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[Mega] Opioids (codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, heroin, etc.) and Ecstasy

aren't the opiate and the ecstacy high kinda contraproductive?
I never mixed these but I think I read something like that in a thread about injecting mdma
 
^ It would almost certainly turn up as morphine. It is also slightly dangerous. I wouldn't worry much, but I wouldn't take opiates and MDMA at the same time, if I didn't have to.
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Because they're both serotinergic?

Extra caution should be taken mixing mdma with the synthetic opioids like meperidine demerol and fentanyl. Greater risk of serotonin syndrome problems.
 
Bottom line though,
The high sucks with these pills.
It is not the feeling you are looking for when you want to roll.
They kick your ass so hard that you are just incapable of doing anything active.

Ecstasy or no ecstacy these pills fucking blow (IMO)
 
TheDrugStore said:

They kick your ass so hard that you are just incapable of doing anything active.
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You just perfectly described what happens with WAAAAAY too much pure MDMA. That's how I felt the two times I overdid it with really good crystals. I'm talking 500mg+.
 
the "smackiness" is more to do with your brain being overloaded with seratonin, and not being able to process it, more than people being used to having meth in their pills. And sprinklervibes, consider what you're just said, they manufacturers can get opiates cheap, that means they'd get MDMA even cheaper wouldn't they???
 
swifty said:
the "smackiness" is more to do with your brain being overloaded with seratonin, and not being able to process it, more than people being used to having meth in their pills. And sprinklervibes, consider what you're just said, they manufacturers can get opiates cheap, that means they'd get MDMA even cheaper wouldn't they???
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dope is a hellavua lot cheaper than mdma bought in quantity and in single dose.
 
B240C said:
dope is a hellavua lot cheaper than mdma bought in quantity and in single dose.
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Then why aren't there more pills sold with heroin as their main ingredient???
 
swifty said:
Then why aren't there more pills sold with heroin as their main ingredient???
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I would say maybe because it is not what people (e-tards;) ) wants, as we all know the word of mouth travls fast and no one I know would want to buy beans which possibly cointaned smack...unless they are junkies
 
Heroin and opiates don't get put in pills, because they just aren't financially viable. full stop!
 
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yes americans who aren't used to good pills , waiting for that excessive (meth-induced) induced energy to kick in , a good dose of mdma will make someone nod with his pupils dialated.
 
swifty said:
Heroin and opiates don't get put in pills, because they just aren't financially viable. full stop!
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pfff, how would you know? Heroin is produced from a plant. Mdma has to be synthetisized from many chemicals with the starting point being saffrole oil, which is much harder to obtain than poppy's... It requires chemists with an education. Heroin and opiates are created by poor farmers in asia and 3rd world countries from other continents.
The main reason IMHO is that the effect they'd give would just suck and therefore they wouldn't sell(+many people afraid of opiates). All the other ingredients in E are usually well thought trough considering synergy's, length of effect, etc..

full stop 8(
 
Its no question that these pills conain some sort of opiate. The myth that pills are sometimes cut with opiates is generally a myth, but there are just too many people out there who have tried these that are saying they're odd. It may not be economically beneficial for most people to be cutting pills with opiates, but i'm pretty sure this batch is tainted.
 
Maybe if it's something like methadone ít works cuz you need a low dose but to kick someone ass with something like morfine is pretty pointless since it's worth a lot more when made into heroin which is pretty easy too.

but I doubt it , try taking half of one of those pills , if it's an opiate it will probably not be strong and if its mdm* it will still be normal but not dopey .
 
I have taken the White W/ Blue Specks type twice now.

I am 100% positive it contains some sort of opiate at a moderately/high dose. My guess has been Morphine since they came out, and I'd estimate somewhere between 50-70 mg. This is total speculation on the details, but at least one type of these K-Cube pills *DO* contain an opiate.

I felt absolutely no MDMA effects, but people who took the same pill said they did - and they are experienced.

It's a really strange situation with these pills.


P.s. I dont know which version of the pill Ecstasydata tested, but someone said it was the same one I took. But Im so positive of an opiate presence that I would go so far as to say E-data is fully incorrect if their tests really showed nothing besides mdma/mda. But I've never known them to be mistaken, and I'm pretty sure it was a 'different' pill they must have tested.
 
P.s. I dont know which version of the pill Ecstasydata tested, but someone said it was the same one I took. But Im so positive of an opiate presence that I would go so far as to say E-data is fully incorrect if their tests really showed nothing besides mdma/mda. But I've never known them to be mistaken, and I'm pretty sure it was a 'different' pill they must have tested.
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Submit one, if it contains an opiate i'll refund your submission fee.
 
Haven't seen one in weeks.

All Im saying is im extremely experienced with both MDMA and opiates (of every type... differentiating between the various opiates has been fairly easy for years now..), and Im absolutely positive what I took was opiate. And im 90% it was Morphine.

Despite the factors that seem to work against this claim (such as cost of production of pill), I'm certain im correct. I really, really wouldnt be posting if there was ANY doubt in my mind.

Which is why I still believe there are multiple "types" of even the same press - a bunch of So-Cal heads that are pretty knowledgeable claimed they felt a slight rolling sensation.
 
People can argue that it felt opiated all they want (they can even tell me pill testing sites are wrong), but until I see a definite report that a large batch of pills out there contain an opiate, I'm going with the 'no opiates in E pills' myth rebuttal.

PS My mrs works for the UK poisons unit and she's never seen any analysis reports of pills containing opiates - all manner of weird shit, but no opiates
 
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