MEGA: Rap/Hip Hop DISCUSSION thread.

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Max Power

when was the last time that something good charted? in any genre?

The top two best selling albums of all time are pretty good.

Its fine, better than half the shit in this thread, anyway. And anybody worth their shit knows that that chorus heavy franchise boys shit is over now, and the Souf has moved on to doom-and-gloom Hard in the paint style trap hop. DUH.

First sentence is fine trolling there. Fine trolling indeed. As for the rest, honestly those repetitive beats and lyrics about selling drugs/killing people/fucking hos in the club all sounds the same to me so it gets boring quick. I can handle it in small doses though. Speaking of played out, this whole mainstream vs. underground rap debate has been beaten to death already elsewhere. And like I said, I got mad love for the souf anyway.

Anyway, back on topic. Ghetty Green was released in '99, just making the cut.

edit: LOLBLACKKEYS
 
Many classics have been mentioned, didn't see Jurassic5 & De La Soul tho.

Other's that everybody who's into rap music should check out are:

MF Doom
MF Grimm
Madlib
Quasimoto (Madlib's alter ego)

Can't think any others off my head at the moment
 
I just can't get exited about this thread , maybe if it were 80s Hip Hop i could .

The 90s were the beginning of the end imo.
But also their was some great Albums especially in the period up until 95 . After then things all got a bit money orientated and it was not so much about how you could rock a MIC or Destroy another MC in a battle that got you props .

It was how big your car/ watch n y'all know the rest.

Oh yeah Hip Hop Hippy your a good kid and i didn't mean to be hard on you , but what you gotta remember is that I Luv THe Juice Crew , they were my idols as a kid & Shante was the first female that actually went hard and battled with the Men so just for you HAve a Nice Day ! oh and i think she was younger than you when this came out .
Proving that age means nothing
 
Max Power -- you don't think it's a problem that we're still using standard markers our parents (and maybe even grandparents) used to judge good music? I think it's fucking terrible everyone can recognize a song from Dark Side of the Moon but can't name five local bands that are worth listening to. That's a damn fucking shame, and for me personally, I won't be using any of that shit to judge 'good' or 'bad', because as far as i'm concerned, it's invalid and keeping our generation wallowing in 'mediocrity' trying to live up to Father-God Pink fucking Floyd or whatever. arguing about rap on bluelight is just as bad as arguing about rap with /mu/tants.


the best rap music nowadays is on mixtapes from gas stations and singles spun at strip clubs, made for 100$ in some kids basement -- removed from the cash money machine and put out through creative and different channels. Lil Wayne maybe one of the most paid rappers in the game, and yet he still puts out mixtapes for free, because that's the shit that matters. No one cares how much money you make or what your name is or where you're from if you can't get people's attention.
 
honestly those repetitive beats and lyrics about selling drugs/killing people/fucking hos in the club all sounds the same to me so it gets boring quick.

I just like that I upset the applecart in this nostalgia-fest, that's all. You don't like songs about hos and bricks, that's fine. I don't need hip hop to go back to rapping about whos birthday it is. ;)
 
brimz

I just can't get exited about this thread , maybe if it were 80s Hip Hop i could .

The 90s were the beginning of the end imo

no way..;)
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outKast
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Swisha House
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of course i love the 80's
(even the whites had a chance in the 90;s!)
 
Max Power -- you don't think it's a problem that we're still using standard markers our parents (and maybe even grandparents) used to judge good music? I think it's fucking terrible everyone can recognize a song from Dark Side of the Moon
I can't
 
no way..;)
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outKast
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WuTanG
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Swisha House
(dj skrew = jimi hendtx of TT's/HipHop)
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of course i love the 80's
(even the whites had a chance in the 90;s!)

In the 90's anyone had a chance of getting a deal !
That was the one of the problems their was so much output from labels because "RAP" music shifted units that it was hard to keep up & so much good stuff was overlooked .
Every week their was a new thing !
Thinking about it the actuall point when things went stupid were when it became the fashion to have a R & B hook , a la Ja Rule , Murder inc . the name makes sense know literally . They attempted to murder Hip Hop !
 
80's hip hop!

Here's your god damn 80's hip hop thread in honor of me getting to see Afrika Bambataa twice in February and once at my own show

afrika-bambaataa.jpg


Discuss everything from Soul sonic force to N.W.A.

and some music to whip all you old farts into a nostalgic frenzy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfXKkNo7YZ8

www.oregonuniversal.org
 
That should be a great show , let us know how it goes yeah ?

Right so all my favourite MC s , & Crews came out in this decade.

The heavyweights who really got me in to Hip Hop were The mighty Juice Crew ,

The first Hip Hop 12" i bought was G Rap n Polo "It's a Demo" no mean feat as i was in England at the time .
I already had The Kings Of Rock LP & Marley Marl In Control Vl 2 .
I went Cold Chillin mad n soon had BDKs long Live The Kane & The Biz " Goin Off", never did get hold of The Marley Scratch though .
I was soon put on to Ultramagnetic n got a bootleg of "The Critical Beatdown" Ced Gees production on that was mind blowing & also made me get down with BDP , something i was a bit against as i was such a Juice Crew fan it felt like i was Dissing my Heros !

Around this time i moved with my family to California right at the time when Ruthless was at the Peak of it's powers , i was like a kid in a candy store having easy acess to all this great ground breaking music
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.I already had all of Ice T s albums but CMW remain another favorite of mine, also i got much Luv for King Tee , Bass n Act a Fool were amazing but Played Like a piano with Ice Cube N Breeze is among my fav. ever west coast tracks ,i no i've ventured in to 1990 but for me i started listening to Hip Hop in 1984 and from then untill 1993 was the true "Golden Era"


The DOC was the one MC that really killed it with "Know one can do it better" i still wonder what would have happened had he not had his tragic acident , i mean his writting skills enabled most of NWA to actually spit a verse ffs!

Shouts must go out to the mighty
Rakim
Davey DMX
G Rap
Shan
Masta Ace , who is still amongst the best , that Port Authority Album that Marco Polo did was the shit n also The track "A lil Young " with EDO G was funny as fuk!
Craig G , who was amazin when combined with Marley on " In Control v2"
Kool Keith
Doug e Fresh , i watched Beat street the other day never gets old !
Mantronix
Schoooly D
Kool Moe dee
Flash
Herc
Whodini
T La Rock
KRS
The Beastie Boys
Rick Rubin
LL Cool J
EPMD
Slick Rick
P.E
The Fat Boys

Plenty of others but but these guys were just of the top of my head .
 
The Fat Boys

"Whatever happened to The Fat Boys?
They shoulda recruited me,
I'm skinny making phat noise!"

RIP Charizma. But this isn't the 90s thread, so . . .

Big shout out to all the white boy producers out there, Paul C, Rick Rubin, Kurtis Mantronik, et al. I like your list Brimz, you forgot The Jungle Brothers though. ;)
 
the best rap music nowadays is on mixtapes from gas stations and singles spun at strip clubs, made for 100$ in some kids basement -- removed from the cash money machine and put out through creative and different channels. Lil Wayne maybe one of the most paid rappers in the game, and yet he still puts out mixtapes for free, because that's the shit that matters. No one cares how much money you make or what your name is or where you're from if you can't get people's attention.

The best music is found underground, you won't find any argument from me on that. Thankfully there is a wide range of styles to choose from, including for some of us backback rap. :)
 
Everybody talkin' bout the juice crew funny but your still telling lies to me.



Kool G Rap, terrorist, metaphor analyst
Fans I enlist and opponents I dismiss

Erase copy-catters, dissimulate data
Or data ( ? )
Dispel, expel, terminate well
You lift the barbells but you're still Cottonelle
I'm causin heavy breathin, at the top and never leavin
I'm not Starvin Marvin, but I get Even Steven

Chumps jump out their socks when my voicebox rocks
I'm a walkin Fort Knox with the strength of an ox
Marley Marl's on the cuts, sweet beats he conducts
All Sucker DJ's will self-destruct
Polo and G Rap, we will go real far
And that's why we're down with the (Juice Crew Allstars)

Craig G]
I have the greatest reputation for rhymes that I craft
And destroyin all rappers that step in my path

So all you path-steppers, you better stop steppin
Cause I release lyrics as if they were weapons

Rappers start trainin, cause I be remainin
The rhymes that I state will stay in your brain and
You'll keep dancin, I'm self-enhancin
Got more rhymes than there's rooms in a mansion

So to my opponents this won't be pleasant
You were good in '86, but this is '87

It's time to react, put records on wax
My rhymes gain more than visual impact
Ears will respond to what I'm creatin
I'll be infiltratin with the rhymes I'm articulatin

Don't say I'm wack, that's not a fact
I could never get bust by an '86 new jack
Stay in your spot before you get rocked
I'm not goin for it, so rappers just stop
Please heed my message, this is your last warnin
Turn over a new leaf cause a new day is dawnin
So bitin MC's, you know who you are
My name is Craig G, down with the (Juice Crew Allstars)



AND Thats why I'm Down With Juice Crew Allstars
 
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