Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

[HighonLife]

yea i have lanced pods that were pulled off the stem and they barely produced any latex if any.
not sure why this is but i think about it as if someone killed me then waited a bit and cut me i dunno if i'd bleed much cuz im dead and the reg body/plant functions dont continue going when one dies. so thats my thoery on why pods that have been picked dont bleed much

anyways i do agree with wunchow and just pick the pods and maybe the top part of the stem and then eat them whole/ground, or make tea, or soak in alcohol and evaporate.

you def dont want anyone seein you scorin live pods, and honestly your grandparents bein 'disappointed' is the least of your worries if they are in open sight so be careful, be safe, and yea prob just quickly pull of the pods and you will be done harvesting in seconds and it is doubtful anyone will know what you are doing

 

[Stinknan]

Thanks for the info, poppy tea it is then.

Previous experiences have been with dried pods, which were sucessful. Fresh pods tended to produce a far gooier brew which played havoc on my bowels.

I will lance the pods when I get back and see if they bleed. If not, it kind of confirms that if you cut them, the buggers dont bleed.....

 

[johanneschimpo]

That doesn't sound realistic, especially since you're just pruning the flowers around your grandparents house and you don't even know what P. Somniferum is.

I like the way you think.

 

[doppelganga196]

Thanks for the info, poppy tea it is then.

Previous experiences have been with dried pods, which were sucessful. Fresh pods tended to produce a far gooier brew which played havoc on my bowels.

I will lance the pods when I get back and see if they bleed. If not, it kind of confirms that if you cut them, the buggers dont bleed.....

Hey Stinknan, how are ya? Seems we're in a similar boat at the mo! I just last night crept into a public park which is overlooked by dozens of windows, to pluck dozens of pods. Slicing for opium just isn't really worth it unless you literally have HUNDREDS of pods, anyways these pods are pretty low in morphine & i've been blending 25 fresh pods which i then steep & strain with lemon/lime juice & i've been getting good relief for my back probs & some pretty good sedation, but contrarily some fair stimulation (thebaine?) I'm jabbering but damn, i'd love to hear from ya on your tea methods/experiences. We are fellow brits afterall! & yes it is some gooey shit! Try a glass of ginger beer afterwards--really helps the nausea!!

 

[PinK~cloud]

Hey Stinknan, how are ya? Seems we're in a similar boat at the mo! I just last night crept into a public park which is overlooked by dozens of windows, to pluck dozens of pods. Slicing for opium just isn't really worth it unless you literally have HUNDREDS of pods, anyways these pods are pretty low in morphine & i've been blending 25 fresh pods which i then steep & strain with lemon/lime juice & i've been getting good relief for my back probs & some pretty good sedation, but contrarily some fair stimulation (thebaine?) I'm jabbering but damn, i'd love to hear from ya on your tea methods/experiences. We are fellow brits afterall! & yes it is some gooey shit! Try a glass of ginger beer afterwards--really helps the nausea!!

i can just see some old decrepit man with bad back problems hobbling into the park at night to harvest some flowers for 'pain management.'

maybe you should just seek doctor relief?

 

[Tchort]

Please read the article, "Opium Made Easy' by Michael Pollan. Here is the beginning paragraph and a link to it in full:

One gardener's encounter with the war on drugs




Last season was a strange one in my garden, notable not only for the unseasonably cool and wet weather - the talk of gardeners all for its climate of paranoia. One flower was the cause: a tall, breathtaking poppy, with silky scarlet petals and a black heart, the growing of which, I discovered rather too late, is a felony under state and federal law. Actually, it's not quite as simple as that. My poppies were, or became, felonious; another gardener's might or might not be. The legality of growing opium poppies (whose seeds are sold under many names, including the breadseed poppy, Papaver paeoniflorum, and, most significantly, Papaver somniferum) is a tangled issue, turning on questions of nomenclature and epistemology that it took me the better part of the summer to sort out. But before I try to explain, let me offer a friendly warning to any gardeners who might wish to continue growing this spectacular annual: the less you know about it, the better off you are, in legal if not horticultural terms. Because whether or not the opium poppies in your garden are illicit depends not on what you do, or even intend to do, with them but very simply on what you know about them. Hence my warning: if you have any desire to grow opium poppies, you would be wise to stop reading right now.

As for me, I'm afraid that, at least in the eyes of the law, I'm already lost, having now tasted of the forbidden fruit of poppy knowledge. Indeed, the more I learned about poppies, the guiltier my poppies became - and the more fearful grew my days and to some extent also my nights. Until the day last fall, that is, when I finally pulled out my poppies' withered stalks and, with a tremendous feeling of relief, threw them on the compost, thereby (I hope) rejoining the ranks of gardeners who don't worry about visits from the police.

http://www.wesjones.com/pollan1.htm

You are asking us to assist you in breaking US law, how to cover up manufacture of a CII substance. It is the equivalent of asking us how to cook speed- as tampering with P.Somniferum poppies to get at the alkaloids inside is legally the same.

 

[Stinknan]

Hey Stinknan, how are ya? Seems we're in a similar boat at the mo! I just last night crept into a public park which is overlooked by dozens of windows, to pluck dozens of pods. Slicing for opium just isn't really worth it unless you literally have HUNDREDS of pods, anyways these pods are pretty low in morphine & i've been blending 25 fresh pods which i then steep & strain with lemon/lime juice & i've been getting good relief for my back probs & some pretty good sedation, but contrarily some fair stimulation (thebaine?) I'm jabbering but damn, i'd love to hear from ya on your tea methods/experiences. We are fellow brits afterall! & yes it is some gooey shit! Try a glass of ginger beer afterwards--really helps the nausea!!

Hello mate

Nice to hear from you. Glad to hear it is not just myself going on clandestine poppy raids. My mate and I were in fits on one last year.

For the last few years I have experimented with scattering a mixture of hens and chicks, P. Gigathemum and persian blue in suitable public places, eg, not obvious. The idea was if I can grow enough, I will be able to harvest a worthwhile piece of opium. They are indeed particular about where they grow but where they do, they do alright.
Last year I managed to harvest quite a few - Not all had reached maturity, but they made a fine brew, much better than dried pods in terms of potency, shame about the extra chlorophyl and fats.

So what kind of poppies were growing in the park?Sorry to hear about your back. What happened to it fella?

 

[Stinknan]

Erm, guess the above post is even worse.I was a long time editing. Sorry, excuse my ignorance of the rules.
I decided not to bother going ahead and have left the plant as it is. Perfectly nice as an ornamental.

 

[doppelganga196]

i can just see some old decrepit man with bad back problems hobbling into the park at night to harvest some flowers for 'pain management.'

maybe you should just seek doctor relief?

Goddamn, listen to this one!! Okay whore face u r to wrong 2 even correct n don't try n give advice huh, u just sound arrogant.

 

[Stinknan]

i can just see some old decrepit man with bad back problems hobbling into the park at night to harvest some flowers for 'pain management.'

maybe you should just seek doctor relief?

Maybe he has decided he wants to self medicate with a natural alternative to whatever pharm his GP might prescribe?

Wouldn't worry about it Doppel....

 

[doppelganga196]

Hello mate

Nice to hear from you. Glad to hear it is not just myself going on clandestine poppy raids. My mate and I were in fits on one last year.

For the last few years I have experimented with scattering a mixture of hens and chicks, P. Gigathemum and persian blue in suitable public places, eg, not obvious. The idea was if I can grow enough, I will be able to harvest a worthwhile piece of opium. They are indeed particular about where they grow but where they do, they do alright.
Last year I managed to harvest quite a few - Not all had reached maturity, but they made a fine brew, much better than dried pods in terms of potency, shame about the extra chlorophyl and fats.

So what kind of poppies were growing in the park?Sorry to hear about your back. What happened to it fella?

Ah dont be sorry, pinched a nerve swimming last year & its gradually got worse when walking 4 extended periods. But my main interest is recreation ; )

U believe the rudeness here? (pink cloud) I'm actually 21 & i have seen a doc who gives me co-dydramol (10mg dihydrocodeine/500mg apap) & physical therapy, however a little atavistic alchemy is called 4 in these summer months, when morphine basically does grow on trees! Stnknan I'd like 2 hear you fresh pod T method if u would. It can't hurt to try out new ways 2 brew! Thanks edit-- oh i really dont know the exact variety, some have flowered pink, some purple. none as good as the oriental pods i had back in 2006, five of them had me near slobbering on the sofa! Good times

 

[QuasiStoned]

^^^
No more dangerous than eating dry poppies. Nausea is the biggest threat I guess.

 

[doppelganga196]

damn that must be like eating ope flavoured broccoli! Just make sure no cats pissed on them!

 

[QuasiStoned]

^^^
Hey man I obtain dried poppies on the regular to help control my pain, there's nothing wrong with it. If the doctors offered reasonable pain meds to young guys like us we wouldn't be bothered doing this shit.

I enjoy the recreational effects too, I'd be lying if I said I use them purely for pain, but meh. Wish I lived in london where morphine grows on trees! Never seen any fresh poppies in Pennsylvania.

 

[Opiated Mind]

What type(s) of Poppy Pod do you Prefer?

Howdy guys. I tried out a couple dozen monster pods that I bought online last week. Long story short I was pretty impressed (despite my high tolerance coming into it) and am going to order more tomorrow. This time around I'd like some opinions though on the actual types of pods themselves. I have the choice of ordering Turkish (small pods), Tasmanian medium-sized, Ovalies (I guess Dutch Ovals?) and Large & XXL Gigantheums. Now I believe that the "monster" pods I obtained before were the Large/XL Gigantheums. I kind of want to try another type this time around. I've read that the Ovalies/Dutch Oval pods are very popular. I was thinking of going with a case of them or trying out the mediums.

So, my first question is...

What types do you guys prefer and in what order do you prefer them in? Reasons as to why you prefer them would be good too. =)

As for my last question...

I can get a case of Large Gigantheums OR a case of Ovalies for the same price at the same quantity. I can also get a case of Medium pods that has 10 more than the other two for $68 less. In your guy's opinion which one is the best buy for the buck? I think it comes down to the Large Gigantheums and the Ovalies.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions on these two questions I have. %)

 

[Stinknan]

^^^
Hey man I obtain dried poppies on the regular to help control my pain, there's nothing wrong with it. If the doctors offered reasonable pain meds to young guys like us we wouldn't be bothered doing this shit.

Couldnt agree more. I broke my zygomatic arch 12 years ago ( my cheek and jaw bone). It was nasty, I remember my jaw was hanging loose on the left side of my face. Anyway, as I have progressed through puberty, one side of my face didnt grow properly = constant nerve pain.

I have been prescribed diazepam previously, and I am currently taking Pregabalin but if I brew some poppy tea, it brings much more analgesia than either of those.

Sadly P.Somniferum do not grow freely here much, you have to plant them yourself Nice thought though

 

[QuasiStoned]

^^^
You would need a very high thebaine content to get seizures, probably pretty unlikely.

In my 3 years of pod exploration, I have found 3 different type of pods.

Bad Batch - The first kind I got only once, and they made me violently ill everytime I ingested more than 1 poppy. They seemed to contain some morphine, but I threw up before I could digest any of the liquid really. I think these must have been sprayed with something toxic because I NEVER throw up from poppy tea. I threw this batch out and had a nasty withdrawal that I was completely unprepared for.

Moderate Batch - These guys seem to be the most common and I have obtained them from several vendors. The poppies tend to be mostly light colored. The tea they produce from 1/2 cup of grounds is usually light colored, almost clear enough to see through. The tea is not very bitter, and the high was strange. There was a pronounced opiate effect, but there seemed to be some side effects that had to be endured. I would usually feel an uncomfortable alertness, sometimes some slight muscle tension. I obtained these most commonly.

Good Batch - These poppies are light and dark colored, but the color of the poppy isn't whats important. 1/2 cup of grounds would brew into a very dark tea, like coffee dark, and the flavor would be very very bitter. The high is fantastic, they feel like straight morphine and seem to be nearly 2x as potent as the pods that I usually run into. I have found a source for these at the moment, they use to be the large sized ones but now only the medium sizes pods seem to yield such a dark satisfying tea.

Tsukasa, yours sound to me like the 2nd pod type I have encountered. I remember back in the good ol' days (before habituation had reared its ugly face) I would occasionally drink a fair amount of tea and feel great from the morphine, but I had a slight discomfort over top and more than once I had to lay down and relax. I believed this to be the effect of some of the undesirable alkaloids. My theory was that I was feeling noscapine (sigma ligand) because the feeling reminded me of DXM (also sigma ligand), the way my muscles would tighten and I felt extremely alert.

 

[QuasiStoned]

Regarding poppy pod crowns again:

Does anyone know anything about possible toxicity of the crowns? Anything bad in them? High concentrations of undesirable alkaloids maybe? They are a particularly different part of the pod so it's likely they have a different chemical profile from the rest of the plant.

I just tried a brew of pure crown grounds, the taste is exceptionally different from the shell flesh, still bitter but very tasty compared to the shell flesh or stem/nubs. A strong vanilla flavor. They seem to have some degree of potency, I think more so than the stem/nubs. But I've only just started testing the crown brew.


re.>>The Idler
Yeah I was afraid of that. Was hoping they might be some sort of special high concentration part of the pod or something.

Let us know how that works out. I have always left the crown on my pods because I never found an easy way to remove them without getting sharp crown cuts or bits stuck underneath my fingernails... ouch!!

 

[Lupus]

Who you're buying from is usually much more important than what someone describes their product as being.

 

[Lupus]

People who have a long term dependence on the pods seem to gravitate towards eating them because it requires less for a maintenance dose. The way i've always heard it being done is to eat the grounds mixed with some yogurt.