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Mephadrone - 10grams b/w 3/4 experienced users - The Ghostbusters Charity Ball

Thou, it is indeed very moreish, and you have to deal with that time stretch of "we need more" when you run out, but get past the 6 hour mark and the want goes away again :)

And was deffo mdma po :) my tolerence level isnt existant with md as i rarely do it :) was from a trusted source, all teh characteristics of mdma, looks smell taste, come up was perfect, surrounding deffo helped the extended time "up" happy people great music no bad vibes, started to come down after about 7 hours bit still had that definite afterglow for a good couple hours after, killed it taking huge amounts of coke for the first time, most horrendous drug ive ever done, wil never be doing it again, hated it.

have you ever tried mda? its really quite amazing on a level with mdma. if only i could go back to low tolerance, to be fair i cannot perceive how much a small dose used to fuck me up (first time was half an e pill and i was going for about 5 hours). dont lose the honeymoon by never letting it get past this stage. now i need about 250 mg for four hours of intense but quickly over joy. not so magical
 
Po, sourcing things is the problem where i am, and im very picky about what i do and where i get it from, i always do tester line and wait atleast an hour before continueing to make sure i havent been stitched up, even though i trust the source, it pays to be careful, been stitched before and it was horrendous experience taht i still feel i am lucky to have escaped from :S having done a pills a moderate amount of times on the fly, i can more than likely assume that i have had MDA before, such is the nature of pills and it being somewhat of a hit and hope (although i have only had good experience off pills, i fully appreciate the stupidity of doing random pills from random people).

actually chatting to a friend online at the minute whos on mdma and i find you get a nice happy feeling just chatting to a good friend whos experiencing the drug them selves, completely placebo of course, but deffo making my evening more enjoyable :)

folley - i have found taht in a rave setting, if i take to much meow, just like mdma, i black out and cant rmemeber shit, i went to a rave a month or so ago, was only a 4 hour free rave, but i cant rmemeber anything from inside the club, but can remember leaving and walking back to th bus and the 3 hour drive home completely fine, and continued on a bender for the rest of that day and night quite happily aware of who i was what i was doing etc, surroundings and settings i find greatly intensify the desired effects, i wouldnt recommend or consider doing 3 grams or more at a rave, ive done 3g at a rave and i shared alot of it with a lad i made friends with on the night, and i was royally wasted, its strange experience but one i have come to grow fond of. I however wouldnt be going off on my own and lining thru that much on my own, im always with a great very close bunch of friends, we take care of each other like family, and this for me is teh important bit :)
 
Po, sourcing things is the problem where i am, and im very picky about what i do and where i get it from, i always do tester line and wait atleast an hour before continueing to make sure i havent been stitched up, even though i trust the source, it pays to be careful, been stitched before and it was horrendous experience taht i still feel i am lucky to have escaped from :S having done a pills a moderate amount of times on the fly, i can more than likely assume that i have had MDA before, such is the nature of pills and it being somewhat of a hit and hope (although i have only had good experience off pills, i fully appreciate the stupidity of doing random pills from random people).

actually chatting to a friend online at the minute whos on mdma and i find you get a nice happy feeling just chatting to a good friend whos experiencing the drug them selves, completely placebo of course, but deffo making my evening more enjoyable :)

folley - i have found taht in a rave setting, if i take to much meow, just like mdma, i black out and cant rmemeber shit, i went to a rave a month or so ago, was only a 4 hour free rave, but i cant rmemeber anything from inside the club, but can remember leaving and walking back to th bus and the 3 hour drive home completely fine, and continued on a bender for the rest of that day and night quite happily aware of who i was what i was doing etc, surroundings and settings i find greatly intensify the desired effects, i wouldnt recommend or consider doing 3 grams or more at a rave, ive done 3g at a rave and i shared alot of it with a lad i made friends with on the night, and i was royally wasted, its strange experience but one i have come to grow fond of. I however wouldnt be going off on my own and lining thru that much on my own, im always with a great very close bunch of friends, we take care of each other like family, and this for me is teh important bit :)

contact highs are real and even better if you're around a group whos high
 
Tolerance is near the same for all serotonin releasing empathogens...


if you have such a tolerance to mephedrone, you really shouldnt be rolling at all. Your only setting yourself up for a MASSIVE fall.

QFT


3 years of depression for 6 months of pleasure? I'd weigh out the risk-benefit ratio here. There are better drugs and better drugs FOR you, messing with stimulants long term in high doses (especially rare new ones with little history of human ingestion) is asking for trouble.

What's wrong with a good dose of 4 HO DMT and a case of nangs once or twice a week, maybe a beer or two, smoke a joint, etc etc? You get my drift. Please be safe. Damage to serotonergic receptors/subtype receptors is no laughing matter. Hell, I've even experienced 2 years of protracted withdrawal from EFFEXOR of all things, a supposedly benign SNRI. Now compare that to what your doing.

Just my two pence.
 
If i could get hold of some of the substances ive read about on here, i would never go back again, however, its not what you know, its who you know.

just want to point out taht I am by no means a meow head, more than aare of the long term damage it can do, and hence the not doing it all the time :) besuides, right now finding a job again is much more important :)
 
Where there's a will...

I'm not going to settle for natural ice simply because it takes a bit of work to get a preferred Guiness. ;)
 
haha valid point my friend, I love doing meow, not gonna lie, but by no means is it a habbit, canny afford a habbit :) i never intended to end in a hallucinogenic state, wasnt aware it could get that far, enjoy it for a host of other reasons, part of why i posted this was due to the surprise that it happened and to share my experience to see if ithers have experienced the same. having found the perfect settin gand people of which to take a delve into the psychadelic world, I am now on the source for some LSD :) as with all things, i am very careful of what and who i should source things from, but when i find it, i am going into it with a massive amount of respect, and with alot of research under my belt. am very much someone who is happy to do a smal amount and feel nothing before upping doses, seen some friends in some horrible places from not doing that, am excited to finally see what it holds for me. RESPECT is the word when it comest o drugs, think the main part is i learnt a new level of respect after this encounter, and in a way it was a nice gateway into hallucinating for me, and has made me decide that i am intrigued to reach this stage again thru more traditional means :) it has hinestly changed my life massively, but in such a small way, if that makes sense :) ive never felt compassion and love for my friends liek i did that night, i honestly feel had i been on my own it would have been a truly horrific experience.

out of curiousity, have you ever felt the full force effects of sleep deprivation? something i am also highly interested in from a psychological point of view :)
 
Y M M V

That said and done, I myself have consumed over 7 grams in a session. Yes, I said it, 7 grams! Not proud of it, not proud at all. However, what is a dangerous dose for one person (ie, they take 300mg orally and get the shakes and blue knees) is not necessarily a dangerous dose for others.

I have a friend who is literally limited to three or four lines or two bombs a go before his knees turn blue. I can exceed his consumption 10x fold and be absolutely fine. His body obviously does not agree with the potent CNS stimulant effects.

Mephedrone, like any other drug, effects everyone differently.

It's a beautiful substance but again, like any other drug, it should be treated with respect. The exact reason it's unlikely I will consume anything close to 7 grams in one session ever again.

Be careful out there! :)
 
This is the first time I've heard it actually referred to by users as "meow meow"!

Everyone loves to shit on this drug, but I think it certainly has it's place.

To the OP - I've been extremely sleep deprived before (5 days, couple of cat naps) and the effects on your mind are truly out there. I can easily believe your trip report. I'm glad you're alright, and thanks for writing this up - it was an enjoyable read!
 
tis the uk street name for it.

and apart from mdma, its my fave drug, very much suited with beer and a close few friends and just chilling and talking for hours, deffo done the work of say 5 years in the freindship thing, in a couple months with a few helpful nights on meow :) have never been so at peace with myself :)

longest ove done is 67 hours straight, i recently did 110 hours with 7-10 hours sleep, very strange expereinces lol, ive seen miniture horses climbing out of hedges, snorlax pokeman lieing under a bridge, a transformer hiding behing a lamp post lol, tis a very strange thing, paranoia can kick your ass when youre sleep deprived, something a lot of people underestimate. im glad you enjoyed the read, this was my intention :)
 
My understanding was that a newspaper article made up the slang "meow meow" and no one actually used it, but you proved me wrong.

I have never tried 4-MMC on its own, only mixed with methylone. 100mg M1 and 150mg 4-MMC in the same cap was the sweet spot for me.
 
sampled mdma with copius amounts of meow recently, keeps the warm fuzzyness of the mdma that you gfet on the come up for an age, sit nuice warm and fuzzy for a time, tis the first time ive done mdma not a arave and i was very p;leased with its results :)
 
Dude i'm glad you had fun, and 'thought' you learned something or were connected to some essence. But the fact is, it was all the drug and staying on the drug for that long with those doses will make you trip out and think these things. You are honestly lucky your heart didn't explode or you didn't go into seizure. I have a hard time believing you feel perfectly normal after all these binges on serotonin releasing drugs, do you remember how you were before these drugs? (probably not) Anyways , people have already said it before you should think again about dosing even close to what you did that night. I know it was the best night of your life, but the days that follow that experience will surely be lacking happiness. best wishes-
 
I wish people would stop calling 4mmc "meow meow."

I'm really resisting the urge to revise and throw some digestible paragraphs into that things.

I've no experience with mephedrone and had no interest in going near the stuff, although I've done a small amount once with some 2c-b. The 2c-b overpowered it and it was like a cup of coffee and the effects of the two converged and coalesced in such a way that I couldn't feel what the 4mmc actually felt like.

I must admit bluedolphin's disclosure that he enjoyed mmc better than mdma sparks my interest again. I'm sure using it once every 3-6 months wouldn't cause an noticeable health issued, assuming habituation doesn't develop.

Interesting. I'll have to buy a gram and see what it's all about one of these days, or at least 4mec, which seems to be the the most popular of the new legal analogs.
 
Thou - I used to diss it harshly, then actually tried it one day and was pleasantly surprised. and i know it sounds immature and ignorant, but health issues dont bother me, as previously said, id rather die at 45 and have enjoyed my life than live to 70 and had a boring life! i dont ever want to be in need iof caring, because i feel tyhat that is not what it is to be human, and it saddens me that people live a souless life once they get old and there mind starts to give up the chase, i dont ever want to be like that, i dont want to ever be a burden to anyone, so i like to live for today :) thou meow is its street name here, force of habbit n all that, biut i apologise for the irritation.

Finished - I am aware that the drugs are the only cause of the differed way of thinking, however, that differed way of thinking has dramatically changed my life, its wiped out a long line of negative energy thoughts and process's in my life, i am full of positive energy now, and ready to tackle the world and help others along the way. as for comedowns, besides a moment of maybe 6 hours after taking last dose, where you really want more, and refuse to admit its over, i dont so much as have a headache. fel the tired after being awake for quite some time, but that is all, go home have a sleep say 6-8 horus and wake up feeling as if i hadnt done anything at the weekend. i know when my body is telling me to stop, ive measured heart rates of myself and others numerous times thru the courswe of a night, merely out of interest, and my resting heartbeat is exactly the same as sober, my mind is clearer, my enbergy is happier, i feel great, and that feeling of greatness (besidest he 6 hour come down bit) carries on waay after, last time i used meow was over 3 weeks ago, and due to the night spent with good friends great music and relaxing atmosphere, my positive vibes are still great, ive had no dodgy health feelings since, no out of breath for no reasons, no nothing. compare it to alcohol the day after. which poisons your body, which millions of people do to the point of near death where they are hospitalised. where you wake up the next day feeling like spmeone dropped a nail bomb inside you were all your organs have taaken a batteriong, where you suffer a headache for the whole next day and it takes 2 days to feel good again! i appreciate the well wishes, and wish you all the best in your ventures aswell :)

im surprised on such a forum to be honest. has anyone considered there may be no long term effects? unlikely im sure, but still all the same, some of you seem to be brain washed. for example, i have been chastised in this thread a few times now for being ignorant of the drug and abusing it to the point of stupidity, yet in other threads i see the same people asking questions and showing serious interest in taking crystal meth! what is that all about? that shit is fucking dangerous, the 3 drugs i will not use, crack, heroin and crystal meth, yet i see moderators asking questions of interest on all 3.

excuse me if im missing something but i would rather risk snorting 3-5 grams of meow in a 24 hour period, to injecting half a gram of crystal meth into my arm!

id just like to point out aswell to those that cannot seemingly read, that this IS NOT A REGULAR THING! i only use drugs at raves and the recurring after party chillout seession with friends, i maybe go to 2 raves am onth if im lucky and the money is there!

there are people takiking of smoking ICE everyday, go moan to them how dangerous it is!

i appreciate that all you are trying to do is spread awareness, but it really does grate that its all abit backwards, heroin ruins lives, ice ruins lives, crack ruins lives, yet there has been more active discourement in this thread than in any of the reports on this page!

i apologise for the poor typing, somewhat tired and its dark.

Peace

<3
 
You're the one being brainwashed by the drug if you truly believe it's safe to be taking it. If you've only read trip reports about people having fun on it then you've only skimmed the top. Sure it can change your attitude in a positive way but it's rather physically corrosive. You've stated that you don't care about how long you live until. You can be 70 and not have lived a boring life, if you do it right. Not everybody wants to rush through life & be done by 45. The fact that you don't do it habitually is good. I still stick to that I believe you do too much when you do decide to have an occasion, though. & I'm speaking from experience, I've been there too. Ultimately, it shouldn't be worth it.(the excess) The negatives should end up outweighing the positive. And that is something a good life changing experience should teach you. It shouldn't teach you that life is all about living fast & dying young.
If you were to stick to a regimen of doing a gram every few months, then I think you would be minimizing the harm and preserving your life a little better. How you see that as chastising is beyond me. I'll provide you with some links, once & for all, since you're making claims such as :
im surprised on such a forum to be honest. has anyone considered there may be no long term effects? unlikely im sure, but still all the same, some of you seem to be brain washed. for example, i have been chastised in this thread a few times now for being ignorant of the drug and abusing it to the point of stupidity, yet in other threads i see the same people asking questions and showing serious interest in taking crystal meth!
... If you read around enough there is decent evidence on the web that would suggest 4-mmc could certainly be more dangerous than Methamphetamine. Of course they all have potential for abuse. So if a member is asking questions about it, people are going to try to point them in the direction that leads to the best way of doing it in an attempt to assist them from being put in harm's way. So hopefully they can live until they're 70.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/439578-How-toxic-is-Mephedrone
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/457690-mephedrone-long-term-negative-effects-progress-reports
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/422498-Mephedrone-What-do-we-know
 
I'm not judging you, I'm analyzing your actions & I'm stating facts. And also 10 grams split between 4 people in one session is still WAY too much. If you had done your research you would have found that you shouldn't be going over a half of a gram in one session. Anything beyond that then you're asking for trouble. And you found it, but you thought it was fun so I'm at a loss of advice to give you as you seem like you're honey mooning with this drug way too hard to listen to anyone who is trying to help you. Luckily I am at home so I can bask in my assumptions. Please find me someone here who will agree what you did was perfectly safe. I'm afraid you just don't realize the dangers yet. You could have done damage to both your heart and your brain. Just because you felt fine and thought you were sober(how you thought that is beyond me) does not mean this is something you should continue doing. I would be considering myself lucky right now if I were you.

If you would like me to share some links to threads that can tell you more about Mephedrone and Mephedrone abuse I'll gladly retrieve some for you, but if you're just going to keep trying to justify your actions to me then I guess you don't want the help.

Not that I'm in anyway condoning this behaviour but they probably didnt even have 10 grams between the four. Unless he is "in" with the guy he's gonna get .6's-1g's so could of had 6 grams between 4. Then you know what snorting is like, they aint lickin the DVD case everytime so alot of its getting lost.
 
Assumptions.....

Im done with this debate, its pointless... and if you think crystal meth isnt as bad as meow i really am done with this. sometimes a potential health problem isnt as important as having a good time.

Ill end by saying im not condoning my activities, nor saying others should do them, just been lurking for a while on this site reading trip reports and thought i would contribute. there are some insanely dangerous trip reports on here, nights with cocktails of dangerous drugs, much more so than meow, and its laughed about... different strokes for different folks, i never came here to offend anyone, but seems the rules change on personal preference :)

Peace
 
You haven't offended anyone.
Assumptions, yes. Your argument that it's safe, is also an assumption.
Be aware & be careful.
 
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