for first time, yeah, it took me over.Weekend started at thursdays, and at the last one, ended up in wednesday... it happened four weaks in a row, and after, when i start to "realize myself", find that so long period, and so often repeated sessions... can lead to make you feel in hell, instead of heaven.I swear,i experienced.

I hardly recommend to tell all the side effects, u were feelin from it, not just popin in with the head full of all the best tought, and explained it well... ;)
I mean,this is good, u shared, and it brings back the memories about the good side, but as you said; :X

Once u`ve started... It definitely tries not to let u to cheat on it.I think,that is why,and how they developed the compounds to effect so rapidly, like ul fall into blackout... :|

take care of urselves <3<3<3
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The drug isn't the problem - it's the person who takes it :\
 
As mentioned before I know the OP and I'm happy to say she's doing okay for herself at the moment, she's got some good friends.

I really do appreciate the concern from everyone who's posted in this thread, however I'd like it if a moderator would close this thread as at the moment the popularity is bringing more and more attention to my friend which is not going to help her efforts to stop using this chemical.

Thanks.
 
I really really love meph and I pretty much agree with rizlagrrl on the majority of points.

Where I disagree -

I don't think it makes you "cooler", when you talk up a drug a lot like this people tend to think you're an addict or whatever. People who don't do drugs or maybe are just casual potheads will not think that snorting any white powder is "cool".

I also disagree with going on long benders, 40 hours without sleep is just very unhealthy. Don't do it. Give yourself plenty of sobriety breaks in-between any kind of meph party times.

Meph is my #2 drug and my #1 drug (n2o) I have to stop doing because it's losing its magic so it is probably going to be my #1, but only because it has such a light body load and way way way more positives than negatives.

But it just is not as fun as molly. You can't do molly very often without screwing up your brain though, and meph is probably not any worse for your health than caffeine (not that you should go on long benders with hundreds of mg's of snorted caffeine either, but side-by-side meph is quality euphoric caffeine replacement)

You're also missing a major plus...it is cheap as hell, especially if you buy a bit larger quantities. It is way less expensive than buying energy drinks, and seems much safer (I once bit through my bottom lip when I drank four monsters)

As for downsides, it can make my jaw a bit sore, and I definitely get restless leg syndrome.

I honestly doubt that anyone gets blue kneecaps who use it responsibly. Maybe if you do 2g in a sitting or something. If you get vasoconstriction just take like 10mg of viagra and it will clear it up fast or prevent it from happening.

Finally some of my friends find it incredibly moreish, and while I don't have that problem (I just don't like taking more than 120mg because it makes my headspace weird) some people get stomach issues and will starve themselves on it. Best to not overdo it, and take long sobriety breaks in between any kind of heavy trips, it can't be healthy to not eat or sleep enough, but I agree that it is probably great for weight loss.

I'm sure it can improve psychic powers but I doubt it causes them, either you're a bit psychic or not. I am a bit psychic and I haven't noticed any major improvements from taking meph, however the residual anti-depressant affect does make my headspace cleaner which makes it easier to tap into the psychic realm, so perhaps that is what you're experiencing.
 
ColtDan said:
i don't understand why people cant control themselves on this stuff, its good but no way is it more-ish enough to go on 36 hour benders. i go on 8/10 hour benders and can just tell myself... ok ive done enough...save the rest for next week. are people seriously lacking will power or what
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I agree, it isn't very more-ish for me either. And whenever I do a bender I feel like detoxing for awhile even though I really never have a crash on the stuff. I can sleep on it, but I don't get very restful sleep, only a good sober night's sleep works for me.

But then I'm pretty anti-addictive, the only more-ish substance I've found has been nitrous but that is only because the act of loading chargers is incredibly habit-forming and the duration is so short that there's no way you're not going to do dozens of chargers.

But comparatively meph lasts a good 2 hours, and it doesn't have a crash so maybe you might want to bump it periodically to keep at +++ but it's not like coke where you feel like shit after 30 mins.
 
hoptis said:
Firstly it makes me cringe reading something so blindly and rabidly pro-drug on Bluelight.

Secondly, it's wrong, on so many many levels. If you really think all of these things about meph than you simply haven't done enough of it over a very long time.
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I've done meph on and off for several months and I mostly agree with op, although I think she's doing too much of it. You have to learn how to respect drugs and use them in moderation, but meph is fire and quite fun, definitely one of my drugs of choice.
 
whoremoaning said:
2ce really isn't for the faint-hearted, its a powerful psychedelic and I wouldn't want to mix any psyches with a stimulant like Mephedrone.
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I've experimented a bit with 2c-e and I definitely see its potential. But as much as I love meph I really do not want to combo it with 2c-e. Maybe molly + 2c-e sometime.
 
Yeah...bet you'll want to take all the secrets you told right back, once you're coming down from a meph binge... you won't be feeling as loving then, to say the least...heh YMMV though

A good meph experience leaves me with some big regrets once the ride's over. I guess the sober state contrasts a meph high so much because... well... meph is just that good
 
The meph high is good, maybe very good, but the fear of health probs, the long term effects, the immediate comedown and the next couple of days are more than a counterbalance.

I never went beyond 150mg and in a way am glad it is not legal in the uk so I do not have to exercise self restraint.

However, even when legal, I did not take it every week.

I ask myself if ther e is a possible safe window with meph. Say 50-150 mg once per month which will not cause harm in 90% of the adult population. Maybe that is delusion, maybe not, the science is not there yet. Meanwhile we have a situation where people are playing a sort of russian roulette, the prize being the undoubtable high that meph produces, but the penalty being possible death.
 
^ I guess I've not experienced the issues d1430 and stevein7 have. I love the hell out of meph, but I do use it in moderation, and I give myself long sobriety breaks in between any kind of real tripping with it or other drugs, because as much as I believe sobriety is overrated, I just don't think it's healthy to be stoned more often than sober.

I don't believe I've ever posted on BL when I was high on meph, I pretty much stopped posting high after a few embarrassing posts on K. I understand the risks, but I personally haven't experienced the crash that others have, it just wears off but doesn't leave me feeling drained at all. Unlike caffeine, energy drinks, or coke which all leave a definite crash.

I think the main issues are impure synth/cut product, doing combos or "hero" doses, or too frequent of use. Op obviously evangelized the drug a bit too much and she ended up addicted which made me very sad because the drug seemed to genuinely help her til she started becoming dependent on it.

It is not safe to starve yourself because you don't have an appetite, that is not the way to lose weight. Now if you're starting a healthy diet / weight-loss program then it may help the first couple of days to get past the major hunger pangs while your body adjusts, but it is not a substitute for food.

It is also not a substitute for sleep. If you allow yourself to get sleep-deprived then that is going to have a negative affect on your health. Staying up 40+ hours is not healthy, and will probably cause some level of delusion/psychosis.

Now an occasional all-nighter to get something productive done in your life that is going to help you reach your goals faster is probably not that bad if you take like a week off and catch up on your sleep afterwards.

But I do think a large amount of the health problems come from starvation/sleep deprivation and issues are probably closer related to that than the drug itself.

I also believe that nasal administration should be used with caution, it shouldn't be celebrated like you're doing something "reserved for celebrities or politicians" or whatever. Nasal fucks up your nose if you overdo it, oral is a much better choice, and if you do need fast-hitting "bumps" sublingual hits in pretty fast, although I'd not recommend overdoing that either. If you want to redose more than 20mg it is best to do it orally, and it has very little taste so dissolving in water seems the best way to go oral.

I did once combo a redline (my favorite energy drink) with some meph and I also tried a 5hr-energy with meph. These are bad ideas too, meph is plenty energetic as-is, and on the second such combo I bit my tongue a bit and it required some healing time. Granted I wasn't doing those combos to party but to get through some important time periods where I was heavily sleep-deprived, but that is not a good excuse to combo with energy drinks. However I figure driving on 90 mins of sleep when heavily sleep-depraved is probably riskier than being ampped up on drugs so I don't fall asleep at the wheel (not that I recommend driving on drugs but follow your intuition)

But quite frankly I just haven't had problems with it, I do have Raynaud's phenominon, which causes me to have vasoconstriction attacks when exposed to cold, yet I have not had the issues with blue knees or whatever that others have talked about. I think the blue knees phenomenon may be a result of bad synth, I have bought cut or bad synth product before and I just won't use that crap because it doesn't instantly dissolve in water and the smell isn't very potent.

So I guess my point is, know what you're doing; don't hurt your body by starving or sleep-depriving it, don't do the stuff every day, use in moderation. But I think on the scale of drug danger, this one is pretty fantastic for its risk/reward ratio if not abused.
 
The sad irony of this thread that rizlagirl began as a kind of eulogy to meph, is that if you look at her posts two months later on, is that it all went tragically wrong. still think its lovely stuff in moderation (no more than a gram once as fortnight as rough rule of thumb) , but sadly that for many (including myself at one stage) is a lot easier said than done.
 
The earlier comment about thickening heart valves - there are plenty of posts on the site saying meph is not a big problem in this regard.
 
this girl was in despair a while ago, I believe she posted a plea for help over in TDS. She hasn't been online since that post. I hope she's alright. Anyone heard from her? She alright?
 
I couldn't agree more. I have done it a handful of times, and it is by far my fav drug. I suppose good, clean MDMA would rival it closely, but MDMA lost it's magix for me years ago. Meph is a blast, highly recommended. Though, highly addictive. There was no "saving any for tomorrow" or next weekend, or whatever. It was all the way, and spinning records until it ran out. :D
 
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