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has anyone got any suggestions on how 2 live with depression/schioprenea (i cant spell 4 shit) how to sleep better at night,get rid of the social stigmas,how to tell reallity from your own mind.....sorry its not much 2 go on,not very gd at this,would be nice to hear your thoughts......while hear has anyone ever undergone psyhcadellic psyhco-therapy???
 
Have you considered or have you seen a shrink? I have read some research claiming shrooms were helpful with Obesessive Compulsive Disorder but Schizo is pretty serious, depending on how serious your issue is. Judging by your post it sounds like you are having problems determining reality. There is no easy answer....I am OCD/Bipolar myself and I have had two complete meltdowns, I am regulated on the right meds now though and I'm able to cope pretty well. Now I won't lie it took me having a breakdown to go see a shrink about 7 years ago. I was self medicating b4 that with nonstop Ecstasy tabs on the weekend and shrooms, mescaline, lsd, and many other drugs really. In the end though this did nothing but just prolong the inevitable, although it was fun, lol. I wouldn't reccomend self medicating on Psychs. I'm sure they are beneficial but when done properly by a professional. I do wish they would do more research in the U.S. for these drugs...I believe they could work if done right.
 
You need to speak to a medical professional. People suffering from psychiatric problems like the ones you're talking about should not take psychedelic drugs unless they're under the direction and supervision of a professional.
 
been to a shrink and am having counciling, and i was o 600mg a day of seroqel(quetiapine) but now on olanzipine 10mg seems 2 be workin better,jus wanna get a gd nights sleep,and be as happy as i posbily can whilst livivng with this.....each day as it comes
 
has anyone got any suggestions on how 2 live with depression/schioprenea (i cant spell 4 shit) how to sleep better at night,get rid of the social stigmas,how to tell reallity from your own mind.....sorry its not much 2 go on,not very gd at this,would be nice to hear your thoughts......while hear has anyone ever undergone psyhcadellic psyhco-therapy???

The best advice I can give for schizoid/psychotic symptoms is to stop all drug use immediately. There was a period in my life when I thought I was schizophrenic, I even ended up in a psychiatric ward and given haldol injections and all that fun stuff, and it was really a drug problem. Have you been diagnosed as schizophrenic? If you have, understand that this is a diagnosis, not a death sentence. With a combination of medication and therapy, you can stop experiencing symptoms. The problem with schizophrenics is they can get so paranoid about the mental health social field that they don't seek out the help they need. The earlier you get treatment (and for all I know you're already getting treatment), the better your prognosis is.

For distinguishing psychotic thoughts from normal thoughts, what worked for me was meditation. It's really easy you don't have to sit still in the lotus position for hours. Just become aware of the sensation of your breath passing in and out of your mouth and nose. Your mind will still be going in the background but you simply focus your attention on the breath. Your internal monologue/dialogue will still be running its mouth, but you just choose to let it do that and focus on your breathing. This simple practice can really allow you to quiet your mind down a lot. Once you're good at quieting your mind, you will be better at distinguishing psychotic thoughts from normal thoughts. This meditation/mindfulness practice can be done at any time, I do it while I'm doing dishes, just whenever I feel like it. The only reason I'm not doing it right now is because I'm writing this so I need to engage with my internal mono/dialogue a bit more.

Now the problem is everybody has psychotic thoughts. My father got a DUI and had all this bad shit happen to him, and he's convinced "god would never put me through even more bullshit". Because of this belief he went outside in hurricane-force winds to save his motorcycle. That's objectively deluded thinking, but everybody has some deluded thinking. You just need to choose which thoughts are worth having and which are better ignored. I still get these paranoid instincts, like I believe every sketchy looking black guy is an undercover cop, but I choose to ignore those thoughts. It was breathing techniques/meditation that allowed me to do this.

Whatever you do, DON'T smoke marijuana, DON'T take stimulants, DON'T take psychedelics. They will make your problem much worse. When I was going through my crazy period I thought I could trip my way out of it. THIS MADE THINGS MUCH, MUCH WORSE. I became very isolated and lonely because nobody saw the world as I did (my perception of the world was ludicrously delusional). And honestly I had to go to an emergency room and be institutionalized for almost two weeks to get better.

You don't necessarily have schizophrenia, this could be drug-induced psychosis. Mine was, and I was seriously acting like a schizophrenic person towards the end.

For sleep, man sleep can be difficult, especially if you're on an antipsychotic drug that can make you feel restless and make your muscles all weird. What worked for me is setting a stable bed-time of 11 pm. I take a melatonin about 1.5 hours before hand. And when 11 comes around, no matter how worked up I feel or what's going on in my head (and what's going on in my head is just getting more and more sane every day I don't use drugs), I lie down in bed with a sleep-mask on. I don't think "I'm going to go to sleep now! I'd better sleep or my psychosis will get worse!" I think "I'm tired after a long day, I'm giving my body and mind a chance to rest". So I just lie down and toss and turn and I get to sleep somehow. I can't seem to get more than 6 hours of sleep but 6 hours is fine, I used to sleep like 12, I think all the drugs I did did something to my circadian rhythm.

Edit: I see you're already seeing a psychiatrist and a counselor. That's great! I love my counselor/therapist, for me personally my meetings with him have done more to help the psychosis than the antipsychotic drug I'm on.
 
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thank you thats incredibly helpful :) my world is very delusional atm,very on edge an anxious,im not goin in2 detail on here,pm me if ur curious.i think sumthin an then it trails off in2 completely ludacrus thoughts but i cant help it because its sooooo real,makes me think it is real,then i think hang on the quack said its this an that...........tried ending my life on a few occasions,felt it was the only way sumtimes i still feel like this.....i jus wanna be happy an safe
 
thank you thats incredibly helpful :) my world is very delusional atm,very on edge an anxious,im not goin in2 detail on here,pm me if ur curious.i think sumthin an then it trails off in2 completely ludacrus thoughts but i cant help it because its sooooo real,makes me think it is real,then i think hang on the quack said its this an that...........tried ending my life on a few occasions,felt it was the only way sumtimes i still feel like this.....i jus wanna be happy an safe

Yeah man you have to hang in there. I got suicidal myself at one point, for precisely the same reason. I notice in your first post there are lots of spelling mistakes and whatnot, are you having trouble controlling fine motor movements? Are you experiencing a lot of muscle stiffness? When you lift your arm up and drop it down do you feel this sort of "cog-wheel" motion? Because those are all classic side effects of pretty much any antipsychotic drug, what worked for me was 2mg/day of cogentin, it's an anticholinergic though and can make you feel a little loopy so you want to hit the lowest dose possible with it. There are other meds used to treat the muscle stiffness, some people even get prescribed benadryl (another drug with anticholinergic properties).

The thinking can get truly bizarre and it can be disturbing. I'll shoot you a PM about mine.
 
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