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Psilo707
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fastandbulbous said:
Well, what I've been telling people in my area is that at least one of the types are straight up Morphine pills, lacking any sort of MDMA or MDA whatsoever.
I don't believe they were manufactured to be an Ecstasy pill in the first place, which is the reason I disagree with the entire debate many are putting out there.
There was zero mdma/mda in the pill I ate. I took them twice, once at a party, once at home.
edit: forgot to mention one big point that has not seemed to be said yet. These pills *do* cost more than a normal E pill in Southern Cali. Both in small amounts from local dealers, and also in BULK (and when I say bulk, I mean it). I wont get into price discussion obviously, but there is an absolute difference between a regular pill and a K-Cube pill.
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Ekstasis-//7
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I have found this discussion and the linked pillreport an interesting read...
Although I do not live in the US I would still like to find out the final word on what is going on here.
I have sent an e-mail to DDL (drugdetection.net) the orginisation that is reported to have tested the cube shaped K pill that was submitted for testing. The questions I have asked them is if in fact they test for opiates and if not would an opiate (if on the very small chance it was present) come up in the test as an unitetified substance on the ecstacydata.org page. I will post any info on this e-mail when and if i get a reply by DDL.
In the mean time does anyone know anything about the what particular substances are tested for in the GC/MS test used by ecstasydata.org? Can anyone confirm if the GC/MS testing on ecstacydata.org does infact test for opiates?
Originally posted by Psilo707
Can all who have posted such comments as this please post a simple yes or no to this question.
Have you ever taken a moderate/high dose of MDA in combination with MDMA that you can be fairly sure of?
The reason I ask is that the first time I had a very strong bikie that was MDMA+MDA (about 1.5yrs ago) I ate 1.5 of them and sat down. The effect was when if fully hit me there were these strong waves of very hypnotic, dreamy, slightly dizzy like intoxication came over me so strong in bursts of every few minutes that I remember some "waves" coming on so strong all of a sudden my vision went completey blurred, my head went down, my conversation was cut off mid sentence and I closed my eyes. In a few seconds my vision and conversation were back to normal until the next wave hit. It was pure euphoria and I was very, very chatty and lovey.
The last few times I have had tried MDMA+MDA (which were confirmed in the ez:complete testing and I posted a pill report on) these hypnotic waves were strong but not quite as strong as back then but then again I have not been so game in trying a high dose as last time I don't know if I was far from blacking out for a few seconds. I definatly had half closed eyes for a bit this time though as others have described on these K cubes. Which are MDMA+MDA also
I have taken MDMA at moderate/high doses and separately MDA and high doses and I can say that when combined they are quite a different effect altogether and I could see that some could get confused into suspecting opiates as it can really pack some punch.
Although I do not live in the US I would still like to find out the final word on what is going on here.
I have sent an e-mail to DDL (drugdetection.net) the orginisation that is reported to have tested the cube shaped K pill that was submitted for testing. The questions I have asked them is if in fact they test for opiates and if not would an opiate (if on the very small chance it was present) come up in the test as an unitetified substance on the ecstacydata.org page. I will post any info on this e-mail when and if i get a reply by DDL.
In the mean time does anyone know anything about the what particular substances are tested for in the GC/MS test used by ecstasydata.org? Can anyone confirm if the GC/MS testing on ecstacydata.org does infact test for opiates?
Originally posted by Psilo707
Can all who have posted such comments as this please post a simple yes or no to this question.
Have you ever taken a moderate/high dose of MDA in combination with MDMA that you can be fairly sure of?
The reason I ask is that the first time I had a very strong bikie that was MDMA+MDA (about 1.5yrs ago) I ate 1.5 of them and sat down. The effect was when if fully hit me there were these strong waves of very hypnotic, dreamy, slightly dizzy like intoxication came over me so strong in bursts of every few minutes that I remember some "waves" coming on so strong all of a sudden my vision went completey blurred, my head went down, my conversation was cut off mid sentence and I closed my eyes. In a few seconds my vision and conversation were back to normal until the next wave hit. It was pure euphoria and I was very, very chatty and lovey.
The last few times I have had tried MDMA+MDA (which were confirmed in the ez:complete testing and I posted a pill report on) these hypnotic waves were strong but not quite as strong as back then but then again I have not been so game in trying a high dose as last time I don't know if I was far from blacking out for a few seconds. I definatly had half closed eyes for a bit this time though as others have described on these K cubes. Which are MDMA+MDA also
I have taken MDMA at moderate/high doses and separately MDA and high doses and I can say that when combined they are quite a different effect altogether and I could see that some could get confused into suspecting opiates as it can really pack some punch.
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Okay just got a reply e-mail back from DDL (drugdetection.net), that's the guys who tested this pill for ecstasydata.org
here's what they said
So, nup, doesn't look like any opiates here... just a good strong MDMA+MDA bik. My favourite mix!
I have attached a picture of the e-mail just in case you want a little more evidence. (names blacked out to protect confidentiallity)
I Hope this clears the whole thing up now and we can put this whole thing to rest...
ps... silly American's... 8) then again my fellow Aussies are equally silly too... always crying "smacky pills" or "how they always throw up on a smack based pill"... Silly, silly, silly, I say read up on MDE, MDA and MDMA plus all the dodgy adulterants put in pills these days. Test your pills (or get em tested with a GC/MS test if it's available in you country). And above all don't just believe whatever your've told from some dealer/user/friend, check it out and research it for yourself!
here's what they said
So, nup, doesn't look like any opiates here... just a good strong MDMA+MDA bik. My favourite mix!
I have attached a picture of the e-mail just in case you want a little more evidence. (names blacked out to protect confidentiallity)
I Hope this clears the whole thing up now and we can put this whole thing to rest...
ps... silly American's... 8) then again my fellow Aussies are equally silly too... always crying "smacky pills" or "how they always throw up on a smack based pill"... Silly, silly, silly, I say read up on MDE, MDA and MDMA plus all the dodgy adulterants put in pills these days. Test your pills (or get em tested with a GC/MS test if it's available in you country). And above all don't just believe whatever your've told from some dealer/user/friend, check it out and research it for yourself!
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^ Well we definitely believe you (and them) that opiates are detectable in their tests. And I absolutely agree their single test was probably correct.
The whole point though is that there are 3 different types of these pills, and each HAS a different chemical makeup. I took one with opiates, so whether or not the other ones are cleaner MDMA/MDA pills has no effect on me - the ones going around my community are making people itch and throw up like crazy, so those are the ones I'm concerned about, and the ones I will continue to warn about.
The whole point though is that there are 3 different types of these pills, and each HAS a different chemical makeup. I took one with opiates, so whether or not the other ones are cleaner MDMA/MDA pills has no effect on me - the ones going around my community are making people itch and throw up like crazy, so those are the ones I'm concerned about, and the ones I will continue to warn about.
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maxX
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i believe the white w/blue specks has opiates.
By judging at the picture on e-data, they tested for type B, white w/no specks.
By judging at the picture on e-data, they tested for type B, white w/no specks.
Ekstasis-//7
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Oh fuck...
This crazy debate continues! 8) 8) 8)
IMO...
1) If you are so concerned about this pill and they are in your area send one in and have it GC/MS tested by ecstacydata.org!!!
2) Please stop crying "wolf"... by all means warn your friends and people you meet if in fact you have tryed this pill and had strange or adverse effects. Cheap and nasty adulterants are common in pills today (like caffein tested in the K cube. Did you consider the strange effects could be from caffeine in combo with the strong effects of MDMA+MDA??). Anyway until a GC/MS (or at the very least a simple reagent test) comes back positive saying these have opiates in them is a bit rediculous.
This crazy debate continues! 8) 8) 8)
IMO...
1) If you are so concerned about this pill and they are in your area send one in and have it GC/MS tested by ecstacydata.org!!!
2) Please stop crying "wolf"... by all means warn your friends and people you meet if in fact you have tryed this pill and had strange or adverse effects. Cheap and nasty adulterants are common in pills today (like caffein tested in the K cube. Did you consider the strange effects could be from caffeine in combo with the strong effects of MDMA+MDA??). Anyway until a GC/MS (or at the very least a simple reagent test) comes back positive saying these have opiates in them is a bit rediculous.
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If what you're saying is true about the test kit results picking up nothing and yet the person having getting those effects it makes for a very interesting (although very dodgy and unsafe) pill. Someone who has access to these K Cubes (white with blue specs) please send one of these in and lets see if there is any weird shit in it.
Last I checked Marquis is supposed to come up pink to purple (or another source says red to purple) for opiates (and that's a much lighter, and pinky shade of purple that isn't like a MDxx reaction from what I've read). Sorry man but those test results make me think it's even LESS likely to contain opiates and I already thought it was very, very unlikely. There are just way, too many factors pointing against the likely hood of these containing opiates. Unless you either get these GC-MS tested (or at least get a positive reagent test) I don't see how you can be justified saying that they contain opiates.
If you wanted the scources for a marquis test kit reactions to opiates it's here... http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq_testing_kits.shtml and http://www.chemicalsolutions.com.au click 'chemical' then 'opiates'
Last I checked Marquis is supposed to come up pink to purple (or another source says red to purple) for opiates (and that's a much lighter, and pinky shade of purple that isn't like a MDxx reaction from what I've read). Sorry man but those test results make me think it's even LESS likely to contain opiates and I already thought it was very, very unlikely. There are just way, too many factors pointing against the likely hood of these containing opiates. Unless you either get these GC-MS tested (or at least get a positive reagent test) I don't see how you can be justified saying that they contain opiates.
If you wanted the scources for a marquis test kit reactions to opiates it's here... http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq_testing_kits.shtml and http://www.chemicalsolutions.com.au click 'chemical' then 'opiates'
vicodin then ex?
hello friends... Well today me and a few buddys snorted a few lines of vicodin! God it fealt good, well my main question is would it be safe to roll tonight? and for that matter, if tonight isnt safe what about tomarrow night or friday? J/w the risk of being dead
hello friends... Well today me and a few buddys snorted a few lines of vicodin! God it fealt good, well my main question is would it be safe to roll tonight? and for that matter, if tonight isnt safe what about tomarrow night or friday? J/w the risk of being dead
Jewfolife16
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yah its safe.
davidj80222
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i think it interfears with the roll
Jewfolife16
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it would totally interfere cos youd be numb... mixing with ecstasys uber-intense physical sensats .... you wouldnt get much out of it, but it is safe.
OneBigTrip
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pop a bean, puff an l, pop a roll, your in control
Narcotic_Thrust
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Why the hell in your right mind would you snort vicodin??? do you know how much tylenol and fillers are in there compared to the actual hydrocodone? just plain stupid imo just swallow em next time
dankstersauce
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Re: vicodin then ex?
please do yourself a favor and dont snort vicoden. it doesnt get u any higher than eatain them and it burns like a mother fucker.
your just snorting alot of tylenol...but whatever floats ur boat.
but your fine to roll with this combo, but if iwere u i'd save the vicoden for the mdma comedown. i think vicoden is one of my favorites to bring me back to reality esp after speedy/cracked out pills
Shifty486 said:hello friends... Well today me and a few buddys snorted a few lines of vicodin! God it fealt good, well my main question is would it be safe to roll tonight? and for that matter, if tonight isnt safe what about tomarrow night or friday? J/w the risk of being dead
please do yourself a favor and dont snort vicoden. it doesnt get u any higher than eatain them and it burns like a mother fucker.
your just snorting alot of tylenol...but whatever floats ur boat.
but your fine to roll with this combo, but if iwere u i'd save the vicoden for the mdma comedown. i think vicoden is one of my favorites to bring me back to reality esp after speedy/cracked out pills