Open Discussion [MEGA] Mobile version of Bluelight?

Oh ok. I think I might be in the mode where I don't record cookies.
For reasons of snooping, ie, girlfriend.
 
Rather than customised apps for iPhone, Android, etc I think the best direction would be to improve the existing mobile skin. Currently it's more of a WAP skin and should be updated to reflect the growing number of people with smartphones.
 
Tapatalk for Mobile Bluelight

Why isn't bluelight supported by the Tapatalk client? Seems like every shite little message board is supported except this one. Could one of the smods/admins please visit the site, download and activate the fourm plugin and hit this thread back with a thumbs up. And if possible, could you get Damien to do it.. while cross-dressing with a traveling dance troupe live on his stick.am? If you can't set the whole damien thing up I understand.. just please.. tapatalk.. plugin.. install.. thanks
 
Why not just go into mobile skin when trying to view the site.. That's what I do when I'm on Bluelight on my iPhone
 
Swerlz said:
Why not just go into mobile skin when trying to view the site.. That's what I do when I'm on Bluelight on my iPhone
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I see you havent tried Tapatalk, bro. Take a minute and check it out, massively superior to the image-less bluelight mobile skin. Eh, too lazy, just gonna spam the promo materials

Tapatalk is a mobile forum app for iPhone, Android, BlackBerry and Nokia. Tapatalk supports vBulletin, phpBB, IPB and SMF forums and forum owner can activate this service for free. Tapatalk supports all the usual forum functions plus full screen image viewing, image upload, caching (less reload), private messaging, all these features are accessible in just a few simple taps.

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Check out http://www.tapatalk.com for more information!
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Actually,

the concept was raised in SEP - mobile version of BL?

And before that in FEB - TapaTalk!


(mods may wanna do some merge action.....just thinking out loud)





But back on topic, I'd stick by this for now:

hoptis said:
Rather than customised apps for iPhone, Android, etc I think the best direction would be to improve the existing mobile skin. Currently it's more of a WAP skin and should be updated to reflect the growing number of people with smartphones.
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And note we're (still) planning to upgrade the site in the future, including addressing our mobile access/skin. While that it pretty far out (timewise), tapatalk was raised for discussion in our admin forum for a bit, and put as a 'not now' type of thing behind the upgrades. And we mostly agreed with addressing our mobile skin as a benefit for all mobile users being our preferred first step.









ftr, when we get past the upgrade, and into addressing our mobile access, I have personal hopes and wishes of getting a LOT of our members on various devices and in various locations to help us get the best solution overall. In other words, don't give up....just know it'll be awhile before we can address it - and >then< the door is open ;)
 
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Wow this was raised twice before.. all the way back to February and still nothing? Someone is dragging their feet HARD back there (vBulletin 3.7.4 STILL?) Installing plugins on the board is dead simple and would take 20 minutes for someone atleast as competent as me (which i hope is most of the bl staff)...so i'm going to have to assume the hold-up is bureaucratic in nature. But serious come the fuck on you guys take in a little under ~20k unique visitors a day .. MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN
 
*Mergidy merge merge* *waves magic BL wand*

Chainsawr, its nothing to do with bureacratic stuff, its that we have many other things to do, and we are going to run a prune first so that when we do upgrade it happens faster and smoother.
 
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This is what you get when you search for bluelight in Tapatalk. Bluelight via. Tapatalk would be a great tool for people who need. harm reduction information on the go.. but instead they are stuck with the house of blues lights fourm gourmet :/ so fizzle is there a timetable or estimate as to when this upgrade may-or-maynot happen? Additional information will be appreciated. Thanks
 
chainsawr said:
This is what you get when you search for bluelight in Tapatalk. Bluelight via. Tapatalk would be a great tool for people who need. harm reduction information on the go.. but instead they are stuck with the house of blues lights fourm gourmet :/ so fizzle is there a timetable or estimate as to when this upgrade may-or-maynot happen? Additional information will be appreciated. Thanks
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Its in the works. Believe me, we arent just sitting here twirling our thumbs, we are doing what we can to keep this place going. Have you donated? Because thats a much bigger issue right now than creating the mobile stuff, because without donations there isnt even going to be a BL to create a mobile version of.

We are in the process of a prune right now, which you may have noticed with my thread. Mods are going through their forums right now looking for threads to keep, and members are highly encouraged to help. Once thats done, we'll be able to do the upgrade, but a prune can take weeks. I dont know if you've seen the stats, but Threads: 181,810, Posts: 4,243,333, thats a lot to go through, so this isnt a small task, and I promise you we are doing the best we can as fast as we can. You have to remember we are all just volunteers here and we do have real lives outside of BL.

I'm sorry I cant give you a more concrete time-line, but I hope that helps to answer your question.
 
read: don't hold your breath. :D
fizzle said:
We are in the process of a prune right now, which you may have noticed with my thread. Mods are going through their forums right now looking for threads to keep, and members are highly encouraged to help. Once thats done, we'll be able to do the upgrade, but a prune can take weeks. I dont know if you've seen the stats, but Threads: 181,810, Posts: 4,243,333, thats a lot to go through, so this isnt a small task, and I promise you we are doing the best we can as fast as we can. You have to remember we are all just volunteers here and we do have real lives outside of BL.

I'm sorry I cant give you a more concrete time-line, but I hope that helps to answer your question.
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lol... I hadn't realised that you had to read through them one-by-one. 8)

No offence, but I don't recall a prune EVER being that much work - irrespective of the number of posts.

Announcement goes up, people bump what they want to keep, deadline comes, and an admin sets a series of cut-off dates from the admin control panel. Prune complete.

http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/threads_prune

Fact is, any implementation on Bluelight works on a geological time scale. That's just the way it is. The process is just painfully slow. I'm not quite sure why, given that other sites manage with volunteers and equal (or less) funding.

I think it's a combination of bureaucracy (being sensitive to avoid the C22 history) and the fact that there's a limited pool of transient volunteers who are comfortable (and trusted) to tweak with the back end of the site.

Any idea has to be suggested at least twice, then discussed to death, then bumped and discussed again, bounced around multiple forums and then a decision might be made... until it's realised that nobody has the time or technical skill to do anything about it. :D

Hahaha! <3
 
tambourine-man said:
Fact is, any implementation on Bluelight works on a geological time scale. That's just the way it is. The process is just painfully slow. I'm not quite sure why, given that other sites manage with volunteers and equal (or less) funding. . .I think it's a combination of bureaucracy (being sensitive to avoid the C22 history) and the fact that there's a limited pool of transient volunteers who are comfortable (and trusted) to tweak with the back end of the site
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I've noticed much more downtime on some sites that are more apt to tweak their backends. Installation of plugins can mean multiple instances of downtime to get them working, sometimes there is much effort only to realize that they don't offer the sought after functionality. As far as having a small pool of people entrusted to really work on the server and software that really makes sense to me given that Bluelights data is a little more sensitive than many other forums. People on a board dealing with chess or television shows have far less concerns about their data than members do on a site like BL.

Slow and cautious can be a good thing at times. Many people are reporting BL is working fine on their phones without Tapatalk. http://androidforums.com/site-updates-announcements/122121-tapatalk-support-has-been-pulled.html Forums have had security issues with tapatalk. Adding the plugin and just hoping it is neither a problem for BL security or member security and privacy does not seem like a necessarily good thing to do. A glacial pace can have the effect of helping to evade many problems that early adopters get. The people who wait for later releases of software (wait at least til after SP1 kind of stuff) can end up saving themselves a lot of grief.
 
Oh, I quite agree re: early adopting.

I'm permanently behind the curve in this respect where tech buying at home is concerned. I totally see the value in waiting for others to make the mistakes and reap the benefit of their collective misery. :D

I just don't think BL moves at this pace because of design, more by managerial default.
Enki said:
As far as having a small pool of people entrusted to really work on the server and software that really makes sense to me given that Bluelights data is a little more sensitive than many other forums. People on a board dealing with chess or television shows have far less concerns about their data than members do on a site like BL.
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Don't quite agree with that. Sounds good in principle, but because Bluelight doesn't have a technologically-competent - or willing - single owner to drive the site like many others websites have, the result is a reliance on a transient pool of admins and (what used to be called) engineers (although those roles have blurred). I reckon you're looking at at least 40 individuals who've been entrusted with that role over the years, with maybe 20% of those having full back end server access?

Not that I don't appreciate some of the benefits that this brings, but the first rule of data security is to reduce the number of people who have access.

Perhaps when the ownership and organisational status of the site is streamlined and this distributed power base loses some of its vertical lag, some of that glacial pace will dissipate?
 
I've been thinking about your points tambourine-man. A community steered by one or two tech-savvy, expedience minded individuals would seem to have an entirely different set of problems by my speculation.

A)The community would be made "in their image" suiting some people but not others.
B)Retirement or inactivity by the expedient individuals would be life threatening crises for the community.
C) For a certain size of community the expedient individuals would be putting more time than other people do on careers. With that level of commitment above and beyond any other members the glorious leaders would justifiable become uninterested in feedback from the community because it would be entirely their show.
 
chainsawr said:
Can i stop holding my breathe now??
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When I read through this whole thread from the beginning I get the impression that:

A)No commitment has been made to tapatalk or any particular means of making BL more mobile accessible. When the time comes it will likely be skin compatible with multiple smart phones (Hoptis)
B)Such things aren't under consideration until after the prune which is still going on (fizzle)
 
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