Men hallucinate after eating fish

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Men hallucinate after eating fish
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*WARNING* the above picture which was shown in the article is not hallucinogenic. it can in fact be highly toxic. DONT be stupid and and consume this fish.




Two men have suffered terrifying visual and auditory hallucinations after eating poisonous fish in Mediterranean restaurants.

According to a clinical study on the patients, which is due to be published in the journal Clinical Toxicology, the men started seeing and hearing terrifying things after contracting a rare form of hallucinogenic poisoning from the fish they were dining on.

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism, or hallucinogenic fish poisoning, is caused by eating the heads or body parts of certain species of reef fish and has previously only been recorded from the Indo Pacific.

The effects of eating ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as certain mullet, goatfish, tangs, damsels and rabbitfish, are believed to be similar to LSD, and may include vivid and terrifying auditory and visual hallucinations. This has given rise to the collective common name for ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes of "dream fish".

Pommier and de Haro of the Toxicovigilance Centre Antipoison at Marseille's Hospital Salvator, who undertook the study, said that the men had both eaten a fish called Sarpa salpa, and subsequently suffered from CNS disturbances including terrifying hallucinations and nightmares.

One of the men, a 40-year old, was admitted to hospital suffering from a digestive problem and terrifying visual and auditory hallucinations, which took 36 hours to disappear. The second man, a 90-year old, suffered from auditory hallucinations a couple of hours after eating the same species of fish, followed by a series of nightmares over the next two nights.

The poisoning can start to cause vivid hallucinations within minutes of eating a poisonous fish and may last for days, often with no other effects. There is no antidote.


Ichthyoallyeinotoxism
Indoles, with similar chemical effects to LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) are believed to be responsible and may be consumed when the fish eat algae or phytoplankton containing the chemicals.

Others have claimed that different species of ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as Kyphosus fuseus, contain much more potent hallucinogens, such as dimethyltryptamine or DMT, which is considered to be one of the world's most mind-bending hallucinogenic chemicals.


Sarpa salpa
The hallucinogenic fish consumed by the men was a member of the Sparidae family and is commonly known as the Salema porgy.

The fish reaches a size of around 50cm/20" and occurs through much of the eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean.

For more details on the hallucinatory fish poisonings see the paper: de Haro L, Pommier P (2006) - Hallucinatory fish poisoning (ichthyoallyeinotoxism): two case reports from the Western Mediterranean and literature review. Clin Toxicol (Phila). 2006;44(2):185-8.
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(edit: thank you panic_the_digital for the warning)
 
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Awesome! I wonder how the 90 year old felt, guess that proves you can be 90 and still trip pretty good.
 
my imagination was making me think of being a dolphin, and, well, getting high...using my sonar to create hologram...hum...
 
im a vegertarian, so if anyone knows how to synthesise the drug in the fish then get back to me ;) :)
 
does anybody know exactly what chemical is in these fish? dmt doesnt last for 36 hours and neither does lsd. and if it really is an lsd-type substance where does the poisoning part come in? i would assume this is a substance that has already been identified and is possibly used recreationally already but i could be wrong obviously
 
This sounds similar to the poisoning at Minamata Bay in Japan in the 1950s, but the culprit there was mercury and the damage was permanant to thousands.
 
bRoken&foRgoTTen said:



Ichthyoallyeinotoxism
Indoles, with similar chemical effects to LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) are believed to be responsible and may be consumed when the fish eat algae or phytoplankton containing the chemicals.


This interests me. Algae and phytoplankton containing some form of crazy indole hallucinogen would definately be convenient. Not too hard to culture, add it to a smoothie. Whos up for taking shots of phytoplankton?
 
Psychedelics_r_best said:
This interests me. Algae and phytoplankton containing some form of crazy indole hallucinogen would definately be convenient. Not too hard to culture, add it to a smoothie. Whos up for taking shots of phytoplankton?


Shit, im in, i'd like to throw a net on a school of em and put em in the swimming pool, they'd be sure to breed then.

Make sandwiches and walk around with them for 15 bucks.
 
First of all, DO NOT BUY THE FISH PICTURED!!! This fish is highly toxic, and not one of those listed in the article. Its dorsal spines contain venom which would probably close your throat and suffocate you. If you want to know more about psychedilc fish, go to erowid, but don't just go around eating fish hoping to trip.

The one that they mentioned (Kyphosus sp.) does contain DMT, and an MAOI. So it's like fishahuasca.

BTW, was this picture included in the article, or did someone just put it in?
 
panic_the_digital said:
First of all, DO NOT BUY THE FISH PICTURED!!! This fish is highly toxic, and not one of those listed in the article. Its dorsal spines contain venom which would probably close your throat and suffocate you. If you want to know more about psychedilc fish, go to erowid, but don't just go around eating fish hoping to trip.

The one that they mentioned (Kyphosus sp.) does contain DMT, and an MAOI. So it's like fishahuasca.

BTW, was this picture included in the article, or did someone just put it in?


RTFA! hehe ;)
yea the article had that same fish in the headline.

good lookin out man, tellin us not to eat that fish there!!

im sure by now some kid said my friends friends dads uncle has an aquarium and has those fish in there, and well they said u can trip on em if u eat them.....*sigh*

its all about harm reduction
 
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